Coaching staff 2011

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Snooze today suggests Hale and Warthen will return to their posts and Tim Tuefel is the likely 1B coach.

Hitting coach would likely come from outside the org.

Bench coach likely to be Melvin if Melvin not named skipper.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Snooze today suggests Warthen will return to their posts.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Guest Edgy DC]

Come on, why? Why should more capable people get tossed because of association with less capable people?

[metirish]

Rubin had the same speculation last night......with Jauss taking over the Collins role as minor league field coordinator

Collins - Manager
Melvin - Bench
Teufel - First Base
Hale - Third Base
Wharten - Pitching Coach

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Come on, why? Why should more capable people get tossed because of association with less capable people?

I could go on and on about how Warthen provides nothing worthwhile. It's hard to really analyze what impact coaches have, but even the guys that had good years, Niese and Pelfrey, hit walls at times and the pitching coach was missing when they needed him most.

He seemed to have a completely hands off approach with Santana, and yes, the guys a veteran and smarter than him, but sometimes you need that outside opinion, especially in game when you're tipping pitches or tipping motions and the phillies are running rampant on you because of a tell.

But I'm not too concerned, I don't believe the beat writers have an inside angle on the coaching staff of a manager that hasn't been hired yet and first round interviews that haven't even finished yet.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The staff had a good year, grand slams and injuries and everything considered.

At any rate, I don't take too seriously speculation on who's going to be pitching coach before there's a manager. The pitching coach decision has got to be seriously consulted on by the manager, if not considered his perogative.

This is what I got in the other thread regarding where we sit. Maybe Hale or Dave Jauss knocks out HoJo.

Projected Staff

Manager	Bench Coach	Batting Coach	Pitching Coach	Third Base Coach
77 Terry Collins DoB:5/27/1949	3 Bob Melvin DoB:8/28/1961	20 Howard Johnson DoB:11/29/1960	59 Dan Warthan DoB:12/1/1952	51 Chip Hale DoB:12/2/1964
First Base Coach	Bullpen Coach
11 Tim Teufel DoB:7/7/1958	55 Randy Niemann DoB:12/15/1955

[Guest Edgy DC]

Tracksuit is reporting that Jauss may get a spot in the Mets organization but not on the big league staff and that Backman may not be getting that second chat after all.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Ceetar wrote: I could go on and on about how Warthen provides nothing worthwhile.

Mike Pelfrey and R.A. Dickey, who know better than you, would disagree.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Edgy DC wrote: Come on, why? Why should more capable people get tossed because of association with less capable people?

Maybe there are more capable people available?

Bad headline on this article-- which kindasorta implies that the interviewing is the cause for the firing-- but still... this is a little weird/cruel. Jacket II?

[metirish]

I liked Peterson......I think I read last week that the yankees had asked Oakland for permission to talk to their pitching coach....

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: I could go on and on about how Warthen provides nothing worthwhile. Mike Pelfrey and R.A. Dickey, who know better than you, would disagree.

John Maine and Oliver Perez would agree. Besides, when do players rat out their coaches? Wright said they should keep HoJo.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Well, yeah. I'm not sure I could fire Keith, either-- besides being a good friend/colleague, Hojo is Sugarpants' childhood idol.

As for Peterson... he didn't quite work under Alderson in Oakland, but he did work with DePo. I'd imagine he kinda suits the new FO like a fitted weatherproof windbreaker.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Here's a thought out of left field.

Collins is said to want a catcher as bullpen coach. There's a roving catching instructor who answered to San Diego president Sandy Alderson, who also was a catching instructor with the Chinese national team under Collins.



Fella by the name of Dyer.

An added bonus is that he's lost his 1969 championship ring and the Mets could be super-cool and give him a new one when they welcome him back.

The whole story's here, with quality MbtN content.

[G-Fafif]

Interesting notion. If Dyer comes home, Collins either gets a new number or changes his story to "I am inspired by Duffy."

Some McCarron-generated love for Duff' here.

[TransMonk]

Return of the Mook?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Kevin Burkhardt is reporting on the possiblity of Moises Alou for first base coach, which was to have been Mookie's assignment.

I like the idea. They currently have no native Spanish speakers, he can help with the hitting instruction, and he's a GM of Escogido in the Dominican League, so he likely has a good knowledge of fringey players that Manuel and Alderson and co. may not know so well. He can grab a bat in a pinch also.

I'm also suspecting that the team kicking his tires may come from an endorsement from Minaya, and that maybe they're making a courtesy call and nothing more.

[Fman99]

I like it, this team needs more piss and vinegar(-y smelling hands).

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

That got me to thinking, "Man, Charlie's going to have to scrub those bats after every game again."

Then I remembered.

Then I thought, "We haven't heard anything about Charlie's successor, have we?"

Have we?

[TransMonk]

I'll do it, if they're looking for someone.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The Mets are looking at Jon Debus as a bullpen coach. He apparently has history with both Collins and DePodesta.

[Valadius]

I nominate Metirish to replace Charlie Samuels.

[metirish]

Valadius wrote: I nominate Metirish to replace Charlie Samuels.

Not sure what direction this piss taking is going but I like it

[metirish]

Don Long interviewed for the hitting coach job today....Long spent the last three seasons as the hitting coach in Pittsburgh....cue jokes....Rubin says though he gets credit for helping Bay...

[Benjamin Grimm]

Didn't Don Long's name come up in the Clarence Thomas hearings way back when?

[Fman99]

metirish wrote: Valadius wrote: I nominate Metirish to replace Charlie Samuels. Not sure what direction this piss taking is going but I like it

If your piss goes missing, check Moises' locker. Or Moistest Alou as I like to call him.

[metirish]

Rubin says Bay asked the Mets to interview Long.

[metirish]

An intriguing candidate,

http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets

The Mets interviewed Dave Hudgens for the hitting coach position Tuesday afternoon at the Dolphin Hotel, closing out the field. The other two candidates are former Detroit Tigers first base coach Andy Van Slyke and former Pittsburgh Pirates hitting coach Don Long. Hudgens manages Caracas in the Venezuelan winter league and has minor league field coordinator for the Cleveland Indians for the past five seasons. He also has served as a minor league manager for the Oakland Athletics. He actually was the fifth overall pick in the first round by the Mets in the June 1975 draft but did not sign.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Ruby was either in such a rush he forgot to spell check 'Colorado', or he was trying to appeal to the Gen-Y demographic that could give 2 shits about the game & doesn't know post-humidor baseball is totally rad.

DEC 7 6:58 PM ET EmailPrintComments By Adam Rubin A source with direct knowledge of the Mets' plans expects reliever D.J. Carrasco will agree to a two-year deal with the Mets. The source also felt that despite interest from the Colorad Rockies, the Mets ultimately would land catcher Ronny Paulino as well. No other free agent signings are expected to be done during the winter meetings by the Mets.

[metirish]

Rubin says Oberkfell expected to be named bench coach. I like it.

[metirish]

From Heyman, Mets will hire Debus(bullpen) , Mookie(first) to join Hudgens, Oberkfell, Wharton and Hale.