The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)

[Guest Edgy DC]

Breaking News from Rubin is that Reyes will not play again today.

[metirish]

From NBC

Jose Reyes (hamstring) was scratched from Friday's lineup due to a non-baseball related issue.

I'd like if the Mets had a comment on this by the end of the day so nothing mushrooms .

[metirish]

More from Rubin and it is potentially not good.

UPDATE: May be imbalance in thyroid levels with Reyes. Headed to New York. Test is Monday. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/#ixzz0hJty1tkJ

UPDATE II: Reyes said he's had no symptoms and feels fine. He said doctors believe it's an overactive thyroid. The test will be Monday, and result not available for 48 hours after that. Reyes will not be permitted to do physical activity until then. The local doctors had cleared Reyes to play today, but that was overruled when the results were reviewed in New York. "I have to be concerned about it and find out what's going on," Reyes said. "... This is important. We're not talking about my leg. We're talking about my health, so I have to be concerned about it." Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/#ixzz0hJvMIqi4

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Christ.

[duan]

forgive my overactive imagination

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Wells2.html
"HGH and its Effects on the Thyroid Gland

Dr. Ronald Klatz states "Human growth hormone exerts its actions either directly or indirectly through its intermediary insulin growth factors to every organ system of the body, ........almost nothing escapes its magical touch."

Jens Sandahl Christiansen of the Aarthus Kommunehospital of Denmark stated in a report "untreated HGH deficient adults have been shown to have increased cardiovascular mortality, reduced exercise capacity, reduced muscle strength, subnormal glomerular filtration rate and renal plasma flow, defective sweat secretion and defective thermoregulation, reduced energy expenditure and basal metabolic rate, abnormal thyroid hormone metabolism, reduced myocardial function and clinical signs of premature atherosclerosis. Body composition has been found abnormal with increased fat mass, decreased lean body mass, decreased muscle fat ratio, visceral obesity, reduced extracellular fluid volume, and reduced bone mineral content

Improving the body's release of and use of HGH is known to help to improve the function of other organs in the body and help to stabilize other hormones in the body, this includes the thyroid gland and thyroid hormone.

Many patients who undergo successful HGH therapy see improvements in their hypothyroidism condition. This includes a decrease in their need for thyroid medications.

Patients with thyroid problems should consult their private doctor before beginning any HGH therapy.

Anyone with hyperthyroidism should not take any HGH product unless it is specifically prescribed to them by their private physician.

Anyone with hypothyroidism should see improvements with HGH therapy, however they too should consult their private physician and get permission to begin HGH therapy.

When a patient with hypothyroidism begins taking one of my HGH products I always tell them to pay close attention to their body. They should have their thyroid levels checked before beginning therapy with my product, and they should continue to monitor their thyroid levels as the therapy progresses. The reason for this is because the product should improve the function of the thyroid gland, and as the function of the thyroid gland improves, its release of thyroid hormone should also improve and so the need for thyroid medication should decrease. The thyroid levels should be checked after the first 3-4 weeks of therapy with my product, even sooner if the patient notices any symptoms of hyperthyroidism. The patient's private physician will decide if and when the thyroid medication should be decreased or stopped.

[Benjamin Grimm]

UPDATE II: Reyes said he's had no symptoms and feels fine. He said doctors believe it's an overactive thyroid. The test will be Monday, and result not available for 48 hours after that. Reyes will not be permitted to do physical activity until then.

Day... to day... to day... to day.

It's like d�j� vu all over again.

My elderly cat had thyroid problems. We treated it, and kept her alive for another couple of years, but putting little pills inside her cat treats. Maybe the Mets should consider the same for Jose. I can give them the phone number of my vet. I figure he can't be any worse than the doctors they already have.*


*I wanted to be the first to brush off (and mock) that cliche in 2010.

[Ceetar]

It's sad that the speculation of HGH has to be brought up for just about everything.

On the other hand, Reyes didn't play in any games after seeing that doc, and if it caused a thyroid problem we can be reasonable certain that he's clean going forward (And was clean before hand)

[duan]

well i'll be honest, first thing that got into my head was the desire to get for him a theraputic use exemption, it's unfortunate but look

"According to the MLB report issued in January, there were 106 TUEs granted for ADD in the 2008 season. And the increase in TUEs from 28 in 2006 to 103 in 2007 got the attention of Congress in its January 2008 steroids hearing."
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/08/09/legal-greenies-nick-green-explains-ins-outs-of-therapeutic-use/

[Methead]

Unfuckinbelievable.

[MFS62]

IMO, it seems to be a chicken/egg thing.
Was HGH used at all?
Did the problem arise after any use of HGH?
Was the thyroid problem there before any use of HGH?
Did the doctor check for those problems before giving HGH?

Then:
Did any use of HGH actually contribute to any worseining of a pre-existing thyroid condition?
Can a TUE be granted in such a circumstance?
Does he need a TUE if he is no longer taking HGH?

I'm not sure any additional tests can answer any of those questions.
But I hope whatever ails him can be corrected and he can resume playing as quickly as possible.

Later

[Ceetar]

well i'll be honest, first thing that got into my head was the desire to get for him a theraputic use exemption, it's unfortunate but look

"According to the MLB report issued in January, there were 106 TUEs granted for ADD in the 2008 season. And the increase in TUEs from 28 in 2006 to 103 in 2007 got the attention of Congress in its January 2008 steroids hearing."
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/08/09/legal-greenies-nick-green-explains-ins-outs-of-therapeutic-use/[/quote:26n0ywej]


I only know what I've heard about this. They 'treat' ADD with amphetamines right? I remember hearing a doctor, I think on Ed Randyll's..(sp) talking baseball show, that said the ADD level in MLB is more than 2x the national average.

[Chad ochoseis]

I had an overactive thyroid last summer, even without HGH.

It's no fun at all - I was sleepy most of the day, the amount of weight I could lift in the gym dropped in half, and I went from being able to run four miles at a comfortable 9-10 minute pace to not being able to run a quarter mile without my heart feeling like Keith Moon's ghost had snuck in there with his drum set. Even at rest, my pulse rate was 100. And I dropped 22 pounds in six weeks. Basically, it weakens your muscles and speeds up your metabolism.

It took me about three months to get back to 100%. But I'd had symptoms for a few weeks before I checked into it.

Mine took care of itself before my doctor got around to figuring out what to prescribe beyond something to slow down my heart rate. That doesn't usually happen, but if it doesn't resolve itself, it's treatable with meds.

[metirish]

I know from seeing patients in my job that several of them that have thyroid problems all seem to have at times severe weight increases and decreases , this is a scary thing indeed that can involve a lot of trial and error with medications.


EDIT - The typical patient population we have here are older folks with other health issues too.

[MFS62]

EDIT - The typical patient population we have here are older folks with other health issues too.[/quote:2tzhnxrz]

Just curious. The quote from the Doctor above mentioned that thyroid problems can cause swings in Insulin. Are many of those folks with "other health issues" Diabetic? That can also cause muscle loss. When that happened to me, I went to the Doctor and that's when I found out that I was Type II Diabetic.

Later

[metirish]

Mostly pulmonary would be the main reason they are in the lab.

[ashie62]

ADD is treated with Adderall or Ritalin..both are stimulants..and abused by many

Thyroid issue can be a sign of clinical depression

Beyond that another sign Citifield was built on an Indian burial ground

[Guest Edgy DC]

Russ Adams' stock price just went up.

Hi, I'm Ramon Martinez, and I'm sitting by the phone also.

[ashie62]

Russ Adams' stock price just went up.

Hi, I'm Ramon Martinez, and I'm sitting by the phone also.[/quote:1sqd8wi8]


Correctamundo

[Gwreck]

I don't understand. Are there no doctors in Florida?

[ashie62]

I don't understand. Are there no doctors in Florida?[/quote:3fhx9na3]

It was NY or the doctors in LA

[ashie62]

Thyroid Disorders
See also Low Thyroid Questionnaire

The thyroid gland produces various hormones used by the body and thyroid disorders cause various symptoms. The two main types are hypothyroidism (too little hormone) such as Hashimoto�s thyroiditis, and hyperthyroidism (too much hormone) such as Graves� disease. Both conditions can be difficult to diagnose because they product relatively mild symptoms. Hence, thyroid disorders are often misdiagnosed as depression, aging or other causes of tiredness, fatigue, or forgetfulness. Therefore, a thyroid disorder is a possibility that must be ruled out in diagnoses of conditions such as depression, fibromyalgia, lupus, sleep disorders, and various other conditions. Fortunately, diagnosis of thyroid problems is relatively specific by blood or saliva tests of thyroid hormone levels. Thyroid disorders are treatable, but can be serious if untreated, so any suspicion of thyroid problems needs to be confirmed promptly by a doctor.

[metirish]

Thankfully Omar is here to explain the thinking behind the decision.

Newsday

"Our New York doctors double-checked it," Minaya said. "He was given the clearance to go by the Florida doctors here, between yesterday and today, our New York doctors saw it and after further review, they'd rather see him in New York, and that's where we are." I think it's probably they're being conservative and cautious," Minaya said. "All I can tell you is that they looked at it, they felt it was something that he could move forward and play, our doctors said, hey you know what, we'd rather if you want to use the word be more conservative, we wanted to bring him to New York. I know he wanted to go out there and play today, he would love to be playing, but I think it's better that we're cautious and that's what we're doing right now."

Got that?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Russ Adams' stock price just went up.

Hi, I'm Ramon Martinez, and I'm sitting by the phone also.[/quote:2sv0k3l7]

Reuben Tejada is 20� years old, and hit .289 and slugged .381 and OBP'ed .351 in a full season at Binghamton last year.

He didn't do nearly as well in St. Lucie in 2008. (.229, .296, and .293)

I'm hoping, of course, that Jose will be ready to start hitting intrasquad triples again within a week, but if he's out long term, might Tejada get a chance?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

How the hell do you rank a Great Communicator like that #26 out of 30 GMs?

I'm thinking that Cora may just have "earned" his vest. I'm so glad that O skipped on kicking Lopez' tires.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm hoping, of course, that Jose will be ready to start hitting intrasquad triples again within a week, but if he's out long term, might Tejada get a chance?[/quote:38dmm5qd]
Certainly preferable to see a prospect assert his qualities than a journeyman fall into a job. But I don't see Tejada breaking camp with the team under too many scenarios.

[ashie62]

Russ Adams' stock price just went up.

Hi, I'm Ramon Martinez, and I'm sitting by the phone also.[/quote:3j6zwrgo]

Reuben Tejada is 20� years old, and hit .289 and slugged .381 and OBP'ed .351 in a full season at Binghamton last year.

He didn't do nearly as well in St. Lucie in 2008. (.229, .296, and .293)

I'm hoping, of course, that Jose will be ready to start hitting intrasquad triples again within a week, but if he's out long term, might Tejada get a chance?[/quote:3j6zwrgo]


Yes..and if it's long term I've had it with Reyes, even hopefully through no fault of his own..The potential reward is not worth the perpetual agony

[Ceetar]

lenno212 Dr. Andrew Martorella, a thyroid specialist at Weil-Cornell, says Reyes' condition "very common, very treatable and completely curable."

[metirish]

lenno212 Dr. Andrew Martorella, a thyroid specialist at Weil-Cornell, says Reyes' condition "very common, very treatable and completely curable."[/quote:3vl9eb8s]


Looks like a good source too

http://www.md212.com/

perhaps he will end up seeing him as he has consulting privileges at the Hospital for Special Surgery.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Send him to Germany anyway. If he can't play until next week, who needs him? Why should we be forced to suffer so?

[G-Fafif]

Send him to Germany anyway.[/quote:1t446d6n]

Perhaps to become a more efficient baserunner?