Emaus DFAed, Turner Up, Sez Internets

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

"I'm not tryin' to be the sezzy, bro. It's jes, someone stole my unnershirts."

[G-Fafif]

That GQ photo shoot remains The Best Thing That Ever Happened.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Oh, yes. Tremendous pop in the right context, and a SuperJoeish comic versatility.

[metirish]

G-Fafif wrote: That GQ photo shoot remains The Best Thing That Ever Happened.

true , love it ......

[G-Fafif]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Oh, yes. Tremendous pop in the right context, and a SuperJoeish comic versatility.

Randy Johnson quivers at the sight of all that leather.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Adam Rubin wrote: Brad Emaus' days with the Mets -- in the majors or minors -- appear done. Emaus, as a Rule 5 pick, is currently on waivers. If another team claims him, that organization would assume responsibility for keeping Emaus on the major league roster for the remainder of the season. The more likely scenario is Emaus clears waivers and is offered back to his former club, the Toronto Blue Jays, for $25,000 -- half the price the Mets paid to draft him. At that point, the Mets could work out a trade with Toronto in order to keep Emaus and place him in the minors. However, a team insider said it's "unlikely" the Mets would try to retain Emaus.

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, the part about having to clear waivers again is that other teams that may have wanted to claim him originally but were short-circuited by the NYM claim get another crack at him. Plus Emaus still fits the conditions that made him subject to the Rule 5 draft in the first place.


Part of the Met decision to do this may have something to do with Muffy's better than expected defensive play as well as Emaus's bad play.
I didn't think they'd pull the plus this quickly but if they reached the decision that Turner is a better bet going forward then there's no time like the present.

[TransMonk]

Part of me thinks that Emaus may not have been the #1 pick for 2B out of the gate, but due to his Rule 5 status, he got the first chance to fail.

I like the quick hook that this management team has in comparison to the "waiting for them to come around" attitude of the past. Too quick? Maybe. But I can't say that I don't agree.

Boyer and Emaus, thanks for playing...who's next?

[ashie62]

Emaus..Garbage in..garbage out..

[Guest themetfairy]

Brad, we hardly knew you!

[Ceetar]

Here's my confusing rules question.

Say they decide to pull Emaus back off waivers. Can they do that? And if they can, does that cancel the rule 5 status?

Because Toronto only gets him if he clears, but if he can be pulled back, he can't be placed on again. The Mets would I suppose have to outright release him to get rid of him at that point. At which point anyone could sign him as he'd basically become a free agent right?

And if that's the case, can they release him instead of waivers to begin with? and if they do, can they then resign him immediately to a minor league deal?

What am I missing? Or is the process of putting a rule 5 guy through waivers different?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I believe these are irrevocable waivers; if a team claims him, they've got him (under the same Rule V conditions with which the Mets were dealing), with no "pullbacks." (Think Texas and Darren O'Day.) If nobody wants him, then he's offered back to the Jays for $25K. They can also work out a trade if they'd like to hold onto him; then and only then is the Rule V condition set gone.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I believe these are irrevocable waivers; if a team claims him, they've got him (under the same Rule V conditions with which the Mets were dealing), with no "pullbacks." (Think Texas and Darren O'Day.) If nobody wants him, then he's offered back to the Jays for $25K. They can also work out a trade if they'd like to hold onto him; then and only then is the Rule V condition set gone.

irrevocable. that makes sense.

[duan]

for what it's worth he looked horrible defensively in the bits I've seen. The double clutch on the throw to third, the botched DP play and could well have cost two games with his glove (sure other things went wrong but football always has me tracing things back to the first mistake so it's sort of how I work things mentally)

On other notes, Brandon Wood got DFA'd last night and strikes me as EXACTLY the kind of guy that a team with fuck all hope of competing could take a look see at.

[seawolf17]

duan wrote: On other notes, Brandon Wood got DFA'd last night and strikes me as EXACTLY the kind of guy that a team with fuck all hope of competing could take a look see at.

No way. Not only can he not hit major league pitching, he actually got worse in AAA the last few seasons. Plus we have no place to put him.

[ashie62]

seawolf17 wrote: duan wrote: On other notes, Brandon Wood got DFA'd last night and strikes me as EXACTLY the kind of guy that a team with fuck all hope of competing could take a look see at. No way. Not only can he not hit major league pitching, he actually got worse in AAA the last few seasons. Plus we have no place to put him.

Buffalo?

[Guest Edgy DC]

A former minor league player of the year is a former minor league player of the year. I mean, maybe that was drug-induced illusion, but... it makes me feel better that the Mets (apparently) made the hard decision of cutting loose a Rule V second baseman when the Angels had to cut loose a shortstop who who hit 43 homers at Ranco Cucamonga.

In the equivelant of a major league season, spread out over parts of five, he's gone .197 / .259 / .455 // .714. Pretty stinking awful, but not without at least a glimmer of hope when you see the isolated slugging.

Still, if he accomplishes little else going forward, I know myself that I sure wish I had Hit 43 Homers at Ranco Cucamonga! emblazoned on my calling card.

[smg58]

Wood is presumably out of options, so we'd have to claim him, then put him back through waivers, and then hope he clears in order to send him to Buffalo. That would be doable only if every other team thinks he's worth nothing. In that case, we'd better know something they don't.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Or merely suspect something. What's really to lose if a team like the Mets is wrong? The difference between an un-improved Wood and Russ Adams can't be all that bad a downside.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

G-Fafif wrote: They must have seen something they really didn't like...besides the kid bobbling that double play ball last Thursday.

Like this?

Still 42pa .....smh. Of course, this guarantees he'll become a 30hr hitter.

[duan]

Brandon Wood vs Chin Lung Hu ?

[Guest Edgy DC]

What a throw from Duda.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Edgy DC wrote: What a throw from Duda.

It's easy to criticise Duda's throw, but there's something endemic in this organisation about fielding players out of position, just to get their asses in the line-up. There are a myriad of examples in recent history how this tactic has failed miserably, yet they persist in doing it.

The only time I can say it mildly paid-off was with Zeile in 2000, yet he was still a below average 1B that year.

I don't follow other organisations closely enough to say this is a unique phenomenon, but like bunting, it seems to be something that transcends the management of the day.


Somebody tell me that I'm wrong.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm not sure. I'm loathe to accept that a position is imprinted on somebody and all other positions are wrong. On the other hand, he had only 20 games in right in the minors.

He's a big donkey, and his real positon is hitter. The problem with his defense is that it matters, because he hasn't hit. At all. The main alternatives were to open the seaosn with someone among Pridie, Feliciano, Martinez, and Kirk Nieuwenhuis. (I don't think Val Pascucci even got an invite to camp.) I don't think any of us were particularly clamoring for them at the time because of their better rightfieldiness.

[Frayed Knot]

John Sickels on Brandon Wood:

-- Everyone knows about former top prospect Brandon Wood being designated for assignment by the Los Angeles Angels this week. I think the move is necessary; he wasn't helping the team and he clearly needs a change of scenery to have any hope of living up to his former potential.

Anyone who has seen Wood play over the last couple of years can diagnose his problems: his approach at the plate is completely fouled up, he alternates between being too passive and too aggressive (sometimes in the same at-bat), and his confidence is obviously shot. As awful as he's been, I'd still be willing to take a chance with him if I were another team.

All the physical tools that made him a hot prospect are still there. He's a good defender at third base and can still play shortstop. And I've seen him, in person, in the minor leagues do the things he can't seem to do in the majors: control the strike zone decently and show power to all fields. Perhaps it really is some uncorrectable swing flaw that makes him an AAAA player, but there's at least some chance that the problem is entirely (or mostly) mental and a fresh team and different coaching staff can help him. We'll see.

[TransMonk]

Per Metsblog:

Brad Emaus has cleared waivers.

However, since he was a Rule 5 draft choice from the Blue Jays in December, he had to be offered back to them for $25,000, and the Blue Jays accepted the offer and assigned him to Triple-A Las Vegas.

[Ceetar]

Per Metsblog: Brad Emaus has cleared waivers. However, since he was a Rule 5 draft choice from the Blue Jays in December, he had to be offered back to them for $25,000, and the Blue Jays accepted the offer and assigned him to Triple-A Las Vegas.

Memories of Emaus? or do we just not have anything to say? Gotta be more than Boyer..

[Benjamin Grimm]

He ended up doing a lot less for the Mets than Bill Pecota did.

[Frayed Knot]

Brandon Wood picked up by the Pittsburghers.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

And Emaus just got traded to the Rockies!