Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 21, 2009 Author Posted December 21, 2009 It seemed silly to see Redding above Hernandez, but I checked the stats and they support that ranking. (I'd be tempted to put Maine above Livan also.)The argument in Hernandez's support is that most of Redding's production, such as it was, came too late to be of much use.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Were Redding physically able he'd have raised Hernandez several notches on this list simply by getting him off the team sooner. Maybe he had a good September but Redding to me was a complete disaster: Unable to deliver the very depth he was acquired to provide because he showed up out of shape.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 based on a very rough weighing in my head of OPS+/ERA+/defense/AB/IP1 Wright2 Santana3 Castillo4 Beltran5 Pagan6 Pelfrey7 Francoeur8 Sheffield9 Murphy10 Tatis11 Feliciano12 Rodriguez13 Figueroa14 Maine15 Misch16 Redding17 Santos18 Delgado19 Nieve20 Stokes21 Hernandez, L.22 Dessens23 Church24 Reyes25 Sullivan26 Green27 Thole28 Castro29 Hernandez, A.30 Takahashi
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 21, 2009 Author Posted December 21, 2009 LeiterWagner, I'll roll with Valdez over Cora, but no room for Sean Green?
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Green's WPA numbers-- which I looked at a little more heavily for relievers (since situation meant so much more for situational guys)-- were atrocious.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 All right folks, we all got some ‘splainin’ to do.Eight votes are in to date - plus our PotG final tally - so some sort of consensus is starting to emerge. But this season more than most has some wild variances both high and low with a number of players.Below is a list of where the submitted votes varied most from the rest of the pack. These spots are usually a good kicking off point for discussion as they can be used to lead you to either re-evaluate your votes or stick to it and instruct the rest of us where and why we’re out to lunch.And, of course, those who want to throw in their own 2 cents but haven't yet are welcome to speak up.Biggest discrepancies:86-Dreamer:- Low on Tatis, Santos, Livan, Misch- High on CoraTransmonk:- Low on Livan, Delgado, Parnell, - High on Nieve, Green, Misch, Dessens, TakahashiLWFS:- Low on Murphy, Rogriguez, Sheffield, Stokes (left off completely), Parnell, Cora, Green (left off completely), - High on Livan, Delgado, Reyes, Church, Thole, Niese, CastroVic Sage:- Low on Pelfrey, Livan (left off completely)- High on Delgado, Green, Misch, TakahashiSeawolf: - Low on Beltran, Pagan, Figueroa, Delgado, Nieve- High on PerezIrish:- Low on Pelfrey, Tatis, ReddingHigh on Parnell, Cora, Nieve, FartinezF. Knot:- High on ReddingNymr83:- Low on Stokes; Parnell; Cora- High on Misch, Redding
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I still intend to turn in my homework, sorry.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 so i'm looking through my schaeffer voting, and here's my rankings based on that:note, my #2 starter is livan hernandez. ugh! also, if i add my votes for francoeur and church, i get the 4th ranked met. ugh, some more! oh god, and luis castillo of all people is licking the heels of johan santana. my god, what had this season become!?[table:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]player[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]votes[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]rank[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]player[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]votes[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]rank[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]player[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]votes[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]rank[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]player[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]votes[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]rank[/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Wright[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]97.2[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]1[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Green[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]38.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]16[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Perez[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]17.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]31[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Berroa[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]1.2[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]46[/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Santana[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]85.5[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]2[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Santos[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]38.7[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]17[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Reed[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]16.5[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]32[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Oday[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]1.1[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]47[/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Castillo[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]84.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]3[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Parnell[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]36.8[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]18[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Nieve[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]15.3[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]33[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Switzer[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]1[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]48[/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Murphy[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]76.5[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]4[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Cora[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]34.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]19[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Valdez[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]13.4[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]34[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]AGreen[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]0.2[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]49[/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Beltran[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]63.2[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]5[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Church[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]30.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]20[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Putz[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]13[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]35[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Anderson[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]0[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]50[/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Tatis[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]61.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]6[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Sullivan[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]30[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]21[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Castro[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]12.2[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]36[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Pagan[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]61.1[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]7[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Maine[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]27.1[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]22[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Thole[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]10[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]37[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Rodriguez[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]60.5[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]8[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Misch[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]25.4[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]23[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]FMartinez[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]9.8[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]38[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Hernandez[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]53.6[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Takahashi[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]24.8[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]24[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Niese[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]7.2[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]39[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Francoeur[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]52.7[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]10[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Dessens[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]24.2[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]25[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Evans[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]5.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]40[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Pelfrey[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]51.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]11[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]AHernandez[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]23.9[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]26[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Stoner[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]5.8[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]41[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3][/td:2bo1c7z3][/tr:2bo1c7z3][tr:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Sheffield[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]50.1[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]12[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Figueroa[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]22.5[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]27[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]Broadway[/td:2bo1c7z3][td:2bo1c7z3]5.2[/td:2bo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still gotta give this some more effort and thought, but its a start. an ugly start.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 On Pelfrey , it seems I was lower on the guy that the Schaefer voting results show....I dunno but he disappointed to me. Led the team in innings as FK noted, is that a big thing on that team with the way the season went?I suppose I was waiting for the big season for him but I also forget that he's only had two full seasons when I look at his stats....I think he can be a #2 guy if that means anything but to often he seems to be not in the game.On Parnell - I guess I was high on him when he went back to the pen.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 i'm revising my rankings, basing them more on WAR, plus subjective adjustments thereafter:1. Wright2. Santana3. Beltran4. Castillo5. Pagan6. Pelfrey7. Feliciano8. Tatis9. Santos10. Delgado11. L.Hernandez12. Murphy13. Reyes14. F-Rod15. Parnell16. Francouer17. Church18. Sheffield19. Maine20. Figueroa21. Schneider22. Redding23. Green24. Stokes25. Misch26. Niese27. Thole28. Cora29. Sullivan30. A.Hernandez
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 On Pelfrey , it seems I was lower on the guy that the Schaefer voting results show....I dunno but he disappointed to me. Led the team in innings as FK noted, is that a big thing on that team with the way the season went?The idea isn’t to worry about how far you’re away from the Schaefer results. That result is just one factor thrown into this project and, as far as I’m concerned, it’s the least accurate because it’s not really measuring the same thing. The reason I parsed the votes from those who have put in lists so far is to show where there are significant differences as compared to the opinions of all the others. That isn’t to say a stray vote means you’re wrong and the others right, only that you’ve got a very different view of that player(s) which could serve as a starting point for a discussion, one where you either re-evaluate your own choices or to stick to your guns and tell the rest of us why we’re missing the boat.For instance:- What logic did 86-Dreamer use to put Tatis a full 13 slots behind the statistically similar Sheffield? Or why Maine is, in his mind, so far (11 spots) ahead of Pelfrey when the rest of us have those two pretty close? Or why he has Cora much higher than everyone? Or why does F. Martinez make his list but not Misch, Sullivan, or Castro?- Transmonk puts Sean Green in the middle of the pack while LWFS leaves him off completely! Either of them want to argue where the other one is nuts?- Maybe LWFS wants to tell us how Frankie Rod had a worse season than Church, Castro, Maine, and others, including Niese and his whopping 25 IPs.- Fartinez had all of 91 ABs and batted a whopping .176 yet he scores better than Church, Green, Misch, and Redding on Met Irish’s list. Remember, we're evaluating a player's 2009 performance here not his anticipated future or contract status.- Seawolf, meanwhile, not only finds room for Ollie but puts him on instead of Thole, Sullivan, or Niese, and ahead of the likes of Church, Figueroa, Nieve and others.- Cora was, for the most part, the starting SS and Parnell was 5th in the team in IP yet Nymr leaves both off but finds room for AndyHandy & Dessens... plus the other large discrepancies I pointed earlier. And again, if those are your choices then feel free to tell the rest of us where we’re off. Or you can opt to concede some points and argue others. The idea of this project is to have a post-mortem discussion of the year and not merely submit top-of-the-head lists and be done with it. Hell, we argue about everything else here it would be a shame to skip this topic.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 16, 2010 Author Posted January 16, 2010 Them's some headscratchers.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I'm kinda late here, but here are my rankings:[list:1aq5bfoc]Johan Santana David Wright Daniel Murphy Luis Castillo Angel Pagan Carlos Beltran Fernando Tatis Pedro Feliciano Jeff Francoeur Omir Santos Brian Stokes Francisco Rodriguez Gary Sheffield Ryan Church Sean Green Elmer Dessens Ken Takahashi Alex Cora Mike Pelfrey John Maine Nelson Figueroa Pat Misch José Reyes Cory Sullivan Carlos Delgado Fernando Nieve Josh Thole Livan Hernandez Tim Redding Bobby Parnell [/list:u:1aq5bfoc]
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Dessens and Takahashi get big love from Grimm and Transmonk but a symbolic back of the hand from just about everyone else.
Chad ochoseis Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 30 David Wright29 Johan Santana28 Luis Castillo27 Carlos Beltran26 Jeff Francoeur25 Francisco Rodriguez24 Pedro Feliciano23 Angel Pagan22 Gary Sheffield21 Carlos Delgado20 Daniel Murphy19 Mike Pelfrey18 John Maine17 Nelson Figueroa16 Omir Santos15 Fernando Nieve14 Patrick Misch13 Jose Reyes12 Fernando Tatis11 Ken Takahashi10 Jonathon Niese9 Tim Redding8 Brian Stokes7 Livan Hernandez6 Bobby Parnell5 Alex Cora4 Ryan Church3 Brian Schneider2 Sean Green1 Elmer DessensI copied the 2009 stats from bbref, gave every player a score from 1-100, where Wright got a 100 for being the best player this year (not for being especially good - just better than everyone else), and then made some judgmental changes.Parnell moved up for being around all year and for having been a successful reliever. Murphy moved up for showing some improvement at the end of the year. Cora moved up because he was really put into a position beyond his pay grade last season and did about as well as could be reasonably expected. Pagan, whose stats were (to me) surprisingly good in 2009, moved down for the frequent mental errors.Dessens also surprised me with his good stats. I moved him down because I don't remember him actually doing any pitching for the Mets in 2009.The scores I gave out mostly clustered around a solidly mediocre 75. Any of the players from Delgado down to Parnell could be switched, and I wouldn't give you too much of an argument.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 were delgado's 26 games so tremendously good that they outweigh daniel murphy's 155, and jose reyes' 36?
Chad ochoseis Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Delgado: 112 PA, 4 HR, 23 RBI, .298/.393/.521 (BA/OBP/SLG)Reyes: 166 PA, 2 HR, 15 RBI, 11 SB, .279/.355/.395Murphy: 556 PA, 12 HR, 63 RBI, .266/.313/.427I think Delgado easily beats Reyes. Neither of them played much, and Delgado was far better offensively when he did play, even considering the expected difference between a 1B and a middle infielder.It's a tossup between Delgado and Murphy. Murphy's OPS+ was below league average - unacceptable for a player who played LF horrendously and (from what I saw - no stats here) wasn't particularly good or bad at 1B. I ranked them closely, so Murphy's attendance skills roughly balanced out Delgado's offensive skills. I could see ranking Murphy above Delgado, but I don't see it as an obvious decision.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Cora was, for the most part, the starting SS and Parnell was 5th in the team in IP yet Nymr leaves both off but finds room for AndyHandy & DessensCora's exclusion was intentional, i dont give points for attendance. Parnell deserves consideration because he was a serviceable reliever before being pushed into starting duty in largely meaningless games, i'll look more closely at him when i revise (which wont be at 2am on a sunday)
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 17, 2010 Author Posted January 17, 2010 Not that I believe in the notion of "meaningful games," but if there is such a thing, Anderson Hernandez didn't get into too many of them, arriving after the first week of August.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 17, 2010 Author Posted January 17, 2010 Cora didn't just show up.Considering all the examples we had befor Jose Reyes, I'd think we could be a little more tolerant about what shortstops tend to be.
Chad ochoseis Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Just for grins, I put together a table showing the scores that we've given so far, along with average and standard deviation. Schaefer is excluded from the averaging stats.After compiling this table, I've gained a new respect for people who spell our right fielder's name correctly.I get huge spaces anytime I attempt to submit a table. Any of you guys who know something about tables have any hints? (on edit - thx, Grimm)[table:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Met[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Grimm[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Ochoseis[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Seawolf[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Schaefer[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Irish[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]FK[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Nymr[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]marathon[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]VicSage[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]86Dreamer[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]TransMonk[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]LWFS[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]average[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]St.Dev.[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]high[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]low[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Wright[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29.64[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0.50[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Santana[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29.36[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0.50[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]30[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]29[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Castillo[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27.09[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1.04[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Beltran[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26.18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1.99[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Murphy[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23.91[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.65[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Feliciano[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23.55[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2.88[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Pagan[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23.18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2.86[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Rodriguez[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21.73[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.41[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]28[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Francoeur[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20.91[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4.13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Pelfrey[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]26[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20.00[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Sheffield[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19.00[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4.67[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Tatis[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]24[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18.91[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.66[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]25[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Santos[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17.00[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.63[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Stokes[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14.18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6.91[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Maine[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13.64[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Figueroa[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13.09[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4.78[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]LHernandez[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]20[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12.36[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7.03[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]22[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Delgado[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11.64[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7.19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Reyes[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11.55[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.39[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Cora[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9.55[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6.64[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]21[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Parnell[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9.27[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6.51[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Church[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8.55[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4.99[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Misch[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8.36[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.50[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Nieve[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8.36[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6.56[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Green[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]12[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]13[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8.09[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.99[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Redding[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]17[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7.82[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.71[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]16[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Takahashi[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]11[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.09[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.03[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Dessens[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4.09[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.19[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Sullivan[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.64[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.56[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Thole[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]9[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.45[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.56[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Niese[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5.02[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]15[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Schneider[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2.55[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.59[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Castro[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1.55[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]4.23[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]14[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Martinez[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1.18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2.64[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]7[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Perez[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0.91[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]3.02[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]10[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Reed[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0.91[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2.39[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]8[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]AHernandez[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0.82[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1.54[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]5[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]S.Green[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0.55[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]1.81[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]6[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][tr:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]Valdez[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0.18[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0.60[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]2[/td:2dfn1x8g][td:2dfn1x8g]0[/td:2dfn1x8g][/tr:2dfn1x8g][/table:2dfn1x8g] Edited January 17, 2010 by Guest
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Chad Ochoseis wrote:I get huge spaces any time I attempt to submit a table. Any of you guys who know something about tables have any hints?Yes. Get rid of the linefeeds within your "html". Your table should look like one big fat paragraph. If you do that, the blank space will disappear from your post.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 17, 2010 Author Posted January 17, 2010 #MetTotal30Wright29,340.23***29Santana23,012.2528Beltran22,498.5827Castillo20,541.23***26Murphy16,813.1025Pagan15,844.4724Feliciano15,100.6023Tatis14,908.24***22Sheffield13,940.2321Francoeur13,884.7920Rodriguez12,562.34***19Santos9,232.37***18Stokes7,538.8117Church6,617.0916Cora6,313.3415Delgado6,274.4014Reyes, J.6,195.7813Figueroa5,299.5412Sullivan5,262.0911Nieve5,112.68***10Takahashi4,560.089Green, S.4,323.178Dessens4,160.29***7Parnell3,553.926Pelfrey3,547.495Castro3,529.694Hernandez, A.3,781.013Maine3,738.82***2Wagner2,902.991Schneider2,651.510Misch2,157.33-1Niese2,093.61-2Valdez2,090.50***-3O'Day1,859.30-4Thole1,765.78-5Redding1,528.65-6Putz1,450.93-7Evans1,120.99-8Reed1,091.44-9Fossum1,063.82-10Hernandez, L.1,053.60***-11Stoner868.17-12Green, A.101.13-13Perez85.41-14Broadway32.28-15Brown4.09***-16Switzer-81.93-17Martinez, F.-111.69-18Cancel-158.00-19Berroa-580.73-20Anderson-632.00-21Reyes, A.-884.70***-22Martinez, R.-1,084.80
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Does that come with a code translator or do we need security clearance first?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 17, 2010 Author Posted January 17, 2010 What's to know? I crunched them around and ranked them. Publishing my total points are useful in knowing how big the gaps were between players.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Well either I was mis-reading the chart last night (always possible ... late at night, alcohol) or that first column has been fixed because the numbers looked out of order and I couldn't figure out what was what.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 18, 2010 Author Posted January 18, 2010 No, I did find some out of order. I don't know why it sorted wrong. Sorry.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 18, 2010 Author Posted January 18, 2010 I've got Pelfrey buried. I've got to double check ihim.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 18, 2010 Author Posted January 18, 2010 Fugit. Knock Wagner the hell out of there. He's artifically boosted by an arbitrary number. Two excelelnt innings are still TWO. Scheider becomes number two and Mixch number one.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, I was gonna mention that for a guy who usually preaches the idea that those who put in the time have to be at least somewhat rewarded, you've got the 1, 3 & 4 guys in innings pitched (Pelfrey, Livan, Redding) buried behind a bunch of short-timers - Wagner was the most obvious, but also the likes of Dessens, Takahashi, Castro, etc.
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