The (Ugh!) Baywatch

[batmagadanleadoff]

Mets skipper Terry Collins: We need Jason Bay's bat in the lineup

Jason Bay and his .184 batting average will return to the Mets lineup as soon as possible, which may be right after the All-Star break. "When he comes back, we will insert him in the lineup," Terry Collins said. "We need his bat in the lineup. We hope when he gets back he's ready to play." Collins is expecting Bay to start playing games in Port St. Lucie on Sunday, after participating in drills for a couple of days. The plan is for Bay to then move to Triple-A Buffalo "for a few games and then come back (to the Mets)," Collins said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets

Sarcastic comments are welcome.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

"When he comes back, we will insert him in the lineup," Terry Collins said. "We need his bat in the lineup."

"Nobody makes Nickeas and Turner look relatively-dangerous like Jason does."

[Fman99]

"We need his bat, the way ordinary Mets fans need burns from touching the inside of their toasters, or perhaps prison rape."

[Frayed Knot]

If Bay's return keeps Nieuwenhuis off the field against LHPs [.167/.275/.217], sits Duda every once in a while vs the same [.217/.270/.311], and reduces Terry's once-a-week or so temptation to put Turner on 1B, then maybe it's not such a bad thing.

[bmfc1]

Nieuwenhuis needs to go back to AAA to play everyday and try to cut down on his Adam Dunn-like strikeout numbers. Bay's return sets this up and could possibly help the team against LHP.

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Nieuwenhuis needs to go back to AAA to play everyday and try to cut down on his Adam Dunn-like strikeout numbers. Bay's return sets this up and could possibly help the team against LHP.

Bay had a 900+ OPS against lefties last year. I think the concussion and multiple injuries are the perfect reason to slide him into something closer approximating a platoon role. of course.. I know we love what Hairston has done, but Terry has been using him too much against righties too. Bay's probably/maybe/could be better than that, although maybe you give Torres a couple of those starts.

Tejada
Turner
Wright
Hairston
Davis
Bay
Torres
Thole
Dickey

is probably pretty good against lefties. alternating in Murphy and Duda (and probably Nickeas) into that sometime.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Jason Bay's Met career #'s, prorated to 160 games.

AB 578
2B 27
3B 5
HR 15
RBI 73
BB 71
AVG. .246
OBP. .330
SLG. .385

[ashie62]

I fear we have seen Nieuwenhuis' ceiling.

Den Dekker next year.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Ashie62 wrote: I fear we have seen Nieuwenhuis' ceiling.

He's 24 years old.

[Frayed Knot]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ashie62 wrote: I fear we have seen Nieuwenhuis' ceiling. He's 24 years old.

And just three days older than Dekker.
But maybe that means we've seen Dekker's ceiling too.
Nimmo next year.

[Ceetar]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Jason Bay's Met career #'s, prorated to 160 games. AB 578 2B 27 3B 5 HR 15 RBI 73 BB 71 AVG. .246 OBP. .330 SLG. .385

gimme his lefty mashing numbers.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ceetar wrote: Jason Bay's Met career #'s, prorated to 160 games. AB 578 2B 27 3B 5 HR 15 RBI 73 BB 71 AVG. .246 OBP. .330 SLG. .385 gimme his lefty mashing numbers.

Jason Bay's Met career #'s against LHP, prorated to 578 AB's:

AB 578
2B 24
3B 3
HR 24
RBI 98
BB 114
AVG. .272
OBP. .392 (close estimate)
SLG. .441

[batmagadanleadoff]

Scott Hairston's 2012 #'s against LHP, prorated to 578 AB's:


AB 578
2B 39
3B 0
HR 50
RBI 116
BB 33
AVG. .295
OBP. .333
SLG. .619

[Edgy MD]

Ashie's the J. Jonah Jameson of the forum. "Clean out your office, you're FIRED! Wait, a minute... where do you think you're going?! Did I say fired? I didn't mean fired fired! The things people will do to get out of working around here."

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

That's not fair. J. Jonah Jameson had a thinly-veiled, ill-conceived agenda that he rarely gave a rest, and... um... Ashie's from Jersey.

[ashie62]

Exit 38!

[Vic Sage]

vs LHers:

ss - Ruben Tejada (.901)
2b - Ronny Cedeno (.852)
3b - David Wright (1.017)
Rf - Scott Hairston (.952)
Lf - Jason Bay (.776)
Cf - Andres Torres (.804)
1b - Daniel Murphy (.628) - he's better defensively at 1b than Turner, and equivalent offensively against LHers.
C - Josh Thole (.601) - Nickeas is just too dreadful a hitter to play even in a platoon.

Bench:
Justin Turner (.606)
Lucas Duda (.588)
Mike Nickeas (.541)
Ike Davis (.526)
Kirk Nieuwenhuis (.492)

[Theoldmole]

You have to hope they get to the lefty early.

[Edgy MD]

Bay still hasn't been officially activated, far as I can see.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Bay still hasn't been officially activated, far as I can see.

no notice in the game day notes either, where they usually say 'expected to be activated for tonight's game'

just this:

JASON BAY: Went 0-2 with two walks last night for Buffalo (AAA) of
the International League vs. Toledo...Bay played the entire game in
leftfield...Bay is 3-10 (.300) with two runs scored and four walks in three
rehabilitation games with the Bisons...Bay was 0-6 with two walks in two
rehabilitation games with St. Lucie (A) of the Florida State League...Bay
has been on the Disabled List after suffering a concussion on June 15.

[Ceetar]

And he's spotted with a bat! Twitter goes wild!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Somebody posted something to the UMDB today that matches something that I've noticed myself. Doesn't Jason Bay look thin (at least in his face) since his return? He looks almost frail. Or maybe like he's aged a decade or two. I don't know. Anyone else notice this?

[ashie62]

I thought the same about Ike a couple of months ago.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

He looks like he got a weird haircut.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Steroid withdrawal.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: He looks like he got a weird haircut.

Yes. Combed back on top, with a little flourish in the back. IOW, the Roland Orzabal.

[Edgy MD]

Part of the frailty of Bay may simply be that he was ordered to avoid heavy workouts during his convalescence, and he has some catching up to do.

Although there may not be enough time left in his career for him to catch up.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Part of the frailty of Bay may simply be that he was ordered to avoid heavy workouts during his convalescence, and he has some catching up to do. Although there may not be enough time left in his career for him to catch up.

Well, that probably has something to do about it. But we're way beyond the excuses part. The Mets are doing their due diligence. They're going to get play him regularly and give him a reasonable shot to actually hit he ball across a meaningful* sample.

But he might not make it back to New York.

[Edgy MD]

I didn't suggest any excuses. It was noted that he looked thinner, and I theorized why he might.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: I didn't suggest any excuses. It was noted that he looked thinner, and I theorized why he might.

What I meant was, we're way past needing to figure out reasons for it. They no longer matter.