The (Ugh!) Baywatch

[Edgy MD]

On Friday, it seemed to be an interesting enough topic.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: On Friday, it seemed to be an interesting enough topic.

I must've missed that one, or I would've chimed in then. My thoughts on Bay are that it doesn't matter what/who/why/how, he has to produce now or he's gone. I thought he was brought back too fast last time, and probably this time too, but it ultimately doesn't matter. He's had sooo many chances.

of course, if the Mets don't go on a real winning streak, the season will be effectively over and not just almost definitely over, so there might be little reason to cut him just for the sake of cutting him. It's not like any of the other outfielders besides Torres a bit, are deserving much playing time. It's only another month that he's eating a roster spot.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Heck, the two outfielders they just demoted had better stats than Bay.

[metirish]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Part of the frailty of Bay may simply be that he was ordered to avoid heavy workouts during his convalescence, and he has some catching up to do. Although there may not be enough time left in his career for him to catch up. Well, that probably has something to do about it. But we're way beyond the excuses part. The Mets are doing their due diligence. They're going to get play him regularly and give him a reasonable shot to actually hit he ball across a meaningful* sample. But he might not make it back to New York.

You think the Mets will cut him?

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think they will cut him, but not before spring training 2013.

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think they will cut him, but not before spring training 2013.

Has he amassed enough at bats for his 2013 contract to vest?
If not, wouldn't it make more sense to cut him now?
Or is there a golden parachute clause?

Later

[TransMonk]

Oh, there is no option for 2013. He is fully signed for next year.

The option is for 2014, but he is nowhere near on pace with his ABs for it to kick in...nor will the Mets allow him to get there next year if he is still on the roster.

2014 option guaranteed with 600 PAs in 2013 or 500 PAs in both 2012, 2013

[Ceetar]

MFS62 wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think they will cut him, but not before spring training 2013. Has he amassed enough at bats for his 2013 contract to vest? If not, wouldn't it make more sense to cut him now? Or is there a golden parachute clause? Later

vest is basically off the table. Would need 600 AB next year and even if he bounces back to Boston-Bay and stays healthy it probably won't get that.


I doubt he gets cut, since you're really only saving a month of a roster spot until rosters expand. I imagine though, if he goes hitless, or like 2/30 on the rest of this road trip, they might decide just to cut him. Probably needs to be correlated with like Duda hitting 8 HR for Buffalo or something.

Or, if the Mets go 10 for the next 12 and miraculously climb back in the race despite his struggles. Then you almost have to cut him because he hurts chances of winning the rest of the games needed to actually climb bck into the race. (Mets face the Braves on August 10th. They're 9 losses behind. If they made up significant ground that could be a d-Day point) Obviously their are other teams to climb over, but one of them is the Giants. Two others are the Reds and Nats(probably not the Nats) right after the Braves. If they're desperately making a push and need every last drop of offense..maybe they just dump him (or phantom-DL?)