EIGHT THOUSAND!

[Benjamin Grimm]

BULLETIN: Assuming no rainouts, Sunday's game will be the 8000th game (including regular and postseason games) in Mets history.

You may now resume your regular morning activities.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: BULLETIN: Assuming no rainouts, Sunday's game will be the 8000th game (including regular and postseason games) in Mets history. You may now resume your regular morning activities.

The 8000th regular season game is.. what early May? 8000 games (presumably at this point) without a no-hitter.

[Guest Edgy DC]

How long a winning streak do they need to get back to .500?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Ultimate Mets Database wrote: The Mets have played 7923 regular season games. They have 3792 wins, 4123 losses, and 8 games have ended in a tie. The Mets' all-time regular season winning percentage is .479.

Maybe today can be the start of a 331-game winning streak!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Another way to look at it is that the Mets can get to .500 by winning an average of 96 games per year for the next eleven years.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Just as long as they cross the finish line before I do.

[Guest attgig]

hrmm...
nonohitters is saying we're at 7293 right now... is their count wrong?

[metirish]

attgig wrote: hrmm... nonohitters is saying we're at 7293 right now... is their count wrong?

I trust UMDB above all others....looks like nonohitters mixed up the numbers?

[Guest attgig]

metirish wrote: attgig wrote: hrmm... nonohitters is saying we're at 7293 right now... is their count wrong? I trust UMDB above all others....looks like nonohitters mixed up the numbers?

woops. I mixed up nonohitters, they say 7923, not 7293.

and then, just adding the mets w-l record over the years, i get 7915. where'd u get 8k from? are you including post season games?

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Another way to look at it is that the Mets can get to .500 by winning an average of 96 games per year for the next eleven years.

Phillies would need like 35 years of 97 wins.

[Benjamin Grimm]

attgig wrote: and then, just adding the mets w-l record over the years, i get 7915. where'd u get 8k from? are you including post season games?

BULLETIN: Assuming no rainouts, Sunday's game will be the 8000th game (including regular and postseason games) in Mets history.

The regular season game count is, through yesterday afternoon, 7,923.

[Vic Sage]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Another way to look at it is that the Mets can get to .500 by winning an average of 96 games per year for the next eleven years.

basically, another decade like the 80s... but more so. I'll take it!

[Benjamin Grimm]

The Road to .500

Graph indicates total number of games that the Mets were below .500 at the conclusion of each season.

[Benjamin Grimm]

It seems that the Mets have largely overcome their M. Donald Grant plunge, but still haven't made up for the Casey Stengel-Wes Westrum years.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't understand. What's that graph of stock market trends have to do with anything?

Whoah! We'll be right back talking to 007 Daniel Craig right after this.

[Met Hunter]

Howie Rose brought up both the game total and the no hitters a couple nights ago. Did mention the spring training no hitter thrown by Gary Kroll and Gordie Richardson back in the day. Howie seems to be gushing lately over the Mets and I'm ok with it.

[seawolf17]

Wow, they were so close in 1962. If only things had started differently.

[G-Fafif]

Starting with the game of April 29, 1968, a 6-5 win over the Reds at Crosley Field (Koosman over George Culver), the Mets are exactly .500 in regular season games. That's as far back as you can go at present and say that. Their record is 3,466-3,466.

Before then the Mets are 331 games below .500.

[Guest Edgy DC]

That's a good way to frame it. Try and get back to the beginning of 1968 by the end of this season. Then try and cancel 1967 next year, and so on. Then in 2017, they go 120-40 apeshit, cancel the last piece of their debt, and set an example for America.

[G-Fafif]

After Friday night's loss in Arizona, the Mets' oldest .500 start date is pushed ahead from April 29, 1968 (the 15th game of that season) to the second game of the May 12, 1968 doubleheader at Chicago, a 10-0 win over the Cubs (Selma beating Joe Niekro). From that game forward (the 28th game of 1968), the Mets are 3,460-3,460.

Before that, up through the first game of that doubleheader, they were an exact .333 ballclub: 332-364, accounting for their current lifetime mark of 332 games below .500.

[G-Fafif]

June 4, 1968: The day of the California primary after which Senator Robert Kennedy was assassinated. And the furthest back one can go to and still give the Mets a composite .500 record. They entered that fateful Tuesday with a 20-27 record and beat the Cubs at Wrigley Field, 5-0 (a whole other, innocuous meaning to "Now it's on to Chicago and let's win there.").

From April 13, 1962 through June 2, 1968: 341-675-4
From June 4, 1968 through August 14, 2011: 3,451-3,451-4

That's 7,927 regular-season games played to date. Throw in the 73 postseason games and, per Grimm, the Mets have just played their 8,000th game that counted.

The 31st game of 2012 will be (barring the reinstitution of ties that are played overly in their entirety) the 8,000th regular-season game in franchise history.

BTW, the Mets entered 2011 13 games above .500 (regular season) from the beginning of the 1969 season. They are now nine over. Their base mission is to finish no worse than 75-87 this year so as to be a winning ballclub over the past 43 seasons, 2011 included.

[Vic Sage]

i don't get the point of arbitrarily saying we're .500, or above .500, since a particular moment 7 years after the franchise began. Yes, the Mets have been ok, since they've been ok. But the first 7 years happened. In fact, much of the franchise's history and culture (for good and ill) are tied up in those early years. I'm not interested in overly romanticizing those "lovable losers", but they are a part of the story. it's double-plus-ungood to pretend otherwise.

[G-Fafif]

Nobody's pretending they didn't happen. Just having some fun with numbers.