You're Entering A World of Pain (2009 Injuries)

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Wait... what?

(Irish: care to set the odds that Franco is full of crap?)

http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/12/note-wagner-is-throwing-90-mph/

[Centerfield]

Talk all weekend long was that Sheffield would have an MRI soon. They would do it today rather than wait until they get to Baltimore, then fly him back right?

Right?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Warthen says Johan had a blister.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Paging Gus Mauch and his jar of pickle brine.

[metirish]

Wait... what?

(Irish: care to set the odds that Franco is full of crap?)

http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/12/note-wagner-is-throwing-90-mph/

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Warthen says Johan had a blister.[/quote:2cnkm3ym]

The blister was two weeks/3-4 starts ago.

I caught Warthen saying somewhere in the postgame salad toss that he thought its healing might have affected the way Johan was tossing the ball. Sounded more like conjecture than observation to my ears, though.

[Centerfield]

According to several reports, Sheffield did not have the MRI.

Stupid Mets.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Apparently Sheff is the one who said he needed an MRI, the Mets docs and the MFY doc said he didn't. Sheff may have been talking out of his ass.

In other news, it's sad to have to tell Lunchpail every day that "'Jose Jose' isn't playing today because his leg hurts."

"Is it better yet?"

No.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Apparently Sheff is the one who said he needed an MRI, the Mets docs and the MFY doc said he didn't. Sheff may have been talking out of his ass. [/quote:2adeanuy]

This in no way squares with the contemplative, circumspect, non-ass-talking Gary Sheffield that I know, and I wish you would stop telling lies.

In other news' date=' it's sad to have to tell Lunchpail every day that "'Jose Jose' isn't playing today because his leg hurts."

"Is it better yet?"

No.[/quote:2adeanuy']

That's just about as sad as a legless puppy.

[ashie62]

Any Met able to play may talk out of any orifice they desire..

Jo-se Jo-se Jo-se

To the moon Jose

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Snooze sez Maine and Ollie will oppose one another in an extended ST game tomorrow. Word is "positive" for both guys recoveries.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Looks like Phils fans will be able to empathize a bit more with our plight... at least for a couple of weeks. (Here's the thing, though... how do you tell the difference between "hobbled" Raul Ibanez running in the OF and regular Raul Ibanez running in the outfield?)

PHILADELPHIA -- The Phillies placed outfielder Raul Ibanez on the 15-day disabled list on Thursday morning with a strained left groin and recalled outfielder John Mayberry Jr. from Triple-A Lehigh Valley to take his place. Ibanez was hitting .312 and was second in the National League with 22 homers and 59 RBIs. "He was not pleased with it," general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. "[but] we have to kind of see the forest for the trees here. He stood a chance to really damage the groin if he continues to play on it, and if he does that, he could be out for a very, very long period of time, and it just doesn't make any sense for us to do that with him." Amaro did not set a timetable for Ibanez's return. The 37-year-old is scheduled for an MRI exam on Thursday afternoon. Ibanez's groin had been bothering him periodically since April, Amaro said, but it only became debilitating recently. He was 0-for-8 with five strikeouts in two games against the Blue Jays, and had just six hits in his past 31 at-bats (.194). He had noticeable difficulty running in the outfield and on the basepaths during Wednesday's 7-1 loss to Toronto. "Oh, it's affected his play," Amaro said. "When he got back on the field yesterday and played, it got to the point where the discomfort was enough for us to shut him down."

[ashie62]

Snooze sez Maine and Ollie will oppose one another in an extended ST game tomorrow. Word is "positive" for both guys recoveries.[/quote:3lg81g6g]

Remember the Maine for at least 2 weeks

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Yeah, it would be good if young Sugar Pants started hitting again-- Beltran doesn't sound quite as grin-and-bear-it as yesterday:

Beltran, who said on Saturday that he could play through the pain as long as it wouldn't aggravate the injury, had a different opinion following Sunday's 10-6 loss to the Rays. "I don't feel I can play a lot of games the way it felt today," Beltran said. "I'm a little bit worried, to be honest, because the way it was today, it was painful."

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090621&content_id=5458382&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

[Gwreck]

Ok, so, they weren't hurt, but jeez...

From Adam Rubin's Blog:

Talk about snakebit. Word is that Jose Reyes and trainer Ray Ramirez were rear-ended on the RFK-Triboro Bridge by a fire truck this afternoon while stopped. Neither was hurt.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Gary Sheffield finally did get that elusive MRI. It came Tuesday and revealed swelling in the right knee joint. Because the cortisone shot needs 48 hours to kick in, Manuel expects Sheffield will be out until Friday against the Yankees, when he should start against CC Sabathia.

Also on the injury front, SI.com reported that Carlos Beltran may seek a second opinion on what has been diagnosed as a bone bruise of his right knee. A team official said the organization�s trainers have yet to be informed, if that�s the case. Regardless, Beltran getting activated after spending only 15 days on the DL seems unlikely.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2009/06/mets-11-cardinals-0-perez-may.html#ixzz0JS2VoBPF&D

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Yes, it's speculation, and nothing more.

But it's an interesting thought/conversation point, at least, no?

http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/06/no-more-wbc-for-the-mets.html

[Benjamin Grimm]

Now the Mets pretty much just flushed $35 million down the train. $35 million that they could of given to a more capable player (Raul Ibanez).

Down the train?

It's too early to write off the full value of Oliver Perez' contract. I'm not confident that he'll prove to be worth the money, but he's only missed a couple of months. If he gives two and a half solid seasons from this point on, the money isn't at all down the train.

[Gwreck]

Yabbbut, isn't Ibanez hurt too? Any reason to think that if the Mets signed him instead of Perez that Ibanez wouldn't be hurt now? Nope.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Now the Mets pretty much just flushed $35 million down the train. $35 million that they could of given to a more capable player (Raul Ibanez).

Down the train?

It's too early to write off the full value of Oliver Perez' contract. I'm not confident that he'll prove to be worth the money, but he's only missed a couple of months. If he gives two and a half solid seasons from this point on, the money isn't at all down the train.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I think Luis Castillo, Alex Cora, John Maine, Ramon Martinez, Angel Pagan, and Gary Sheffield all got hurt this season because they didn't play in the World Baseball Classic. in fact, I'm pretty sure, Billy Wagner would be done with his rehab right now if he played in the World Baseball Classic.

[Guest Edgy DC]

minorleaguebaseball.com doesn't have a hsot of John Maine in his current team's uniform. NOt as fast on the photoshop as the bigleague guys, they show him in his old Tides hat.

[nymr83]

Mets SP John Maine felt pain in his shoulder during a session of catch Thursday and received a cortisone shot. Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports that he will out until at least the All-Star break.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Wow.

Small upside is that it challenges the columnists to find a more creative way to mock Oliver Perez than crap about the Mets tossnig $39 million into the pen.

[ashie62]

We need Ollie...Maine is no in no mans land..The season from hell

[Guest Edgy DC]

Carlos Delgado takes a baby step back. He entered the batting cage. He entered it... and stood there. He wanted to just track some balls to keep his timing sharp, but he wasn't allowed to swing yet.

[Benjamin Grimm]

At least he's ready to be intentionally walked.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

An intriguing article by the Times' aptly-named baseball writer Michael Schmidt:

Nearly a quarter of the Mets� roster from opening day � a collection of players making more than $50 million this season � is out because of injuries. In their place, the Mets have resorted to a ragtag group that includes several minor leaguers. The problem is representative of a larger trend in Major League Baseball that has left people in the sport grasping for an explanation: the amount of time players were out with injuries increased 26 percent from 2006 to 2008.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/sports/baseball/07injuries.html?_r=1&hp&pagewanted=all

[Benjamin Grimm]

Could the reason have something to do with tighter PED testing?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, you look at the things that have changed, and that's one of them. You can look at what they might be turning to --- be it a more tradtional regimen of bodybuilding and nutrition or a later, but more disabling, generation of PEDs.