stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 BTW, is it me or are Met fans just generally apathetic towards ASG balloting in general, unless in the case of someone like Mike Piazza whom carried over his perennial ASG starter status, or Darryl Strawberry who was so uber popular in the mainstream?Case in point, Keith Hernandez, arguably the most important position player this franchise has ever known, and easily in the top three without too much debate, only made one start as an All Star.Just for the heck of it and illustrative purposes, name all the NL 1B starters during Mex's Metly days:1983 ___________ (yeah this probably shouldn't count as Hernandez was around for what, half a month)1984 ___________1985 ___________1986 Keith Hernandez1987 ____________1988 ____________1989 _____________
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 Maybe it all evens out over time.FWIW, two year "veteran" Darryl Strawberry was selected to start in the 1985 ASG even though on the day the 1985 ASG starters were announced, Straw had accumulated a mere 100 or so AB's, was batting under .210 with 12 RBI's and had missed most of the season to injury.
Met Hunter Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 This is something from the Giants site.� Sandoval moved past David Wright of the New York Mets despite missing 35 games from May 3-June 8 with a fractured left hamate bone and the subsequent surgery. Moreover, Wright entered Sunday outhitting Sandoval, .355 to .307. "He's had a great year. I'm surprised that I made it," said Sandoval, who obviously benefited from the influx of votes from fans who voted a straight Giants ticket in support of Cabrera. By contrast, Wright won the players' vote, as did St. Louis' Yadier Molina at catcher. Players did elect Cabrera to start and chose Cain second, behind Mets knuckleballer R.A. Dickey. Also, Sandoval's election inadvertently might have prevented the inclusion on the team of a more deserving Giant, such as Madison Bumgarner (10-4), Ryan Vogelsong (7-3 before Sunday's start), Santiago Casilla (21 saves) or Sergio Romo (0.83 ERA, lowest among NL relievers). But the annual roster shuffling due to injuries or other factors making players unavailable could prompt the addition of a fifth Giant.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 SteveJRogers wrote:BTW, is it me or are Met fans just generally apathetic towards ASG balloting in generalNYC as a whole has normally been more apathetic in ASG voting.The smaller markets tend to out-vote the larger ones on a per capita basis - remember that it was Cincinnati, not one of the big cities, that originally got the vote taken away from fans because of box stuffing.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Remember also that the SF fans booed Willie Mays when his team moved out there.This result says as much about their baseball knowledge as it does about their computer skills.Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I'm sure their computer skills and baseball knowledge are comparable to or better than most cities (it's northern Cal, for Pete's sake). They're not the issue. The issue is a system designed to fail at what it's allegedly supposed to do.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Frayed Knot wrote: SteveJRogers wrote:BTW, is it me or are Met fans just generally apathetic towards ASG balloting in generalNYC as a whole has normally been more apathetic in ASG voting. I remember when they handed out paper ballots at Shea and at the end of the game, you would see more ballots on the ground and in the aisles than I'd guess were in the ballot boxes. Later
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 MFS62 wrote:Frayed Knot wrote: SteveJRogers wrote:BTW, is it me or are Met fans just generally apathetic towards ASG balloting in generalNYC as a whole has normally been more apathetic in ASG voting. I remember when they handed out paper ballots at Shea and at the end of the game, you would see more ballots on the ground and in the aisles than I'd guess were in the ballot boxes. LaterI always had trouble finding the ballot boxes..Cueto got screwed far worse than Johan.
Guest Mets � Willets Point Guests Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I just don't see what the BFD is. Wright is an All-Star and all that matters is that we'll be able to look at his Baseball Reference page and see he was an All-Star in 2012. As for the boring exhibition game that most players fall all over themselves to avoid playing, I'm sure Wright will get an at-bat, perhaps even a hit (and it will be forgotten within 24 hours). Then he'll be subbed for another 3rd-baseman.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Mets � Willets Point wrote:I just don't see what the BFD is. Wright is an All-Star and all that matters is that we'll be able to look at his Baseball Reference page and see he was an All-Star in 2012. As for the boring exhibition game that most players fall all over themselves to avoid playing, I'm sure Wright will get an at-bat, perhaps even a hit (and it will be forgotten within 24 hours). Then he'll be subbed for another 3rd-baseman.because 'boring exhibition' is your opinion. Because it matters to some that our players are truly appreciated. Do most players fall over themselves to avoid playing? These are baseball players. Almost all of them (non-Yankee division) go anyway. Do you really think they're desperate not to stand on the field for a couple of innings? 2-3 innings out of however many thousands they play a year? Because on some level Wright may be wondering "Maybe fans don't really appreciate me"? Maybe it's not a BFD, but it's at least a D. Maybe the players don't take it seriously, but I bet most of them appreciate the love and support and recognition. Forgotten? maybe, maybe not. Wright has a hit in every All-Star Game I believe. He hit a home run in the 2006 game.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I would submit that, to the extent that the "boring exhibition" label is fair, the counterproductive voting system is a big part of what makes it so.
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