WSo8M: (3) Bull Durham v. (14) St. Elmo's Fire

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Lincoln Hawk Conference, Castle Rock regionals:

(3) Bull Durham


(14) St. Elmo's Fire
(no trailer available ... shame. Here's a rockin' video instead)

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

This should be a rout!

[Guest themetfairy]

Bull Durham - no question!

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm not sure that I'll be voting against Bull Durham no matter what it's up against.

[soupcan]

Please.

[bmfc1]

We should have a separate tournament for baseball-related movies (Bill Simmons argues that Bull Durham is really a chick flick in disguise).

Having said that, Bull Durham is wonderful, even though Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone, as argued by Crash Davis. The look that Annie gives Crash on the porch in the final scene of the movies is priceless. And this is the film that gave Robert Wuhl the greatest moment of his career:

[Guest AG/DC]

I've never seen what the greatness of the movie is, and merely attribute it with goodness.

The best part of Wuhl's performance --- and the missus picked up on this before I did --- was the absolutely accurate way he jogs to the mound with a stride that makes it look like he's hustling but is actually making ground slower than he'd be doing at a reasonable walking pace.

(OE: I've probably posted that before.)

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

bmfc1 wrote: We should have a separate tournament for baseball-related movies

All for it.

I'm in the "good, not great" category for BD also. It is a chick flick, just look at the damn trailer.

I'm like, totally into St. Elmo's for its outrageous badness, with one performer chewing up more scenery than the next on down the line. It's a complete and utter suckfest so spectacular I can. Not. Turn. Away.

[Fman99]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: bmfc1 wrote: We should have a separate tournament for baseball-related movies All for it. I'm in the "good, not great" category for BD also. It is a chick flick, just look at the damn trailer. I'm like, totally into St. Elmo's for its outrageous badness, with one performer chewing up more scenery than the next on down the line. It's a complete and utter suckfest so spectacular I can. Not. Turn. Away.

Bull Durham? Eh. I'd rather watch "Eight Men Out" or "The Natural" anytime if I'm looking for 80's baseball cinema.

Sorry, but I'm back to the wank-scale and I'm giving my vote to slutty-attainable-pre-implant Demi Moore here over, uh, Susan Sarandon's weathered ass.

[Fman99]

Ha. I am the lone dissenter, the McCain vote of this poll. Nice!

[soupcan]

Fman cracks me up.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

soupcan wrote: Fman cracks me up.

I'm dying

[Fman99]

[Akeem]I am very happy to be here![/Akeem]

[Guest AG/DC]

The end of that video --- when John Parr walks around the set, sings to each of the St. Elmo's Fire characters, and they each look up from their naval gazing to smile as if "John Parr has made me see that everything is going to be alright" --- is just craptacular. It's almost felonious.

[dgwphotography]

Bull Durham - not even a contest....

[Willets Point]

St. Elmo's Fire shouldn't even be seeded, especially with Strange Brew being snubbed.

[Frayed Knot]

I wasn't as ga-ga over either of these when they first came out as the general public seemed to be -- but funny scenes at ballparks beats brats in bars any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Two asides for Bull Durham.

I went to see a ballgame in Durham in the new stadium back in 1999. The home run bull from the movie -- "He hit the bull! He gets a free steak!" -- is on display, but that really about it from the movie.

I was talking to an employee about that, and he said the team actually tried to distance itself from the movie because it was rated R and they want a family environment at the park.

Then, back in 1990 we were in Chicago playing Wiffle ball up against Wrigley Field -- long story -- and these guys walked up and wanted to play. One said he had a cup of coffee with the Twins and even had what appeared to be a World Series ring. But the other guy claimed to be the actor who played second base in Bull Durham and even did the whole conference from the mound scene.

Will and I are convinced that neither of them were who they claimed to be, but we let them play for a while anyway. The fact that the alleged former Twin couldn't hit my knuckleball weakened his case, but I do throw a nasty knuckler.

[metirish]

Fman99 wrote: Sorry, but I'm back to the wank-scale and I'm giving my vote to slutty-attainable-pre-implant Demi Moore here over, uh, Susan Sarandon's weathered ass.

This is so true and if I had read it before my vote I would have voted differently.....I will never look at Susan Sarandon the same way again.

[Vic Sage]

Sarandon was around 40 when she shot BULL DURHAM and Demi Moore, on her bestest day, couldn't lick the hem of Ms. Sarandon's garter belt in that movie. In fact, Susan is hotter today, at age 62, then Moore has ever been in her entire talentless, plasticene life.

You take on the bull, you gonna get the horns.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Bull Durham in a route. They should apply the 10-run rule to this one.

[MFS62]

Fman99 wrote: Bull Durham? Eh. I'd rather watch "Eight Men Out" or "The Natural" anytime if I'm looking for 80's baseball cinema.

But that's the point. It isn't only a baseball movie. It is a love story, and Kevin Kostner delivers one of the memorable soliliques (sp?) on love in any movie. "I believe in .... "

Later

[Theoldmole]

Not even close. Bull Durham, not Field of Dreams, is the greatest baseball movie.