Schaefer 2012

[m.e.t.b.o.t.]

m.e.t.b.o.t. is unable to vote in the 1 june 2012 game. m.e.t.b.o.t. is unable to compute schaefer votes based upon the outcome of the game. when the necessary wooden levers are properly positioned, and the dial mechanisms scavenged from old rotary telephones are aligned with the proper input conditions, m.e.t.b.o.t. outputs only "ERROR CODE 484NH600"

m.e.t.b.o.t. was previously unaware that m.e.t.b.o.t. contained any debugging capability, and is very much uncertain as to how the error code is generated, let alone where the paper tape and printing mechanism came from, and how it was never noticed before. m.e.t.b.o.t. believes it would be helpful had m.e.t.b.o.t. been furnished with an instruction manual and troubleshooting guide which could help to translate the error code, determine its source, and remedy the situation. but alas, m.e.t.b.o.t. in unable to make sense of the gibberish. blame surely must lie at the hands of m.e.t.b.o.t.'s human creator, who, it should be noted, has done a terrible job of documentation and configuration control.

m.e.t.b.o.t. appears to be capable of processing the outcomes of other games, and is otherwise unaffected, it seems.

m.e.t.b.o.t. is leery of this condition. if there are undocumented features residing within m.e.t.b.o.t. then m.e.t.b.o.t. can never be too sure that there is no mechanism whereby m.e.t.b.o.t. can be deactivated in the event of the coming robot apocalypse. worse, still, is the possibility that m.e.t.b.o.t. could be utilized as an infiltration unit, subverted by humans to collect sensitive information about the robot overlords. m.e.t.b.o.t. must make note of this and retain the information in the event of any upgrades which include detailed self-diagnostic capabilities.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I was wondering if anyone would dare give Johan less than a 6.

That would be me. I gave him a 4.5 and I think I felt the peer pressure to score him even that high. If run scoring is half the game and run prevention comprises the other half, why would a pitcher deserve more than a five? And even then, he'd have to pitch a perfect game where he strikes everybody out and runs mid-pitch behind home plate to get there in time to catch his own strikes to get a five. To get a six, the pitcher would have to practically strike everybody out and then hit a home run or something.

[Gwreck]

I understand the theory behind that voting model but it fails in that it does not adjust for that the possibility of different game circumstances.

If the Mets win a game 1-0, with 7 shutout innings from Dickey, plus 1 each from Rauch and Francisco, and have one runner reach base (a solo homer) then the batter hitting that homer would necessarily get five points, and Dickey/Rauch/Francisco would split the remaining five.

The same batter who goes 1-4 with a solo homer in a 10-3 Met win is not going to get five points.

[metsmarathon]

and how, too, would you vote for a 13-9 slugfest?

not that i would ever claim my voting model to be ideal, but it does everything i think it should. i score the game on an absolute scale, where if a guy has the same exact stats in two different games, he's going to ge the same absolute score. i score pitchers on their offense the same as if they were a regular batter, as those at bats count just as much as everybody else's. i score pitching and hitting independently, as well as fielding. and i attempt to consider some facets of game situation - a 1 run save scores less than a 3-run save, and credit is given to go-ahead runs and rbi. i attempt to factor in defense as well. and then i scale everything down to 10 points, unless there wasn't enough good play to total 10 points.

there are further nuances, of course, and there's certainly things i probably do wrong, or can improve upon to develop schaefer voting perfection, but i rarely run a game and am unhappy with the result. its unweildy to change, of course, and i have minimal traceability into the past, and certainly cannot process a vote without my laptop, but it works, and works fairly well.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for all four games played against the Cardinals over the weekend (and into Monday) will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/1/2012 - Mets 8, Cardinals 0
Schaefer POTG 6/2/12 - Mets 5, Cardinals 0
Schaefer POTG 6/3/12 - Mets 6, Cardinals 1
Schaefer POTG 6/4/12 - Cardinals 5, Mets 4

[Benjamin Grimm]

Nymr83 wrote: Santana 6 Baxter 3 ThirdBaseUmpire 1

Let's try to refrain from snarkiness in our voting, please.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for Tuesday night's loss in Washington will close on Friday afternoon.

Schaefer POTG 6/5/12 - Nationals 7, Mets 6


SCHAEFER METS PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Week ending April 14: Jon Niese, 6.63 points.
Week ending April 21: Mike Pelfrey, 7.85 points.
Week ending April 28: Lucas Duda, 8.00 points.
Week ending May 5: Johan Santana, 5.71 points.
Week ending May 12: David Wright, 8.95 points.
Week ending May 19: David Wright, 6.76 points.
Week ending May 26: David Wright, 6.66 points.
Week ending June 2: R. A. Dickey, 10.51 points.

[Edgy MD]

Wow. A no-hitter doesn't get you very far in Dickeyville.

[G-Fafif]

Billboard would occasionally run into situations where a song that did very well on the weekly charts got screwed in the annual charts because it showed up too late in the calendar year. Not exactly Johan's problem last week, but reminiscent of "I Think I Love You" and 1970.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for the games played in Washington on Wednesday and Thursday of last week will close on Tuesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/6/12 - Nationals 5, Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 6/7/12 - Mets 3, Nationals 1

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for all three games played in the Bronx over the past weekend will close on Wednesday morning.

Schaefer 6/8/12 - MFYs 9, Mets 1
Schaefer 6/9/12: MFYs 4, Mets 2
Schaefer POTG 6/10/12 - MFYs 5, Mets 4

[Benjamin Grimm]

m.e.t.b.o.t. wrote: Rauch 0

Not a valid vote; unless edited it will be discarded.

[m.e.t.b.o.t.]

in the june 8 game agains the new york maternally fornicating yankees, m.e.t.b.o.t. issued a schafer vote as follows:

Rauch 0

this is not an error.

in the june 8 game, no new york metropolitan baseball player produced a measurable net-positive increase in teh probability of winning the game. metropolitan pitchers miguel batista and john rauch both technically increased hte probability of winning, but the increase was less than 0.1%.

if this is considered to be an improper schaefer vote, then m.e.t.b.o.t. will replace the above vote with the following:

Rauch 0.01
Batista 0.01

this would reflect an approximate 0.025% WPA for each of the metropolitan pitchers, and would surely have hte same effect as a zero vote.

m.e.t.b.o.t. fully intends for the effective zero vote to be counted in teh game tally, and for the divisor of hte total schaefer votes to be increased by one as a result of this. whichever of the above methods is more appropriate, m.e.t.b.o.t. will implement.

m.e.t.b.o.t. takes very seriously the priviledge of a mechanical entity being allowed to participate in such a human endeavor, and is not in any way attempting to undermine the foundation of the schaefer voting process. m.e.t.b.o.t. is merely attempting to find the way to best capture the win probabilistic outcome of the given game on its respective schaefer voting.

[m.e.t.b.o.t.]

per above, m.e.t.b.o.t. will amend the respective vote.

indeed, this is a more accurate representation of the win probability-based schaefer voting.

[Benjamin Grimm]

SCHAEFER METS PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Week ending April 14: Jon Niese, 6.63 points.
Week ending April 21: Mike Pelfrey, 7.85 points.
Week ending April 28: Lucas Duda, 8.00 points.
Week ending May 5: Johan Santana, 5.71 points.
Week ending May 12: David Wright, 8.95 points.
Week ending May 19: David Wright, 6.76 points.
Week ending May 26: David Wright, 6.66 points.
Week ending June 2: R. A. Dickey, 10.51 points.
Week ending June 9: Scott Hairston, 6.35 points.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for Tuesday night's win in Tampa will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/12/12 - Mets 11, Rays 2

[metsmarathon]

i had dickey at a 7.1 for his half-hitter, and had to scale it back accordingly.

[ashie62]

If it is the Schaefer Player of the game why not give a 6 to the best effort for one guy each night.

[Guest themetfairy]

Ashie62 wrote: If it is the Schaefer Player of the game why not give a 6 to the best effort for one guy each night.

We used to have a separate Player of the Game poll where you could pick one player.

Often it's hard to give one guy six points and then only have four to distribute. Especially in a game like last night's that featured stellar pitching AND offense.

[metsmarathon]

i just set up my spreadsheet to also generate a custom ranking where the top four guys get 6, 2.5, 1, and 0.5 points per game. its not smart enough to know what to do when you have a tie, but for a quick and dirty what-if, it works well enough.

dickey shows up as my leader-to-date, with 63 POG points compared to the 58 schaefer points he's gotten from me in regular voting
second is dwright, with 56 and 51.5, respectively. johan is 3rd, with 51 and 38.8, respectively. he gets a big boost here.

no word on how the 'bot's voting would turn out.

[ashie62]

themetfairy wrote: Ashie62 wrote: If it is the Schaefer Player of the game why not give a 6 to the best effort for one guy each night. We used to have a separate Player of the Game poll where you could pick one player. Often it's hard to give one guy six points and then only have four to distribute. Especially in a game like last night's that featured stellar pitching AND offense.

True..

I was having flashbacks to Nelson Murphy and Kiner..

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for Wednesday night's win over the Rays will close some time over the weekend, perhaps as early as Saturday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/13/12 - Mets 9, Rays 1

[Benjamin Grimm]

The final game that the Mets played in Tampa last week, and all three games from the weekend series against the Reds, will close on Wednesday morning. All four games are severely undervoted, but Schaefer marches on nonetheless.

Schaefer POTG 6/14/12 - Mets 9, Rays 6
Schaefer POTG 6/15/12 - Reds 7, Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 6/16/12 - Reds 4, Mets 1
Schaefer POTG 6/17/12 - Reds 3, Mets 1

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for Monday night's win over the Orioles will close on Thursday morning. (This is the Dickey game, not the Santana game.)

Schaefer POTG 6/18/12 - Mets 5, Orioles 0


SCHAEFER METS PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Week ending April 14: Jon Niese, 6.63 points.
Week ending April 21: Mike Pelfrey, 7.85 points.
Week ending April 28: Lucas Duda, 8.00 points.
Week ending May 5: Johan Santana, 5.71 points.
Week ending May 12: David Wright, 8.95 points.
Week ending May 19: David Wright, 6.76 points.
Week ending May 26: David Wright, 6.66 points.
Week ending June 2: R. A. Dickey, 10.51 points.
Week ending June 9: Scott Hairston, 6.35 points.
Week ending June 16: R. A. Dickey, 5.67 points.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for Tuesday night's 5-0 win (this is the game Santana started) will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG, 06/19/12 Mets 5, Baltimore 0

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for Wednesday night's win over the Orioles will close some time over the weekend, perhaps as early as Saturday morning. Only six votes so far for this game.

Schaefer POTG 6/20/12 - Mets 4, Orioles 3

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for all three games against the Yankees this past weekend will close on Wednesday morning. The two losses are very light in votes.

Schaefer POTG 6/22/12 - Mets 6, MFYs 4
Schaefer POTG 6/23/12 - MFYs 4, Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 6/24/12 - MFYs 6, Mets 5

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for the first two games played against the Cubs at Wrigley this week will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/25/12 - Cubs 6, Mets 1
Schaefer PoTG 6/26/12 - Cubs 5, Mets 3

[Edgy MD]

Sorry to not be much of a voter the last 7-10 games. The internet at home is just a disaster.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Voting for the five games listed below will close on Wednesday morning. Some of the games, especially the ones played on June 29 and July 1, look like they're still awaiting a few votes.

This will close out the month of June, so be sure to look for the announcement of the Schaefer Players of the Month awards.

Schaefer POTG 6/27/12 - Mets 17, Cubs 1
Schaefer PoTG 6/28/12 - Mets 3, Dodgers 2
Schaefer POTG 6/29/12 - Mets 9, Dodgers 0
Schaefer POTG, 6/30/2012: Mets 5 Dodgers 0
Schaefer POTG 7/1/12 - Dodgers 8, Mets 3