Welcome Back Anderson Hernandez

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He sux and he will be injured soon... welcome back Anderson Hernandez!

Traded for minor leaguer Greg Veloz.

Either Luis is hurt worse than they though and/or Cora's thumb is worse.

Edited August 6, 2009 by Guest

[metirish]

Great glove , someone post his great catch .

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

With Castillo out they felt they needed another guy whose hits rarely leave the infield. Don't know much about Veloz but I predict this deal won't hurt the Nats.

[A Boy Named Seo]

How strange.

[Vic Sage]

wow, a guy with a career OPS+ of 60. Yes, that's much better than moving Murphy back to his natural position to see what he can do over the rest of this meaningless season.

[smg58]

He's a more experienced version of Argenis. Eh.

[smg58]

Veloz has a .600 OPS in high A. The good news is that the Mets have one less featherweight middle infielder in their system.

[Vic Sage]

no, they just moved him to the major league roster.

[Gwreck]

="Vic Sage"]wow, a guy with a career OPS+ of 60. Yes, that's much better than moving Murphy back to his natural position to see what he can do over the rest of this meaningless season.

Isn't Murphy's natural position third base?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Gwreck"] ="Vic Sage"]wow, a guy with a career OPS+ of 60. Yes, that's much better than moving Murphy back to his natural position to see what he can do over the rest of this meaningless season. Isn't Murphy's natural position third base?

It was the position he played most frequently in the minors (although "natural" is probably overstating it a bit-- he was a below-average-at-best fielder by most metrics).

I mean, hell, if the players are on board, why NOT go apeshit with the experimenting? I don't know that you're getting David over to SS ever, but why not move Murph to second, and bring up Davis (or Thole?) a bit earlier than planned to fill in at 1B? (And if they're not on board... well, isn't his supposed rapport with them counted among Manuel's strengths as a manager?)

[seawolf17]

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]I mean, hell, if the players are on board, why NOT go apeshit with the experimenting? I don't know that you're getting David over to SS ever, but why not move Murph to second, and bring up Davis (or Thole?) a bit earlier than planned to fill in at 1B? (And if they're not on board... well, isn't his supposed rapport with them counted among Manuel's strengths as a manager?)

Because you "can't sell that to fan base that still expects to win." I know that we don't expect that, but the nebulous "Mets fan base" expects to "win every year" or they're going to "go to the movies" instead of coming to the ballpark.

I say go for it, though. Seriously. Cut anyone who's not a realistic puzzle piece for next year (Livan, Sheffield, Schneider, Tatis, Dessens, et al) and go young. Bring 'em up and let 'em fuckin' play.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, there's no point cutting them when they're dealable.

As for moving hitters to more challenging positions, I mean it as much for the purpose of being more aggressive this year as seeing what guys can do for the future.

I'm not talking about going young so much as going offensive.

[metsmarathon]

if fernando tatis can get some playing time at second base, then surely daniel murphy can get some playing time at second base.

[Valadius]

I would have moved Murphy to second and Tatis to first. Andy Hernandy, in my opinion, should merely displace Berroa.

[Frayed Knot]

Met fans seem to have an awful lot of confidence in Murphy's ability to play 2nd base - a position that he's played almost none of (a handful of minor league & AFL games) and those who have seen him play almost universally think he's ill-suited for.

I think it's clear that if Castillo is out for any length of time you'll see Tatis at 2nd and Murphy at 1st as opposed to the other way around. Or now that AndyHandy is in the mix it becomes even less likely.

The only possible scenario where I see them trying Muffy at the keystone is if/when Delgado returns full time and even then it's unlikely.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I have quite the scarcity of confidence. I just think the SHaMmies are in a position where some longshot maneuvers are in order.

[metsmarathon]

its far mor of a professional curiosity than a confidence. i'd like to see what he can do there since, if he can play passably, then it opens up a bunch of options for the team. most notably, it gives him a place to play if delgado ever comes back and isn't immediately traded away.

[RealityChuck]

The team saw what Murphy could do at 2B in the ASL last winter. Presumably, they didn't like what they saw, since there hasn't been any mention of trying it again.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="metsmarathon":3ddaf08x]its far mor of a professional curiosity than a confidence. i'd like to see what he can do there since, if he can play passably, then it opens up a bunch of options for the team. most notably, it gives him a place to play if delgado ever comes back and isn't immediately traded away.[/quote:3ddaf08x] Ditto. It also makes him more interesting trade fodder-- his bat plays a lot better, as they say, at the keystone. I'd characterize my curiosity as approximately 60% morbid. (Appropriately, as I write this, I'm Hebner.)

Edgy DC Aug 06 2009 01:35 PM

="RealityChuck":hy2ujfzg]The team saw what Murphy could do at 2B in the ASL last winter. Presumably, they didn't like what they saw, since there hasn't been any mention of trying it again.[/quote:hy2ujfzg] Jerry didn't even seem to know that Murphy had ever played first earlier this year --- or that he was vastly more experienced as an infielder. After five or six weeks of Val Pascucci tearing the cover off the ball in Buffalo, Jerry confessed when interviewed he had no idea who the guy was. Sometimes we need to lobby for the team to reconsider. They don't know everything. Vic Sage Aug 06 2009 02:03 PM and some of them know less than nothing

[Guest Edgy DC]

="RealityChuck":hy2ujfzg]The team saw what Murphy could do at 2B in the ASL last winter. Presumably, they didn't like what they saw, since there hasn't been any mention of trying it again.[/quote:hy2ujfzg] Jerry didn't even seem to know that Murphy had ever played first earlier this year --- or that he was vastly more experienced as an infielder. After five or six weeks of Val Pascucci tearing the cover off the ball in Buffalo, Jerry confessed when interviewed he had no idea who the guy was. Sometimes we need to lobby for the team to reconsider. They don't know everything.

Vic Sage Aug 06 2009 02:03 PM

and some of them know less than nothing

[Vic Sage]

and some of them know less than nothing