IGT 7/6/2012 CHI @ NYM: Bring The Wood

[G-Fafif]

Johan has a little score to settle with that Travis dude.

[Centerfield]

We are going to sweep these worthless armadillo fuckers.

[TransMonk]

Centerfield wrote: We are going to sweep these worthless armadillo fuckers.

This is going to be my mantra of the weekend.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I got to touch a real armadillo a couple weeks ago. They had them on the Capitol lawn with a group from a nature center. Pretty cool.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

And we are apparently Los Mets tonight!

[ashie62]

Bad karma

[Edgy MD]

No. Bad karma is patriotic hats forced on us by MLB and Sunday nights on ESPN.

I just wish the Mets billed themselves as "Los Metros" in Spanish. "Los Mets" sounds dumb, though not as dumb as, say, "Los Suns." Let's work with an actual translation.

"Los Cowboys" = bad
"Los Vacqueros" = good

"Los Islanders" = bad
"Los Isle�os" = good

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

The Brewers or "Cerveceros" do it right.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Why do the Spanish heritage jerseys have to say "Los"? The American tops don't say "The" Mets.

[Edgy MD]

Spanish just kind of works that way. Nouns sort of almost have to have articles. English speakers say, "Family is important," but Spanish speakers say, "La familia es importante." (Mets fans say, "Don't trade Familia.")

Salute to the Brewers for doing it right.

[dinosaur jesus]

Spanish just kind of works that way. Nouns sort of almost have to have articles. English speakers say, "Family is important," but Spanish speakers say, "La familia es importante." (Mets fans say, "Don't trade Familia.") Salute to the Brewers for doing it right.

Yes, but Mexican League teams don't include the article, either on their jerseys or, I think, in their official names. Pericos de Puebla, for example:

[Edgy MD]

Good point. I guess we're just an uncreative and patronizing country that thinks we can solve all Spanish marketing problems with a definite article.



(The seemingly pointless but somehow necessary article thing is more common with abstract Spanish nouns like "La Paz" and "El Derecho" and "La Verdad.")

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: No. Bad karma is patriotic hats forced on us by MLB and Sunday nights on ESPN. I just wish the Mets billed themselves as "Los Metros" in Spanish. "Los Mets" sounds dumb, though not as dumb as, say, "Los Suns." Let's work with an actual translation. "Los Cowboys" = bad "Los Vacqueros" = good "Los Islanders" = bad "Los Isle�os" = good

but they are proper nouns. You wouldn't say Henry was Enrique when he's over the border. His given name is still Henry. You can't buy a Manzana iPod in Spain.

I think the entire concept of wearing a different jersey is silly anyway, but losmets.com seems cooler than like espa�ol.mets.com It's about creating a spanish presense of Mets. adding the article is a tiny part of a marketing presence towards spanish speaking fans.

[Edgy MD]

A lot of folks do go by a translated name in another country. A lot of products do as well.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: A lot of folks do go by a translated name in another country. A lot of products do as well.

'a lot'?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Good Humor ice cream around the world:



When I was in Europe two years ago, we noticed that the logo was the same in Spain, Portugal, and Gibraltar, but it had a different name. (Ola, Frigo, or Walls)

[Lefty Specialist]

GM famously ran into this problem in the '60's when they tried to sell the Chevy Nova in Mexico.

Of course, 'No va' translates to 'It doesn't go', which is a great name for a car.

[Edgy MD]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: A lot of folks do go by a translated name in another country. A lot of products do as well. 'a lot'?

Sure, many.

I've had Spanish-speaking folks calling me Eduardo and Irish folks call me Eamon. Folks in the country of the internet call me Edgy. It's all good.

Also, you know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?

[Edgy MD]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: A lot of folks do go by a translated name in another country. A lot of products do as well. 'a lot'?

Sure, many.

I've had Spanish-speaking folks calling me Eduardo and Irish folks call me Eamon. Folks in the country of the internet call me Edgy. It's all good.

Also, you know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Edgy DC wrote: A lot of folks do go by a translated name in another country. A lot of products do as well. 'a lot'? Sure, many. I've had Spanish-speaking folks calling me Eduardo and Irish folks call me Eamon. Folks in the country of the internet call me Edgy. It's all good. Also, you know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?

Sure, but that's not your name. When I was little, my mother got annoyed when people called me Mike. "That's not his name!" And it's not.


What do they call a Big Mac?

[Edgy MD]

You are what you call yourself.

If teams want to reframe their names in the cause of Latino outreach, I think it would be more poetic and meaningful and substantial and exciting for teams to market themselves under actual translations rather than misbegotten mixed constructions like "Los Red Sox." I see that you disagree.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: You are what you call yourself. If teams want to reframe their names in the cause of Latino outreach, I think it would be more poetic and meaningful and substantial and exciting for teams to market themselves under actual translations rather than misbegotten mixed constructions like "Los Red Sox."

Right, not what others call you.

I think it loses something in translation. The Islanders are not residents of an island. The Mets are not a densely populated city. The Cubs are not actually baby bears. It transcends language. They've built an identity attached to the one name.

[Edgy MD]

Yes, it's established that you disagree. You think it would be less meaningful. Got it.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Yes, it's established that you disagree. You think it would be less meaningful. Got it.

Yes, and I get that you disagree with me.

Meanwhile, Terry goes with the righty lineup, + Kirk.

#Mets Fri. lineup vs. Chicago: Tejada-SS, Cedeno-2B, Wright-3B, Hairston-LF, Duda-RF, Turner-1B, Nickeas-C, Nieuwenhuis-CF, Santana-LHP

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Turner at first base. Nobody tell Edgy. He gets all dyspeptic about this.

[Edgy MD]

OH DEAR MOTHER OF...![/bigpurple]

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Lefty Specialist wrote: GM famously ran into this problem in the '60's when they tried to sell the Chevy Nova in Mexico. Of course, 'No va' translates to 'It doesn't go', which is a great name for a car.

You've been Snopsed, baby!

[Lefty Specialist]

Mets � Willets Point wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: GM famously ran into this problem in the '60's when they tried to sell the Chevy Nova in Mexico. Of course, 'No va' translates to 'It doesn't go', which is a great name for a car. You've been Snopsed, baby!

Yes, but that fails to explain the poor sales of the Oldsmobile Pieceocrap.

[ashie62]

I had a Chevy Vega and an AMC Pacer..but a 63 Beetle that caught on fire with 463,000 miles.

THE CUBS SUCK!

[G-Fafif]

Let's get to settin' T. Wood on fire...

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