Sack One

[Guest Edgy DC]

Hessman plays third. Carter is outfielding but also DHing, with the better outfield being F-Bomb/Pridie/Feliciano going left-to-right.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

As per the newest outpost of the Empire: as Chris Carter died earlier Sunday when not enough front office personnel clapped that they believed in him*, Ike Davis will be making his debut with the big club sometime this week.

*Like TInkerbell, or Heath Bell.

[Guest Edgy DC]

"When it's time for him to come up, he just needs to remember to come in and do what he's done his whole career," Wright said, reflecting on the pressure a hyped prospect faces in New York.

His whole career being 2009, but not 2008.

[bmfc1]

Carter, he of the many HRs in ST, was told to bunt in the 10th on Sunday. With the Bisons down 1, bottom of the 10th, Ike and Hessman singled but Carter bunted into a force play. Two K's later, the game was over. I would think that you'd want a big hitter to swing the bat--the tying run was already in scoring position--but no. Perhaps Oberkfell wanted to get him ready for Jerryball.

[metirish]

We are getting nothing from first base, why Davis and not Carter(not that I oppose the move, just curious).

[ashie62]

Ike Davis. The new great Mets hope. Good like Ike and may you render muffy irrelevant.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I do wonder what will happen with Murphy if Davis plays well and stakes a solid claim on first base.

As they say, it's the good kind of problem to have.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Muffy's career as a ulityman gets an earlier start is all, especially if they make Jacobs the everyday 1Bman at Buffalo, which they might.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm not convinced Davis is here to stay.

[metirish]

Murphy would be on the bench I suppose, he could cover several spots.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Edgy DC wrote: I'm not convinced Davis is here to stay.

I don't think anyone is. (I know I'm not.) We're just conjecturing what will happen with Murphy if Davis stays.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I'm not convinced Davis is here to stay. I don't think anyone is. (I know I'm not.) We're just conjecturing what will happen with Murphy if Davis stays.

I am. I mean, if he's called up at all.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I'm not convinced Davis is here to stay. I don't think anyone is. (I know I'm not.) We're just conjecturing what will happen with Murphy if Davis stays.

Hopefully it's cut and dry obvious.

I'm worried that Davis will (just to use statistics for the sake of comparison) hit like .240 with 10 home runs and Murphy hits .260 with 15. Then you get in the sticky situation where Murphy is clearly better _right now_ , but Davis is playing well enough that nobody wants him to get sent down.

I guess it'd help if we had a definitive date on Murphy's return as well.

I just don't like the reactionary aspect of the move (that hasn't happened yet). Davis on April 5th, or not till midseason seemed to be the wisest move. is 12 more games really that much more telling?

[Guest Edgy DC]

I think Murphy provides a psychological cover. If he's up and not ready to stick, the return of Murphy says, "Well, we knew he wasn't quite ready, but he was just here to fill a gap. He'lll be back. Good job, son."

I pick Carter first every time.

[bmfc1]

It looks like no Ike tonight. The Bisons have tweeted their lineup for today's day game:

BuffaloBisons

#Bisons batting: Pridie CF, Thole C, FMart LF, Davis 1B, Hessman 3B, Carter DH, Cintron 2B, Feliciano RF, Tejada SS. RHP Dickey.

[Ceetar]

the +1 year of arbritration or whatever is like tomorrow, so might as well at least wait until then at this point.

Do we get a stop-gap Evans/Carter for a day or two, or play short? (Unlikely Manuel would use either guy if called up. Tatis is still on the team)

[Ceetar]

btw, I don't read.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I do wonder what will happen with Murphy if Davis plays well and stakes a solid claim on first base.

I don't know nothing. But I bet Chris Carter gets asked to dig the hole.

[Frayed Knot]

Ceetar wrote: the +1 year of arbritration or whatever is like tomorrow, so might as well at least wait until then at this point.

There is no 'arbitration cut-off' date.
There is point at which a player called up gets credit for a full season - I think that's 20 days into the season and today should be about day 15). That's something which could affect his FA status six years from now, so if we assume that Davis gets called up now he'd hit FA-gency a year earlier than if he were called up in another week or two (after the 2015 season instead of after 2016). All that, of course, assumes he's up here to stay and never gets sent down again, something which is hardly a given.

Arbitration is a different story since it's based on a player's service time as compared to all other 2-3 year players. Usually you have to leave a player down on the farm until the end of May in order to delay his arb-eligible days by a year but there's no way to know for certain since there are too many variables.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think if Davis comes up and does reasonably well, he'll stick.

But if after 20 games he's hitting .180, he goes back to Buffalo and Murphy reclaims his job.

[MFS62]

If Ike is as good as we all hope, and the Mets think, he will be, then I don't care how much the Mets will have to pay him. Or when.

Later

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Standards ain't what they used to be. Assuming he gets called up, if Davis does something memorable his first week, and then hits .250/slugs .430, plays unembarrassing defense, and doesn't expose himself to a bus full of schoolkids, he should stick.

[Benjamin Grimm]

MFS62 wrote: If Ike is as good as we all hope, and the Mets think, he will be, then I don't care how much the Mets will have to pay him. Or when. Later

Me neither. But I do care about how long he sticks with the Mets.

[bmfc1]

Tweets now say that Ike will be at CF for tonight's game.

[Fman99]

Brad Como from SNY reporting that Ike will be activated prior to tonight's game. I approve, heartily.

[MFS62]

bmfc1 wrote: Tweets now say that Ike will be at CF for tonight's game.

(Channeling Johnny Cochran)
"If it has been tweeted , it must be fait accomplited".

Later

[bmfc1]

Ike has been scratched from the Buffalo lineup today and is en route to Queens.

FYI: new Buffalo lineup-- BuffaloBisons

#Bisons new order: Pridie CF, Thole C, FMart LF, Hessman 1B, Carter DH, Cervenak 3B, Cintron 2B, Feliciano RF, Tejada SS. RHP Dickey

[TransMonk]

Is that 2b Alex Cintron? I had no idea we had him in Buffalo.

[metirish]

Mount St. Helen's has erupted and Ike can't take Fred's private jet and must now take the train, will he make it in time is the question.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

metirish wrote: Mount St. Helen's has erupted and Ike can't take Fred's private jet and must now take the train, will he make it in time is the question.

Is his flight really a no-go?

And in this train, is there a Practice-Hitting-Lefties car?