Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Not that it's Labor Day related, but I labored over making it and now you folks can labor over answering it.It's inspired by the Jeter/Gehrig discussion in another thread, my point being that the club record for most hits (like the most HRs by a catcher record from a few years back) is semi-obscure and not really relevant on a league-wide basis ... unless it involves Jeter of course.The other thing I discovered (and what I suspected and therefore what got me started with the research) is that the most hits mark is higher in 13 of the other 15 non-expansion clubs, further evidence of the non-importance of this "event". Anyway, can you name the career hits leader for each of the 30 franchises? ... and for good measure throw in each club's HR leader too.Rules/hints:- these are franchise questions. So it counts the Braves in all 3 cities as one club, not just Atlanta numbers count. Not separate Brooklyn/LA records for the Dodgers. Ditto with their being only one answer for old Senators/Twins, one more for newer Senators/Rangers, and one for Expos/Nationals, etc.- in 9 of the 30 cases the same guy holds both the team hit & HR marks, so 51 different guys hold these 60 marks- only 3 franchises have lower hit marks than the Mets; only 5 have lower HR marks- of the 60 possible answers two are current Mets, and four are one-time Mets (six really but only if you include the two NYM answers ... duh!)- obviously the numbers are not necessary, I'll just include them for the correct answers- the obvious answers are given, leaving 57 more to be filled in- let's keep guesses down to about 5 at a time or lessTEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#HRs#METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESHITS#HRs#MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#HRs#PIRATESHITS#HRs#CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSHITS#HRs#CARDSHITS#HRs#REDSHITS#HRs#DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSHITS#HRs#PADRESHITS#HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHITS#HRs#ORIOLESHITS#HRs#YANKSGehrig2,721HRs#RED SOXHITS#HRs#BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSHITS#HRs#TIGERSHITS#HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#HRs#SENS/TWINSHITS#HRs#ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#HRs#ANGELSHITS#HRs#
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 I'll start with Senators/Twins: Carew for hits and Killebrew for homers?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Carew, no -- Killebrew, yes.TEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#HRs#METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESHITS#HRs#MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#HRs#PIRATESHITS#HRs#CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSHITS#HRs#CARDSHITS#HRs#REDSHITS#HRs#DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSHITS#HRs#PADRESHITS#HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHITS#HRs#ORIOLESHITS#HRs#YANKSGehrig2,721HRs#RED SOXHITS#HRs#BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSHITS#HRs#TIGERSHITS#HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#HRs#SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#HRs#ANGELSHITS#HRs#
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Braves - Henry Aaron, hits and homers.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 But of course:TEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#HRs#METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESAaron3,600Aaron733MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#HRs#PIRATESHITS#HRs#CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSHITS#HRs#CARDSHITS#HRs#REDSHITS#HRs#DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSHITS#HRs#PADRESHITS#HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHITS#HRs#ORIOLESHITS#HRs#YANKSGehrig2,721HRs#RED SOXHITS#HRs#BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSHITS#HRs#TIGERSHITS#HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#HRs#SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#HRs#ANGELSHITS#HRs#
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Off the top of my head.....Orioles - Ripken for hits (surely) and HRs?Musial for both St. Louis records.Pirates - Stargell for HRsBrewers - Yount for hits
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Pirates: Honus Wagner, hits
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Duh. Mays for both Giants records.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Mantle has the MFY homer record.Griffey for the Mariners.Frank Thomas for the White Sox.Jeff Bagwell for the Astros.Schmidt for the Phillies.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Straight As for FmanTEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#HRs#METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESAaron3,600Aaron733MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#HRs#PIRATESHITS#Stargell475CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSYount3,142HRs#CARDSMusial3,630Musial475REDSHITS#HRs#DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSMays3,187Mays646PADRESHITS#HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHITS#HRs#ORIOLESRipken3,184Ripken431YANKSGehrig2,721HRs#RED SOXHITS#HRs#BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSHITS#HRs#TIGERSHITS#HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#HRs#SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#HRs#ANGELSHITS#HRs#
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Mantle - No, the other four GWreck guesses are correctTEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#Schmidt548METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESAaron3,600Aaron733MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#Bagwell449PIRATESHITS#Stargell475CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSYount3,142HRs#CARDSMusial3,630Musial475REDSHITS#HRs#DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSMays3,187Mays646PADRESHITS#HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHITS#HRs#ORIOLESRipken3,184Ripken431YANKSGehrig2,721HRs#RED SOXHITS#HRs#BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSHITS#HRs#TIGERSHITS#HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#Thomas448SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#Griffey412ANGELSHITS#HRs#
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Whoops. This is what I get from typing too quickly. That Ruth guy has the MFY record.The expansion team records are fun to try to guess. Let's say:Marlins: Conine (hits) and Sheffield (HRs).Rockies: Walker (hits) and Bichette (HRs).
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Ruth obviously. The four expansion guesses are all INcorrect.TEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#Schmidt548METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESAaron3,600Aaron733MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#Bagwell449PIRATESHITS#Stargell475CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSYount3,142HRs#CARDSMusial3,630Musial475REDSHITS#HRs#DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSMays3,187Mays646PADRESHITS#HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHITS#HRs#ORIOLESRipken3,184Ripken431YANKSGehrig2,721Ruth659RED SOXHITS#HRs#BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSHITS#HRs#TIGERSHITS#HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#Thomas448SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#Griffey412ANGELSHITS#HRs#
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Todd Helton probably holds both Rockies records.
RealityChuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Pirates hits: Honus Wager by a nose over Roberto ClementeRed Sox HR & Hits: Ted Williams.Tigers hits: Ty Cobb
Guest Kong76 Guests Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Gywnn hits for Padres seems likely.Rose hits for Reds is a duh?Bench HRS for Reds too?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Todd Helton probably holds both Rockies records.Yes he doesPirates hits: Honus Wager by a nose over Roberto ClementeRed Sox HR & Hits: Ted Williams.Tigers hits: Ty CobbWagner - noWilliams - HRs onlyCobb - of course, correct.TEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#Schmidt548METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESAaron3,600Aaron733MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#Bagwell449PIRATESHITS#Stargell475CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSYount3,142HRs#CARDSMusial3,630Musial475REDSHITS#HRs#DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSMays3,187Mays646PADRESHITS#HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHelton2,109Helton324ORIOLESRipken3,184Ripken431YANKSGehrig2,721Ruth659RED SOXHITS#Williams521BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSHITS#HRs#TIGERSCobb3,900HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#Thomas448SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#Griffey412ANGELSHITS#HRs#
Guest Kong76 Guests Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) Williams hits for Red Sox ... I'll stop throwing darts for the evening. Edited September 7, 2009 by Guest
Guest Swan Swan H Guests Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Garret Anderson for Angels hits.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Carl Crawford for Rays hits.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Gywnn hits for Padres seems likely.Rose hits for Reds is a duh?Bench HRS for Reds too?3-for-3TEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#Schmidt548METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESAaron3,600Aaron733MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#Bagwell449PIRATESHITS#Stargell475CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSYount3,142HRs#CARDSMusial3,630Musial475REDSRose3,358Bench389DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSMays3,187Mays646PADRESGwynn3,141HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHelton2,109Helton324ORIOLESRipken3,184Ripken431YANKSGehrig2,721Ruth659RED SOXHITS#Williams521BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSHITS#HRs#TIGERSCobb3,900HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#Thomas448SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#Griffey412ANGELSHITS#HRs#
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Very nice on both Carl Crawford and Garret AndersonTEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#Schmidt548METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESAaron3,600Aaron733MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSHITS#Bagwell449PIRATESHITS#Stargell475CUBSHITS#HRs#BREWERSYount3,142HRs#CARDSMusial3,630Musial475REDSRose3,358Bench389DODGERSHITS#HRs#GIANTSMays3,187Mays646PADRESGwynn3,141HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHelton2,109Helton324ORIOLESRipken3,184Ripken431YANKSGehrig2,721Ruth659RED SOXHITS#Williams521BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSCrawford#HRs#TIGERSCobb3,900HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#Thomas448SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#Griffey412ANGELSAnderson2,368HRs#
RealityChuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Oops. Just realized Red Sox hits was Yaz, not Teddy.If not Wagner for Pirates hits, then it's ClementeCubs HR: Ernie Banks Hits: Billy Williams
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) MARLINS Guessing Sheffield for homers and...Renteria for hits?EXPOS/NATS Dawson for bothASTROS Craig Biggio for hitsPIRATES Honus Wagner for hitsDODGERS Hits Zach Wheat, Hrs Duke of FlatbushOE: RMPL Edited September 7, 2009 by Guest
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Andre Dawson for both Expos records.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Oops. Just realized Red Sox hits was Yaz, not Teddy.If not Wagner for Pirates hits, then it's ClementeCubs HR: Ernie Banks Hits: Billy Williams
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Two guesses for Dawson on both Expos/Nats records and all four answers are wrong.Biggio for Astros hits is correct, as are both Dodger "guesses".And, yes, Sosa = Cubbie HRsI'm ignoring that mass answer sheet. Boil it down to a few at a time.TEAMHITS#HRs#PHILSHITS#Schmidt548METSKranepool1,418Strawberry252BRAVESAaron3,600Aaron733MARLINSHITS#HRs#EXPOS/NATSHITS#HRs#ASTROSBiggio3,060Bagwell449PIRATESClemente3,000Stargell475CUBSHITS#Sosa545BREWERSYount3,142HRs#CARDSMusial3,630Musial475REDSRose3,358Bench389DODGERSWheat2,804Snider389GIANTSMays3,187Mays646PADRESGwynn3,141HRs#DBACKSHITS#HRs#ROCKIESHelton2,109Helton324ORIOLESRipken3,184Ripken431YANKSGehrig2,721Ruth659RED SOXYasztremski3,419Williams521BLUE JAYSHITS#HRs#RAYSCrawford#HRs#TIGERSCobb3,900HRs#INDIANSHITS#HRs#WHITE SOXHITS#Thomas448SENS/TWINSHITS#Killebrew559ROYALSHITS#HRs#A�SHITS#HRs#SENS/RANGERSHITS#HRs#MARINERSHITS#Griffey412ANGELSAnderson2,368HRs#
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Posted September 7, 2009 Brett for both as a RoyalDelgado Bluejay homers and Fernandez for Bluejay hitsCarter for Expo/Nat HomersGreenberg for Tiger Hrs
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2009 Author Posted September 7, 2009 Brett for both as a RoyalDelgado Bluejay homers and Fernandez for Bluejay hitsCarter for Expo/Nat HomersGreenberg for Tiger Hrs
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