IGT, 7/4, NYM vs. PHI, The Fight for Freedom

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I would have been more more than okay with Hefner here in the 8th, with Byrdak for later, as necessary.

Or, y'know, three (or more) pitchers to get three. Whatevs.

Edited July 4, 2012 by Guest

[nymr83]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I would have been more more than okay with Hefner here in the 8th, with Byrdak for later, as necessary.

Well it looks like you'll get him... Along with Batista for ONE PITCH and Byrdak, 3 relievers used up in one inning and Terry is going to be fucked if this game goes long.

[Edgy MD]

Nymr83 wrote: I prefer an 11-man pitching staff to a 12, but part of having one is that you don't put Batista in to start the 8th down a run and then pull him after a leadoff single.

Batista should be the guy you use for the ninth last night, no?

Rauch last night and Hefner and Batista today. Some blessed day, Terry, it will be all clear. Either to you or to me.

[Guest Kong76]

Thus far, this gentleman from New York is wishing he
abstained from this game. Courteously.

[bmfc1]

Sandy--wake the hell up, stop bitching about the All-Start votes, and find at least two pitchers to replace these clowns.

[Lefty Specialist]

This bullpen is just killing this team. It's like Russian Roulette with no empty chambers.

[Edgy MD]

I don't think Sandy needs to find anybody. It remains, to my thinking, about more intelligently using the resources they've got.

They've had disappointing bullpens most of the past decade. The personnel have changed plenty. The philosophy is what's wanting.

[bmfc1]

Edgy: I agree with you on your main point--leave the starter in--but what would you have done differently today? Leave Young in to give up more homers? Shorty had to go to the bullpen and every single choice, other than Parnell and Byrdak, was bad.

[nymr83]

Edgy DC wrote: I don't think Sandy needs to find anybody. It remains, to my thinking, about more intelligently using the resources they've got. They've had disappointing bullpens most of the past decade. The personnel have changed plenty. The philosophy is what's wanting.

I don't think I've been happy with a Mets bullpen since the days of Turk Wendell and Dennis Cook. Still, this year is worse than many others in terms of performance.

The manager has also done a poor job utilizing the best guys in tied and 1-run games while utilizing the worse guys in games with bigger margins. That's been common in the last 10 years both for the Mets and league-wide I believe, but I at least feel its "caught up" to the Mets more this year.

[Guest themetfairy]

At least this shitstorm is finally over.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

So, um, is KRod still available?

[Fman99]

Just woke up from my nap and read the box score. Bad bullpen, bad!

[Edgy MD]

bmfc1 wrote: Edgy: I agree with you on your main point--leave the starter in--but what would you have done differently today? Leave Young in to give up more homers? Shorty had to go to the bullpen and every single choice, other than Parnell and Byrdak, was bad.

• Call up the Beato and send the Hefner down.
  
• Use the Batista last night instead of today.
  
• Use a better pitcher today. Perhaps Rauch, perhaps Beato. Perhaps Ramirez. Ramirez is available, right?
  
• One of those guys gets the job done, for reason's sake, let him pitch another inning!

If that fails, live with the results. (They were losing anyhow, and it's not like they came back.)

Also consider calling up Elvin Ramirez, Matt Harvey, Josh Edgin, Colin McHugh.

The answer is in hand, though.

[bmfc1]

Well, one step was just taken: Hefner was sent down.

[Edgy MD]

[bigpurple:3bjotlyv]Welcome to the forum, Sandy!

Day late, though![/bigpurple:3bjotlyv]

(Honestly, though, when Hef went out for the ninth, he must've known he was a sacrificial lamb and he was done for as soon as the game ended.)

[batmagadanleadoff]

I woulda driven my BTTF Delorean and peered into my crystal ball to figger out which relievers woulda given up the least runs. Collins is either an idiot or under-resourced without his own Delorean.

[ashie62]

I'd give Beato a shot but would hope for better.

DFA Batista already...

Huston Street is available...fuck Bob Geren and his baseball life hack mentality..JUST GET HIM

[Zvon]

RUIZ![/bigpurple]

Tho alot more went wrong than my nemisis's Gah!BOOM. But he put em up.

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Ashie62 wrote: I Huston Street is available.

Then we could see Huston Street on Houston Street.

[ashie62]

Mets � Willets Point wrote: Ashie62 wrote: I Huston Street is available. Then we could see Huston Street on Houston Street.

Somehow that sounds creepy lol

[G-Fafif]

Kong76 wrote: Thus far, this gentleman from New York is wishing he abstained from this game. Courteously.

Sit down Miguel! For god's sake Miguel, sit down!

(And Tim. And Jeremy. And the rest of them.)

[Edgy MD]

Team lost this one as a unit. Cohesiveness.