G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Around in right, pick a couple of guys who played in the N.L. East for what they did as N.L. Easterners.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Larry Walker is from British Columbia actually, not Ontario./ducks
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 Willets Point wrote:Larry Walker is from British Columbia actually, not Ontario./ducks/flings shoe
Guest Swan Swan H Guests Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 G-Fafif wrote:Willets Point wrote:Larry Walker is from British Columbia actually, not Ontario./ducks/flings shoeIs Flings Shoe anywhere near Flin Flon?
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 This was easier than I would have figured, because I already decided the Phils would no longer get any of my votes, esp if there was a worthy Met up there. Abreu was a very consistant player.Clemente and the Strawman.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Zvon wrote:Clemente and the Strawman.same here
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 I'd have to look at Parker's numbers but I'm doin my so I won't.He was a formidable opponent ....and, oh, what an arm.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 Surprised that thus far I am alone in my love for Vlad. Even with his free-swinging ways, the man personified danger when he stepped to the plate in an Expos uniform. Not that others here didn't do the same in their own uniforms, but Guerrero stands out for me with Clemente, a shade above Parker.Hope Darryl doesn't stop by my desk and yell at me.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 If we're only taking the last four years of Clemente's career --- as I understand we are --- we're getting four great years, but pretty much analogous to Dave Parker's 1975-1979 peak. But we still have eight more years of Parkerness to add in.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 I voted for Parker and Guerrero. I would have voted for Clemente, but, as Edgy noted, we're only looking at four years of his career.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 Edgy DC wrote:If we're only taking the last four years of Clemente's career --- as I understand we are --- we're getting four great years, but pretty much analogous to Dave Parker's 1975-1979 peak. But we still have eight more years of Parkerness to add in.Roberto left a huge, Parker-sized impression on me.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Vladdy and Straw.But man, are there some nasty hitters in here. Sheff's a medal contender for me, along with Clemente and Parker.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 I had Abreu and Parker, but then revised my vote by swapping Strawberry (in) for Parker (out), and then finally, Vlad (in) for Strawberry (out).
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Vlad was bad. Vlad was a star stuck in a vortex of suck that was the Expos. Strawberry was spectacular during his time with the Mets.Clemente was truly spectacular. He could truly do it all on a baseball field. Alas, he loses out on a technicality as the vast majority of his years were before the advent of divisional play.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Rockin' Doc wrote:Clemente was truly spectacular. He could truly do it all on a baseball field. Alas, he loses out on a technicality as the vast majority of his years were before the advent of divisional play.I don't see what the technicality is. Otherwise, I'd be voting for Honus Wagner at shortstop and Stan Musial at first base.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 i pulled clemente for vlad, these years in the east are killing me
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 batmagadanleadoff wrote:Rockin' Doc wrote:Clemente was truly spectacular. He could truly do it all on a baseball field. Alas, he loses out on a technicality as the vast majority of his years were before the advent of divisional play.I don't see what the technicality is. Otherwise, I'd be voting for Honus Wagner at shortstop and Stan Musial at first base.Okay, I admit that technicality was a poor choice of words. You're right, the task was not to rate their overall career, just their time in the NL East. I initially voted for Clemente and Vlad. Then I realized that as great as he was, Clemente only played the last few years of his HOF career in the NL East since the majority of his career preceeded the formation of divisions. I really liked Strawberry and he was very good during his time with the Mets, but his career does not stack up to those of Clemente or Guerrero. I don't believe Strawberry's career really stacks up very well against that of Andre Dawson or Larry Walker. However, Strawberry ends up ahead of both of them and Clemente because their years as outstanding right fielders fell outside the NL East. I guess that when I look at the names on that list, my initial impression is that Strawberry is the 4th or 5th best of the group, but after I weed through their production during the time they played within the NL East he jumps up to number two. I think I was getting frustrated whittling career down only to the time spent in the NL East.
Guest sharpie Guests Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Kinda surprised Hank Aaron doesn't make the cut.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 sharpie wrote:Kinda surprised Hank Aaron doesn't make the cut.Aaron played on the Braves when they were inexplicably in the NL West.
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