The Phirst Phight Phur Phirst: IGT Phils @ Mets - 7/22/08

[soupcan]

Rockin' Doc wrote: Moral victories are nice, but I'd rather have the actual win in the standings.

Of course. I'm just trying to be able to get to sleep tonight...

[metirish]

Manuel - " it was suggested to me that I give Wagner the night off"".

[bmfc1]

Jerry said that he thought about letting Johan start the 9th but Burrell had the double.

[Zvon]

soupcan wrote: As bad as it was it was an aberration. The Mets had that team beat. Blanton showed them nothing, Santana came up big, Delgado was clutch. The bullpen and infield defense just collapsed. A loss is a loss but the Mets beat themselves tonight. The Phillies were not the better team on the field. So the Mets are one game out, big whoop. Its a 3 game set. They'll get 'em tomorrow.

Ill go with that.
I needed that too, thnx.

Those Endy plays--he was sent on those so he don't get the goat horns.
Jose's blunder and Sanchez's outting gets the nod, one horn for each.

[Frayed Knot]

="soupcan"]As bad as it was it was an aberration. The Mets had that team beat. Blanton showed them nothing, Santana came up big, Delgado was clutch. The bullpen and infield defense just collapsed. A loss is a loss but the Mets beat themselves tonight. The Phillies were not the better team on the field.

Except that they did a number of things wrong and that's something that kept happening last September too. They lost games then when they were the better team in addition to the ones they lost when they were outplayed.
Last year they were the better team for 145 games and still blew it. This year they've NOY been the better team for virtually every one of the first 100 games.

Poor baserunning, poor decisions, bad (timely) pitching and/or the inability to get the 3rd out are things bad (or at least not good) teams do.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I gotta say, the July 4 loss did more to destroy my faith than this one did.

[Guest holychicken]

soupcan wrote: As bad as it was it was an aberration. The Mets had that team beat. Blanton showed them nothing, Santana came up big, Delgado was clutch. The bullpen and infield defense just collapsed. A loss is a loss but the Mets beat themselves tonight. The Phillies were not the better team on the field. So the Mets are one game out, big whoop. Its a 3 game set. They'll get 'em tomorrow.

Your tranquility is scaring me. I hope this isn't some calm before the storm

[Zvon]

I only got one pic for tonights fiasco....

[Gwreck]

I can assure you it was at least 1,000 times worse with loudmouth Philly fans in our section.

This one was far worse than the July 4 loss.

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Positive spin:

We've still taken 7 of 11 from Philadelphia this year.
We're only 1 game out of first.
We can retake first with wins tomorrow and Thursday.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

Gwreck wrote: I can assure you it was at least 1,000 times worse with loudmouth Philly fans in our section.

Ugh, my condolences. I almost had tickets to last night's game, and I don't know if I'd be able to handle Phillie Phans after watching a game like that.

My goats, and their share of goat-milk:

1.) Sanchez- 4
2.) Feliciano- 3
3.) Aguayo- 2
4.) Reyes- 1

I had no problem with taking out Santana for the 9th. I had no problem giving the ball to Sanchez. Sanchez just shit the bed, and that was basically the ball game. It didn't help that Feliciano was also worthless last night, but I knew there was no way the Mets were gonna come out of a bases-loaded, no out jam without giving up the lead.

Sanchez was the closer last night, and when your team is in a save situation, it's nearly impossible to right the ship if your closer implodes.

[Guest AG/DC]

I think we need to put Duaner 2006 behind us. Right now, he's a major league reliever on guile alone. That's fine for what it is, but he's come back with almost none of the closer-quality nastiness that distinguished him then, and we're still trying to develop him back to the level where he can go up against another team's best in a tight spot in the late innings. Heck, yeah, I'd rather have had a tired Johan. (I say now.)

Maybe next year Duaner gets a little more back. This year, he's Don Aase.

[smg58]

I was at Shea last night, possibly for the last time. It was great fun for eight innings.

I thought keeping Santana in would have been the right move even if Wagner was available, and a no-brainer if he wasn't. I don't think Willie ever made a worse pitching decision. I don't even think Art Howe ever made a worse pitching decision.

We haven't upgraded our third base coach, that's for sure. If you send somebody to the plate with no outs, he'd better make it. At least once out of two. And even if he gets thrown out, the play should at least be close. The second time was really bad, because Chavez was held at second on his double when he'd have reached third easily.

I can understand playing shallow against So Taguchi, but Easley could have caught a fly ball hit to where Chavez was positioned. Taguchi hits a weak pop fly that wouldn't have even scored a run if Chavez was positioned anywhere close to normally, and instead it's a game-tying double.

Joe Smith did nothing wrong and winds up the losing pitcher. Stats suck sometimes.

[Centerfield]

The Mets made Stella cry.

[Guest themetfairy]

Centerfield wrote: The Mets made Stella cry.

That's the final straw!

I hat these guys.

[Vic Sage]

PHUCK!