Guest Kong76 Guests Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 I wouldn't plan on having no four-seat Sunday plan, tmf. It's season ticketholders not insert day here ticket holders.I imagine if they have "day" packages they'll be few, and based on seniority.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Yeah, I'm pretty sure Scarlett will get the chance to renew. The Mets have been pushing partial ticket plans for the last couple of years, and the carrots they've been dangling are post-season options and Citi Field seats.During the past winter I even got two phone calls from the Mets trying to get me to sign on for a partial plan. (Based on my attendance at a couple of games at Shea the previous year.)If I lived closer to Queens I'd do it. But from where I am, a trip to Shea makes for a very long day. At most I'd do it two or three times in a season.And frankly, a big part of the reason I make the effort anymore is for the nostalgia, for my childhood connection to Shea Stadium. I'm not sure how motivated I'll be to go to Citi Field.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2008 Author Posted July 25, 2008 ="Benjamin Grimm"]Yeah, I'm pretty sure Scarlett will get the chance to renew. The Mets have been pushing partial ticket plans for the last couple of years, and the carrots they've been dangling are post-season options and Citi Field seats.Ben Grimm, I think you misunderstand.The Mets have only offered Citi Field priority to those who have full season tickets. They will not even promise that they will have any sort of partial-season plan available next year.What KC said would be logical....but given that we've heard zippo from the Mets ticket office, other than "you must upgrade to a full-season," who really knows?My thought has always been that they can only realistically sell plans based on what they would have available for postseason tickets. Hence, they won't be able to sell 13-game plans and the offer all of those people tickets to the postseason, because they'll have 15,000 fewer seats available for those postseason games.What I would like to see them offer is a half-season or quarter-season plan rather than the 5 or 6 different plans they have now.Again, however, the silence is deafening from the ticket office on these issues.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Obviously time will tell. But I'm going with BG's carrot theory. They like the money up front before the season starts, and they want as many sold out games in their first season as possible, so they're going to try to get as many of the season ticketholders to re-up, one way or another, as possible. My guess is that I'll be given the opportunity to purchase four seats. The question is at what price point.
Guest Kong76 Guests Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 I didn't even plan on getting my one seat Sunday ticket next year. If I doI'll be happier than a pig eating a pile of corn on the cobs in mud.I think they'll milk every last full season opportunity until the bitter end.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 The amazin' Loge 13[/url:3hw8xkyg] was founded by a guy in the same M,W,Th plan since the mid-'80s and he regularly reports getting no Citi Field priority or love.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2008 Author Posted July 25, 2008 ="KC":zli9gdoa]I think they'll milk every last full season opportunity until the bitter end.[/quote:zli9gdoa]Agreed.Gwreck Jul 25 2008 03:32 PM="G-Fafif":1v2gsw3b]The amazin' Loge 13[/url:1v2gsw3b] was founded by a guy in the same M,W,Th plan since the mid-'80s and he regularly reports getting no Citi Field priority or love.[/quote:1v2gsw3b]Indeed. And it is a fantastic site. The party line from the Mets for the past 2+ years has been "you're either a full-season holder or you're dirt to us."** In sum and substance, not verbatimNymr83 Jul 25 2008 03:35 PM]2. There will indeed be different prices for different games. Allegedly the "value" price for promenade reserved seats will be $12. 4. That fans will still be allowed to bring their own food into the park. if thats true i'm very happy.Benjamin Grimm Jul 25 2008 03:41 PMI don't think I'll ever sit in a seat there that's not "Promenade" unless I win a contest or something.G-Fafif Jul 25 2008 03:46 PMRight said Fred (Wilpon) to Neil Best.]Wilpon on his concern over rising ticket prices at Citi Field: �It�s my personal greatest concern. Because it is partly a public trust. We will have games where you can get a seat for $10. It�s a bit of a Robin Hood. Down below people will pay significant prices but we�re going to have $19 seats, $29 seats, $12 seats, whatever. One of the reasons that I wanted this intimate small stadium like Ebbets Field was because every seat is really good, I�m telling you. You go to the last seat in the upper deck and you will not feel you are out of the field. You can hug it. That was the goal. I am concerned with [ticket prices]. I�m concerned with that for baseball. I�m concerned with that for us. But those are the economics. You build an $800 million stadium and your revenues go up but so does your [revenue] sharing. It�s go to come from somewhere.��Gwreck Jul 29 2008 11:25 AMTime for an update:CONCOURSE LEVEL (Lower level):Sterling Club SeatsFirst 20 rows of seats, directly behind home plate (between the dugouts) -- approximately 1,600 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Platinum"): $495Rows 3-8 ("Gold"): $375Rows 9-14 ("Silver"): $225Rows 15-20: $175Ebbets Club SeatsNext 8 rows of seats, directly behind home plate (between the dugouts) -- approximately 600 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"): $250Rows 3-8: $200Metropolitan Box SeatsThe four sections of field level seats closest to the Sterling and Ebbets Clubs -- Approx 3,500 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Platinum"): $375Rows 3-6 ("Gold"): $225Rows 7-12 ("Silver"): $175Rows 13-31 ("Box"): $150Field Box SeatsNext four sections of lower level seats-- Approx 3,500 seats in totalRows A-E ("Gold"): $225Rows 1-6 ("Silver"): $175Rows 7-31 ("Box"): $125Baseline Box SeatsNext four sections of lower level out to the foul poles -- Approx 3,500 seats in totalNo pricing information provided yet.Left Field Reserved / Right Field ReservedApprox 5 sections in LF and 3 sections in RF; seats in fair territory in the OF -- Approx 4,750 seats in totalFirst two rows ("Gold"):Rows 3-19:No pricing information provided yet.Big Apple3 sections in CF closest to the Apple -- approx. 1250 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.Bridge Terrace2 rows of seats above the bullpens in right-center fieldNo pricing information provided yet.EXCELSIOR LEVEL (Middle level):Excelsior Club SeatsApprox 4000 seats in totalRows 1-2, behind home plate ("Platinum"): $175Rows 3-6, behind home plate ("Gold"): $150Rows 1-2, behind dugouts ("Silver"): $125Rows 3-12, behind dugouts ("Bronze"): $115Rows 1-12, the remaining 4 sections from infield out to foul poles: $75Left Field LandingAbove left field reserved -- approx 2000 seats totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"):Rows 3-14:No pricing information provided yet.Right Field PorchAbove right field reserved -- first few rows overhang field -- approx 1800 seats totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"):Rows 3-16:No pricing information provided yet.PROMENADE LEVEL (Upper level):Split with "boxes" at front and "reserved" in back, similar to current Shea setupPromenade ClubAll boxes on infield -- approx 1800 seatsRows 1-2 ("Gold"): $60-$75Rows 3-5: $48-$60No pricing information provided yet.Promenade BoxesAll remaining boxes from bases to outfield - approx 2250 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.Promenade Reserved InfieldHighest level of seats, infield -- approx 5700 seats$20-$25Promenade ReservedHighest level of seats, outfield -- approx 5700 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.Benjamin Grimm Jul 29 2008 11:31 AMYou'll find me in the Promenade.I just hope that I can continue to buy seats two or three days before the game. I'm not too optimistic on that point, at least not for the first year or two that the stadium is open.attgig Jul 29 2008 02:34 PMugh.G-Fafif Jul 29 2008 04:04 PMAren't "box seats," with the bars separating you from those in front of or behind or next to you, kind of archaic at this point? Perhaps they won't be configured the same way as Shea's (what with the advances in construction over the past 45 years) or perhaps they're just using familiar terminology. I don't think you really see them in the newer parks.Gwreck Jul 29 2008 07:54 PMIt's just the familiar terminology.soupcan Jul 29 2008 08:27 PM="G-Fafif":2kk1ar2g]Aren't "box seats," with the bars separating you from those in front of or behind or next to you, kind of archaic at this point? Perhaps they won't be configured the same way as Shea's (what with the advances in construction over the past 45 years) or perhaps they're just using familiar terminology. I don't think you really see them in the newer parks.[/quote:2kk1ar2g]We've got 1 box (4 seats) in the field level at Shea. It is a classic box - 2 in front, 2 right behind with a metal bar on three sides.They tell us that next year we'll have four seats in a comparable area but they will be four in a row, side to side.I'm guessing the classic box seats won't exist at Citi.SteveJRogers Jul 29 2008 08:41 PM="Benjamin Grimm":3kdhwgrm]You'll find me in the Promenade.I just hope that I can continue to buy seats two or three days before the game. I'm not too optimistic on that point, at least not for the first year or two that the stadium is open.[/quote:3kdhwgrm]StubHub, Craig's List or Ebay might be the best bestVic Sage Jul 30 2008 08:51 AMPromenade Club seats, Row 3. 2 seats, please, for weekend games. Thanks.Gwreck Jul 31 2008 10:06 AMI generally despise what Wallace Matthews writes, but here[/url:i92l8bbe], I generally agree with him.AG/DC Jul 31 2008 10:11 AMI don't buy that "true New Yorker" garbage at all.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:19 AMIt makes for some stark reading .soupcan Jul 31 2008 10:28 AMI agree with Matthews. MLB seems to be trying to position itself as a luxury item or status symbol.As Joe Middle Income - the passionate fan - gets pushed out, interest will begin to wane among the corporate drones in attendence who aren't there for the game anyway.Eventually MLB will have difficulty filling those seats at those prices. It's already started.I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2008 10:36 AMWell, hopefully demand will go down, thereby pushing prices down.You have to think, though, that the next time the Mets have a season like 1993, or even 2003, (and it will happen), nobody's going to want to pay those high prices. We may see games where the lower level seats are nearly empty, and the majority of the fans are sitting in the Promenade.batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2008 10:36 AM="soupcan":3i05ouqs]I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.[/quote:3i05ouqs]Me too. Full Season ticket holder for almost 20 years. No more.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 31 2008 10:37 AMYeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:49 AM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2h1uuwrt]Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.[/quote:2h1uuwrt]John Mellencamp will be writing songs about how things used to be at old Shea.Nymr83 Jul 31 2008 10:51 AMWally:]Someday soon, spending a day at the ballpark will be the equivalent of yachting, playing croquet or pitching darts on the lawn of the family compound, an ultra-costly diversion enjoyed by the rich and privileged, fantasized about by the rest of uswhat a load of crap. there are still going to be seats under $20, thats by far cheaper than other sports. wally also decides not to point out that unlike the yankees and many other teams, the mets do, and will continue to, allow outside food into the stadium, a pretty significant cost savings for anyone who caresAG/DC Jul 31 2008 11:20 AMIt's not about the Mets, or even the Yankees. Demand drives prices up, and that's a fact everywhere. The main issue is on the supply side, even as the economy threatens to reduce demand.G-Fafif Jul 31 2008 12:24 PMSwells who buy season tickets aren't enthusiastic fans based on their being swells?The 4,000 affordable (or most affordable) seats is a scary number. All the numbers are already scary and that's in the present tense. The price on my ticket to see Billy Joel, the rarest and biggest of events for Shea, was actually less than the price on my ticket to see the Mets and Phillies last week, which was one of 81 games, even if it was a fairly big one (I was somebody's Field Level guest or I wouldn't have been sitting there). And it's gonna cost more than that? Even though I know it and have known it, wow.I can see the theoretical comparisons between Citi and MSG (all sold out to alleged corporate stooges), except there are twice as many baseball games as basketball games and Citi is twice as big as the Garden. Novelty does wear off -- April and May weeknights take up a lot of the season -- and an aftermarket infrastructure is in place, one that sometimes provides an in at relative (relative) bargain prices. It's a shame it has to be that way, but it appear it is that way.It's laughable that the "team of the people" all but dismisses walkup sales as a relic and isn't particularly interested in accommodating (that is taking money from) partial plan holders.One way or another, life will be different.Gwreck Aug 14 2008 12:06 PMThe NY Post had a story on the prices.[/url:3bny65jv]Notably, they are reporting a $19 pricepoint for promenade reserved, but I suspect that may be promenade reserved outfield and not infield.batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2008 02:03 PMYesterday, I ran into someone I know only casually and not all that well. What I do know about him is that for the past 10-15 years at least, he owned a pair of Shea Stadium field box season tickets very close to the Mets dugout. He's not renewing. According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".Gwreck Aug 29 2008 09:44 PMIn an interesting development, the other New York team announced its pricing structure today. In addition to offering full season tickets, they are offering 41, 20, 15, 12 and 11 game plans, all with postseason options (although only the 41 game plan has a guaranteed postseason option.Pricing, seating chart, etc. is here:http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium_ticket_license_plans.jspAG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:45 PM="batmagadanleadoff":24dz924q]According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".[/quote:24dz924q]What does he do?themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:08 PMI received a letter today that contained the following -]We are pleased to advise that we will have a selection of Ticket Plan offerings at Citi Field for our loyal Ticket Plan account holders prior to the general public. Two 40-game and five 15-fame Plans will enable us to accommodate each 2008 Ticket Plan holder with a Ticket Plan purchase opportunity for our Inaugural Season at Citi Field. We will communicate these offerings to you in the weeks ahead.So it looks like the Sunday Only plan is a thing of the past.Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2008 02:11 PMOne of those five 15-game plans might be heavily oriented towards Sundays.The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. Maybe one of the plans is 13 Sundays plus two "bonus" games.Please let us know when you find out more.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:17 PMWill do!Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:13 PMI have my doubts about these plans. My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options.I doubt they would do a heavily-Sunday or heavily-Saturday plan; it would seem more likely they'd want to split up the weekend games so that all plans would be equally attractive to the buyers.Also, I wouldn't count on opening day being available in any of the plans.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:14 PM="Benjamin Grimm":2vxwybpt]The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. [/quote:2vxwybpt]You don't have to guess! Full 2009 schedule is already available:http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym&m=4&y=2009Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:07 PM]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 07:14 PM="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent.Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:35 PMI'd like to make a declaration of interest in buying into a very small part of someone's 40-game plan. I don't think I can afford or commit to more than a small handful next year, ISO same, etc etc. If there's enough of us...Rockin' Doc Oct 20 2008 07:44 PMIs it just me, or does anyone else find the concern over the availability of Mets playoff tickets be almost as pointless as Detroit Lion fans worrying about their access to Super Bowl tickets? It's probably just me. Watching a good young team like the Rays has made me rather cynical of late.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:47 PMmaybe you could try putting a group together on here to buy a 40 game plan (either 2 or 4 seats) and then divide up the games.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:53 PMYeah, that's what I'm saying but I need someone who 1) is receiving this offer and 2) Can be trusted to cut the giant check.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 08:07 PMi'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM="Nymr83":27g5374t]i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.[/quote:27g5374t]You could do a proportional buy-in, rate the cost per game, and divvy it up where any potential attendee could buy in even for 1-2 games.We probably won't go to more than 1-2 next year given the cost and distance.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PMOops double post.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 08:31 PMA complicating point is that, even within a plan, not all games are priced evenly. With my Sunday plan last year, the prices varied tremendously depending on what color coded ticket price applied to the date.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 08:56 PMI have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:15 PMInGwreck Oct 20 2008 09:20 PMI'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately...John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:21 PMSpecially if you intend to collect from me.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 11:04 PMi'm not sure who here can "cut the big check" or who would be willing to even admit it if they could. we could collect at least some money beforehand, or we could look at a 15-game plan to split up instead of a 40, it really all depends on how much interest we have.themetfairy Oct 21 2008 05:12 AMIf it helps, they accept credit card payment for tickets.That just means that someone has a large enough credit limit to handle the transaction and trusts everyone else enough to pony up their share quickly.Fman99 Oct 21 2008 06:45 AM="Gwreck":f4a68j0e]I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.[/quote:f4a68j0e]Yep. My cousin and her husband are in a group in the DC area that does this with four Nats season tickets.Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 06:57 AMAre you guys talking about splitting up a 40 or a 15? And how many seats for each game? And how much would the "big check" be for?John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2008 07:09 AM2 tixx for 40 games at Citifield would be 3 grand or something at least?soupcan Oct 21 2008 07:52 AMI got two tix for all 81 games in whatever they are calling the upper deck. Don't yet know whether they are in left or right. I gave them a $250.00 deposit per ticket and they will contact me at some future date to let me know where I'll be.The total cost will be about $1,500.00 each. I'm sure I won't even be close to using all of them so if anybody's interested in taking a few off my hands, that's cool.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 02:45 PMI read thread quickly and see 81 and 40 games plans mentioned. I got a lettertoday that say there will also be five 15 game plans available to people withMets accounts in the coming weeks ahead.If I can get a 15 game plan I'd be super happy and also willing to share orjust meet for some games.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 03:04 PMRe-reading, I didn't go far enough back ... I can't keep up lately.I'll be happy to be offered something is where I was going with this, I reallythought most plan holders were going to be left out completely.(and that may have been the original plan before we all became poorer thelast couple of months)sharpie Oct 23 2008 03:59 PMI'd be in for buying into a larger plan. Or buying some Soup tix.Vic Sage Oct 24 2008 01:51 PMme, too.soupcan Oct 24 2008 02:02 PMGreat, I'll keep you all posted.Farmer Ted Nov 12 2008 11:39 AMDoesn't look like Boston is going after any high-priced free agents. That, or they have a ton of cash stuffed away.BOSTON (AP) -- For the first time in 14 years, the Boston Red Sox aren't increasing any ticket prices at Fenway Park for the 2009 season.Prices range from $12 to $125 for tickets bought after Dec. 17. There is a discount for earlier purchases once tickets go on sale Dec. 13.Red Sox President Larry Lucchino says the team knows that fans are facing challenging economic times and wanted to give them a break.Fans with contracts for premium seats can keep their ticket prices the same if they agree to extend those contracts for one year.The team plans to add about 350 seats at Fenway Park before next season.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 01:20 PMHere are the Partial Season Ticket Plans[/url:205v8hxo].Partial season ticket holders can make their purchases based on a seniority system. I'm not a long term season ticket holder, so I have to wait until December 10th to purchase my tickets.Gwreck Nov 26 2008 01:28 PMI don't think seniority has anything to do with it -- I think it's based on what you had in 2008. Order is:1. Full Season Holders from 2008 who did not renew for a Full Season 20092. Weekday Plan Holders from 20083. Mini and Tuesday/Friday plan holders from 20084. Saturday and Sunday plan holders from 2008Kong76 Nov 26 2008 02:34 PMGot the email earlier and the regular letter just now.Seems to me that if I log at 10am on 12/5 I should be able to get my singleseat Sunday ticket and if I got lucky I could get two extra seats?I mean really, if they can't give me one seat after 5-6 years of full seasonand another 5 or so of plan seasons they can gobble my turkey neck andlick my giblets.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 03:10 PMIf Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 03:24 PMI'll post an image of the letter I got a little later.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 04:25 PMGwreck Nov 26 2008 10:49 PM="themetfairy":2gwrrk6t]If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.[/quote:2gwrrk6t]Indeed. Can't believe the Mets managed to get that one right (!).SI Metman Nov 26 2008 11:26 PMyep, I've only been a Sunday plan holder for 2 1/2 years and got the 10th on my letter. Fortunately they are sparing us from going to the last Sunday game in '09.Kong76 Dec 05 2008 08:15 AMScored two seats, Sun+ plan, front row of the highest level, in the outfield. mezzman is now promresmanVic Sage Dec 05 2008 09:53 AMmy friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.themetfairy Dec 05 2008 09:56 AM="Vic Sage":f2arzhqv]my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.[/quote:f2arzhqv]It's nice to know that I have priority over somebody.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2008 Author Posted July 25, 2008 ="G-Fafif":1v2gsw3b]The amazin' Loge 13[/url:1v2gsw3b] was founded by a guy in the same M,W,Th plan since the mid-'80s and he regularly reports getting no Citi Field priority or love.[/quote:1v2gsw3b]Indeed. And it is a fantastic site. The party line from the Mets for the past 2+ years has been "you're either a full-season holder or you're dirt to us."** In sum and substance, not verbatimNymr83 Jul 25 2008 03:35 PM]2. There will indeed be different prices for different games. Allegedly the "value" price for promenade reserved seats will be $12. 4. That fans will still be allowed to bring their own food into the park. if thats true i'm very happy.Benjamin Grimm Jul 25 2008 03:41 PMI don't think I'll ever sit in a seat there that's not "Promenade" unless I win a contest or something.G-Fafif Jul 25 2008 03:46 PMRight said Fred (Wilpon) to Neil Best.]Wilpon on his concern over rising ticket prices at Citi Field: �It�s my personal greatest concern. Because it is partly a public trust. We will have games where you can get a seat for $10. It�s a bit of a Robin Hood. Down below people will pay significant prices but we�re going to have $19 seats, $29 seats, $12 seats, whatever. One of the reasons that I wanted this intimate small stadium like Ebbets Field was because every seat is really good, I�m telling you. You go to the last seat in the upper deck and you will not feel you are out of the field. You can hug it. That was the goal. I am concerned with [ticket prices]. I�m concerned with that for baseball. I�m concerned with that for us. But those are the economics. You build an $800 million stadium and your revenues go up but so does your [revenue] sharing. It�s go to come from somewhere.��Gwreck Jul 29 2008 11:25 AMTime for an update:CONCOURSE LEVEL (Lower level):Sterling Club SeatsFirst 20 rows of seats, directly behind home plate (between the dugouts) -- approximately 1,600 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Platinum"): $495Rows 3-8 ("Gold"): $375Rows 9-14 ("Silver"): $225Rows 15-20: $175Ebbets Club SeatsNext 8 rows of seats, directly behind home plate (between the dugouts) -- approximately 600 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"): $250Rows 3-8: $200Metropolitan Box SeatsThe four sections of field level seats closest to the Sterling and Ebbets Clubs -- Approx 3,500 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Platinum"): $375Rows 3-6 ("Gold"): $225Rows 7-12 ("Silver"): $175Rows 13-31 ("Box"): $150Field Box SeatsNext four sections of lower level seats-- Approx 3,500 seats in totalRows A-E ("Gold"): $225Rows 1-6 ("Silver"): $175Rows 7-31 ("Box"): $125Baseline Box SeatsNext four sections of lower level out to the foul poles -- Approx 3,500 seats in totalNo pricing information provided yet.Left Field Reserved / Right Field ReservedApprox 5 sections in LF and 3 sections in RF; seats in fair territory in the OF -- Approx 4,750 seats in totalFirst two rows ("Gold"):Rows 3-19:No pricing information provided yet.Big Apple3 sections in CF closest to the Apple -- approx. 1250 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.Bridge Terrace2 rows of seats above the bullpens in right-center fieldNo pricing information provided yet.EXCELSIOR LEVEL (Middle level):Excelsior Club SeatsApprox 4000 seats in totalRows 1-2, behind home plate ("Platinum"): $175Rows 3-6, behind home plate ("Gold"): $150Rows 1-2, behind dugouts ("Silver"): $125Rows 3-12, behind dugouts ("Bronze"): $115Rows 1-12, the remaining 4 sections from infield out to foul poles: $75Left Field LandingAbove left field reserved -- approx 2000 seats totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"):Rows 3-14:No pricing information provided yet.Right Field PorchAbove right field reserved -- first few rows overhang field -- approx 1800 seats totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"):Rows 3-16:No pricing information provided yet.PROMENADE LEVEL (Upper level):Split with "boxes" at front and "reserved" in back, similar to current Shea setupPromenade ClubAll boxes on infield -- approx 1800 seatsRows 1-2 ("Gold"): $60-$75Rows 3-5: $48-$60No pricing information provided yet.Promenade BoxesAll remaining boxes from bases to outfield - approx 2250 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.Promenade Reserved InfieldHighest level of seats, infield -- approx 5700 seats$20-$25Promenade ReservedHighest level of seats, outfield -- approx 5700 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.Benjamin Grimm Jul 29 2008 11:31 AMYou'll find me in the Promenade.I just hope that I can continue to buy seats two or three days before the game. I'm not too optimistic on that point, at least not for the first year or two that the stadium is open.attgig Jul 29 2008 02:34 PMugh.G-Fafif Jul 29 2008 04:04 PMAren't "box seats," with the bars separating you from those in front of or behind or next to you, kind of archaic at this point? Perhaps they won't be configured the same way as Shea's (what with the advances in construction over the past 45 years) or perhaps they're just using familiar terminology. I don't think you really see them in the newer parks.Gwreck Jul 29 2008 07:54 PMIt's just the familiar terminology.soupcan Jul 29 2008 08:27 PM="G-Fafif":2kk1ar2g]Aren't "box seats," with the bars separating you from those in front of or behind or next to you, kind of archaic at this point? Perhaps they won't be configured the same way as Shea's (what with the advances in construction over the past 45 years) or perhaps they're just using familiar terminology. I don't think you really see them in the newer parks.[/quote:2kk1ar2g]We've got 1 box (4 seats) in the field level at Shea. It is a classic box - 2 in front, 2 right behind with a metal bar on three sides.They tell us that next year we'll have four seats in a comparable area but they will be four in a row, side to side.I'm guessing the classic box seats won't exist at Citi.SteveJRogers Jul 29 2008 08:41 PM="Benjamin Grimm":3kdhwgrm]You'll find me in the Promenade.I just hope that I can continue to buy seats two or three days before the game. I'm not too optimistic on that point, at least not for the first year or two that the stadium is open.[/quote:3kdhwgrm]StubHub, Craig's List or Ebay might be the best bestVic Sage Jul 30 2008 08:51 AMPromenade Club seats, Row 3. 2 seats, please, for weekend games. Thanks.Gwreck Jul 31 2008 10:06 AMI generally despise what Wallace Matthews writes, but here[/url:i92l8bbe], I generally agree with him.AG/DC Jul 31 2008 10:11 AMI don't buy that "true New Yorker" garbage at all.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:19 AMIt makes for some stark reading .soupcan Jul 31 2008 10:28 AMI agree with Matthews. MLB seems to be trying to position itself as a luxury item or status symbol.As Joe Middle Income - the passionate fan - gets pushed out, interest will begin to wane among the corporate drones in attendence who aren't there for the game anyway.Eventually MLB will have difficulty filling those seats at those prices. It's already started.I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2008 10:36 AMWell, hopefully demand will go down, thereby pushing prices down.You have to think, though, that the next time the Mets have a season like 1993, or even 2003, (and it will happen), nobody's going to want to pay those high prices. We may see games where the lower level seats are nearly empty, and the majority of the fans are sitting in the Promenade.batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2008 10:36 AM="soupcan":3i05ouqs]I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.[/quote:3i05ouqs]Me too. Full Season ticket holder for almost 20 years. No more.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 31 2008 10:37 AMYeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:49 AM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2h1uuwrt]Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.[/quote:2h1uuwrt]John Mellencamp will be writing songs about how things used to be at old Shea.Nymr83 Jul 31 2008 10:51 AMWally:]Someday soon, spending a day at the ballpark will be the equivalent of yachting, playing croquet or pitching darts on the lawn of the family compound, an ultra-costly diversion enjoyed by the rich and privileged, fantasized about by the rest of uswhat a load of crap. there are still going to be seats under $20, thats by far cheaper than other sports. wally also decides not to point out that unlike the yankees and many other teams, the mets do, and will continue to, allow outside food into the stadium, a pretty significant cost savings for anyone who caresAG/DC Jul 31 2008 11:20 AMIt's not about the Mets, or even the Yankees. Demand drives prices up, and that's a fact everywhere. The main issue is on the supply side, even as the economy threatens to reduce demand.G-Fafif Jul 31 2008 12:24 PMSwells who buy season tickets aren't enthusiastic fans based on their being swells?The 4,000 affordable (or most affordable) seats is a scary number. All the numbers are already scary and that's in the present tense. The price on my ticket to see Billy Joel, the rarest and biggest of events for Shea, was actually less than the price on my ticket to see the Mets and Phillies last week, which was one of 81 games, even if it was a fairly big one (I was somebody's Field Level guest or I wouldn't have been sitting there). And it's gonna cost more than that? Even though I know it and have known it, wow.I can see the theoretical comparisons between Citi and MSG (all sold out to alleged corporate stooges), except there are twice as many baseball games as basketball games and Citi is twice as big as the Garden. Novelty does wear off -- April and May weeknights take up a lot of the season -- and an aftermarket infrastructure is in place, one that sometimes provides an in at relative (relative) bargain prices. It's a shame it has to be that way, but it appear it is that way.It's laughable that the "team of the people" all but dismisses walkup sales as a relic and isn't particularly interested in accommodating (that is taking money from) partial plan holders.One way or another, life will be different.Gwreck Aug 14 2008 12:06 PMThe NY Post had a story on the prices.[/url:3bny65jv]Notably, they are reporting a $19 pricepoint for promenade reserved, but I suspect that may be promenade reserved outfield and not infield.batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2008 02:03 PMYesterday, I ran into someone I know only casually and not all that well. What I do know about him is that for the past 10-15 years at least, he owned a pair of Shea Stadium field box season tickets very close to the Mets dugout. He's not renewing. According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".Gwreck Aug 29 2008 09:44 PMIn an interesting development, the other New York team announced its pricing structure today. In addition to offering full season tickets, they are offering 41, 20, 15, 12 and 11 game plans, all with postseason options (although only the 41 game plan has a guaranteed postseason option.Pricing, seating chart, etc. is here:http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium_ticket_license_plans.jspAG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:45 PM="batmagadanleadoff":24dz924q]According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".[/quote:24dz924q]What does he do?themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:08 PMI received a letter today that contained the following -]We are pleased to advise that we will have a selection of Ticket Plan offerings at Citi Field for our loyal Ticket Plan account holders prior to the general public. Two 40-game and five 15-fame Plans will enable us to accommodate each 2008 Ticket Plan holder with a Ticket Plan purchase opportunity for our Inaugural Season at Citi Field. We will communicate these offerings to you in the weeks ahead.So it looks like the Sunday Only plan is a thing of the past.Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2008 02:11 PMOne of those five 15-game plans might be heavily oriented towards Sundays.The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. Maybe one of the plans is 13 Sundays plus two "bonus" games.Please let us know when you find out more.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:17 PMWill do!Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:13 PMI have my doubts about these plans. My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options.I doubt they would do a heavily-Sunday or heavily-Saturday plan; it would seem more likely they'd want to split up the weekend games so that all plans would be equally attractive to the buyers.Also, I wouldn't count on opening day being available in any of the plans.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:14 PM="Benjamin Grimm":2vxwybpt]The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. [/quote:2vxwybpt]You don't have to guess! Full 2009 schedule is already available:http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym&m=4&y=2009Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:07 PM]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 07:14 PM="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent.Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:35 PMI'd like to make a declaration of interest in buying into a very small part of someone's 40-game plan. I don't think I can afford or commit to more than a small handful next year, ISO same, etc etc. If there's enough of us...Rockin' Doc Oct 20 2008 07:44 PMIs it just me, or does anyone else find the concern over the availability of Mets playoff tickets be almost as pointless as Detroit Lion fans worrying about their access to Super Bowl tickets? It's probably just me. Watching a good young team like the Rays has made me rather cynical of late.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:47 PMmaybe you could try putting a group together on here to buy a 40 game plan (either 2 or 4 seats) and then divide up the games.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:53 PMYeah, that's what I'm saying but I need someone who 1) is receiving this offer and 2) Can be trusted to cut the giant check.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 08:07 PMi'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM="Nymr83":27g5374t]i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.[/quote:27g5374t]You could do a proportional buy-in, rate the cost per game, and divvy it up where any potential attendee could buy in even for 1-2 games.We probably won't go to more than 1-2 next year given the cost and distance.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PMOops double post.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 08:31 PMA complicating point is that, even within a plan, not all games are priced evenly. With my Sunday plan last year, the prices varied tremendously depending on what color coded ticket price applied to the date.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 08:56 PMI have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:15 PMInGwreck Oct 20 2008 09:20 PMI'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately...John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:21 PMSpecially if you intend to collect from me.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 11:04 PMi'm not sure who here can "cut the big check" or who would be willing to even admit it if they could. we could collect at least some money beforehand, or we could look at a 15-game plan to split up instead of a 40, it really all depends on how much interest we have.themetfairy Oct 21 2008 05:12 AMIf it helps, they accept credit card payment for tickets.That just means that someone has a large enough credit limit to handle the transaction and trusts everyone else enough to pony up their share quickly.Fman99 Oct 21 2008 06:45 AM="Gwreck":f4a68j0e]I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.[/quote:f4a68j0e]Yep. My cousin and her husband are in a group in the DC area that does this with four Nats season tickets.Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 06:57 AMAre you guys talking about splitting up a 40 or a 15? And how many seats for each game? And how much would the "big check" be for?John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2008 07:09 AM2 tixx for 40 games at Citifield would be 3 grand or something at least?soupcan Oct 21 2008 07:52 AMI got two tix for all 81 games in whatever they are calling the upper deck. Don't yet know whether they are in left or right. I gave them a $250.00 deposit per ticket and they will contact me at some future date to let me know where I'll be.The total cost will be about $1,500.00 each. I'm sure I won't even be close to using all of them so if anybody's interested in taking a few off my hands, that's cool.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 02:45 PMI read thread quickly and see 81 and 40 games plans mentioned. I got a lettertoday that say there will also be five 15 game plans available to people withMets accounts in the coming weeks ahead.If I can get a 15 game plan I'd be super happy and also willing to share orjust meet for some games.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 03:04 PMRe-reading, I didn't go far enough back ... I can't keep up lately.I'll be happy to be offered something is where I was going with this, I reallythought most plan holders were going to be left out completely.(and that may have been the original plan before we all became poorer thelast couple of months)sharpie Oct 23 2008 03:59 PMI'd be in for buying into a larger plan. Or buying some Soup tix.Vic Sage Oct 24 2008 01:51 PMme, too.soupcan Oct 24 2008 02:02 PMGreat, I'll keep you all posted.Farmer Ted Nov 12 2008 11:39 AMDoesn't look like Boston is going after any high-priced free agents. That, or they have a ton of cash stuffed away.BOSTON (AP) -- For the first time in 14 years, the Boston Red Sox aren't increasing any ticket prices at Fenway Park for the 2009 season.Prices range from $12 to $125 for tickets bought after Dec. 17. There is a discount for earlier purchases once tickets go on sale Dec. 13.Red Sox President Larry Lucchino says the team knows that fans are facing challenging economic times and wanted to give them a break.Fans with contracts for premium seats can keep their ticket prices the same if they agree to extend those contracts for one year.The team plans to add about 350 seats at Fenway Park before next season.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 01:20 PMHere are the Partial Season Ticket Plans[/url:205v8hxo].Partial season ticket holders can make their purchases based on a seniority system. I'm not a long term season ticket holder, so I have to wait until December 10th to purchase my tickets.Gwreck Nov 26 2008 01:28 PMI don't think seniority has anything to do with it -- I think it's based on what you had in 2008. Order is:1. Full Season Holders from 2008 who did not renew for a Full Season 20092. Weekday Plan Holders from 20083. Mini and Tuesday/Friday plan holders from 20084. Saturday and Sunday plan holders from 2008Kong76 Nov 26 2008 02:34 PMGot the email earlier and the regular letter just now.Seems to me that if I log at 10am on 12/5 I should be able to get my singleseat Sunday ticket and if I got lucky I could get two extra seats?I mean really, if they can't give me one seat after 5-6 years of full seasonand another 5 or so of plan seasons they can gobble my turkey neck andlick my giblets.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 03:10 PMIf Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 03:24 PMI'll post an image of the letter I got a little later.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 04:25 PMGwreck Nov 26 2008 10:49 PM="themetfairy":2gwrrk6t]If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.[/quote:2gwrrk6t]Indeed. Can't believe the Mets managed to get that one right (!).SI Metman Nov 26 2008 11:26 PMyep, I've only been a Sunday plan holder for 2 1/2 years and got the 10th on my letter. Fortunately they are sparing us from going to the last Sunday game in '09.Kong76 Dec 05 2008 08:15 AMScored two seats, Sun+ plan, front row of the highest level, in the outfield. mezzman is now promresmanVic Sage Dec 05 2008 09:53 AMmy friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.themetfairy Dec 05 2008 09:56 AM="Vic Sage":f2arzhqv]my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.[/quote:f2arzhqv]It's nice to know that I have priority over somebody.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 ]2. There will indeed be different prices for different games. Allegedly the "value" price for promenade reserved seats will be $12. 4. That fans will still be allowed to bring their own food into the park. if thats true i'm very happy.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 I don't think I'll ever sit in a seat there that's not "Promenade" unless I win a contest or something.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Right said Fred (Wilpon) to Neil Best.]Wilpon on his concern over rising ticket prices at Citi Field: �It�s my personal greatest concern. Because it is partly a public trust. We will have games where you can get a seat for $10. It�s a bit of a Robin Hood. Down below people will pay significant prices but we�re going to have $19 seats, $29 seats, $12 seats, whatever. One of the reasons that I wanted this intimate small stadium like Ebbets Field was because every seat is really good, I�m telling you. You go to the last seat in the upper deck and you will not feel you are out of the field. You can hug it. That was the goal. I am concerned with [ticket prices]. I�m concerned with that for baseball. I�m concerned with that for us. But those are the economics. You build an $800 million stadium and your revenues go up but so does your [revenue] sharing. It�s go to come from somewhere.��
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 Time for an update:CONCOURSE LEVEL (Lower level):Sterling Club SeatsFirst 20 rows of seats, directly behind home plate (between the dugouts) -- approximately 1,600 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Platinum"): $495Rows 3-8 ("Gold"): $375Rows 9-14 ("Silver"): $225Rows 15-20: $175Ebbets Club SeatsNext 8 rows of seats, directly behind home plate (between the dugouts) -- approximately 600 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"): $250Rows 3-8: $200Metropolitan Box SeatsThe four sections of field level seats closest to the Sterling and Ebbets Clubs -- Approx 3,500 seats in totalRows 1-2 ("Platinum"): $375Rows 3-6 ("Gold"): $225Rows 7-12 ("Silver"): $175Rows 13-31 ("Box"): $150Field Box SeatsNext four sections of lower level seats-- Approx 3,500 seats in totalRows A-E ("Gold"): $225Rows 1-6 ("Silver"): $175Rows 7-31 ("Box"): $125Baseline Box SeatsNext four sections of lower level out to the foul poles -- Approx 3,500 seats in totalNo pricing information provided yet.Left Field Reserved / Right Field ReservedApprox 5 sections in LF and 3 sections in RF; seats in fair territory in the OF -- Approx 4,750 seats in totalFirst two rows ("Gold"):Rows 3-19:No pricing information provided yet.Big Apple3 sections in CF closest to the Apple -- approx. 1250 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.Bridge Terrace2 rows of seats above the bullpens in right-center fieldNo pricing information provided yet.EXCELSIOR LEVEL (Middle level):Excelsior Club SeatsApprox 4000 seats in totalRows 1-2, behind home plate ("Platinum"): $175Rows 3-6, behind home plate ("Gold"): $150Rows 1-2, behind dugouts ("Silver"): $125Rows 3-12, behind dugouts ("Bronze"): $115Rows 1-12, the remaining 4 sections from infield out to foul poles: $75Left Field LandingAbove left field reserved -- approx 2000 seats totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"):Rows 3-14:No pricing information provided yet.Right Field PorchAbove right field reserved -- first few rows overhang field -- approx 1800 seats totalRows 1-2 ("Gold"):Rows 3-16:No pricing information provided yet.PROMENADE LEVEL (Upper level):Split with "boxes" at front and "reserved" in back, similar to current Shea setupPromenade ClubAll boxes on infield -- approx 1800 seatsRows 1-2 ("Gold"): $60-$75Rows 3-5: $48-$60No pricing information provided yet.Promenade BoxesAll remaining boxes from bases to outfield - approx 2250 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.Promenade Reserved InfieldHighest level of seats, infield -- approx 5700 seats$20-$25Promenade ReservedHighest level of seats, outfield -- approx 5700 seatsNo pricing information provided yet.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 You'll find me in the Promenade.I just hope that I can continue to buy seats two or three days before the game. I'm not too optimistic on that point, at least not for the first year or two that the stadium is open.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Aren't "box seats," with the bars separating you from those in front of or behind or next to you, kind of archaic at this point? Perhaps they won't be configured the same way as Shea's (what with the advances in construction over the past 45 years) or perhaps they're just using familiar terminology. I don't think you really see them in the newer parks.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 It's just the familiar terminology.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 ="G-Fafif":2kk1ar2g]Aren't "box seats," with the bars separating you from those in front of or behind or next to you, kind of archaic at this point? Perhaps they won't be configured the same way as Shea's (what with the advances in construction over the past 45 years) or perhaps they're just using familiar terminology. I don't think you really see them in the newer parks.[/quote:2kk1ar2g]We've got 1 box (4 seats) in the field level at Shea. It is a classic box - 2 in front, 2 right behind with a metal bar on three sides.They tell us that next year we'll have four seats in a comparable area but they will be four in a row, side to side.I'm guessing the classic box seats won't exist at Citi.SteveJRogers Jul 29 2008 08:41 PM="Benjamin Grimm":3kdhwgrm]You'll find me in the Promenade.I just hope that I can continue to buy seats two or three days before the game. I'm not too optimistic on that point, at least not for the first year or two that the stadium is open.[/quote:3kdhwgrm]StubHub, Craig's List or Ebay might be the best bestVic Sage Jul 30 2008 08:51 AMPromenade Club seats, Row 3. 2 seats, please, for weekend games. Thanks.Gwreck Jul 31 2008 10:06 AMI generally despise what Wallace Matthews writes, but here[/url:i92l8bbe], I generally agree with him.AG/DC Jul 31 2008 10:11 AMI don't buy that "true New Yorker" garbage at all.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:19 AMIt makes for some stark reading .soupcan Jul 31 2008 10:28 AMI agree with Matthews. MLB seems to be trying to position itself as a luxury item or status symbol.As Joe Middle Income - the passionate fan - gets pushed out, interest will begin to wane among the corporate drones in attendence who aren't there for the game anyway.Eventually MLB will have difficulty filling those seats at those prices. It's already started.I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2008 10:36 AMWell, hopefully demand will go down, thereby pushing prices down.You have to think, though, that the next time the Mets have a season like 1993, or even 2003, (and it will happen), nobody's going to want to pay those high prices. We may see games where the lower level seats are nearly empty, and the majority of the fans are sitting in the Promenade.batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2008 10:36 AM="soupcan":3i05ouqs]I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.[/quote:3i05ouqs]Me too. Full Season ticket holder for almost 20 years. No more.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 31 2008 10:37 AMYeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:49 AM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2h1uuwrt]Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.[/quote:2h1uuwrt]John Mellencamp will be writing songs about how things used to be at old Shea.Nymr83 Jul 31 2008 10:51 AMWally:]Someday soon, spending a day at the ballpark will be the equivalent of yachting, playing croquet or pitching darts on the lawn of the family compound, an ultra-costly diversion enjoyed by the rich and privileged, fantasized about by the rest of uswhat a load of crap. there are still going to be seats under $20, thats by far cheaper than other sports. wally also decides not to point out that unlike the yankees and many other teams, the mets do, and will continue to, allow outside food into the stadium, a pretty significant cost savings for anyone who caresAG/DC Jul 31 2008 11:20 AMIt's not about the Mets, or even the Yankees. Demand drives prices up, and that's a fact everywhere. The main issue is on the supply side, even as the economy threatens to reduce demand.G-Fafif Jul 31 2008 12:24 PMSwells who buy season tickets aren't enthusiastic fans based on their being swells?The 4,000 affordable (or most affordable) seats is a scary number. All the numbers are already scary and that's in the present tense. The price on my ticket to see Billy Joel, the rarest and biggest of events for Shea, was actually less than the price on my ticket to see the Mets and Phillies last week, which was one of 81 games, even if it was a fairly big one (I was somebody's Field Level guest or I wouldn't have been sitting there). And it's gonna cost more than that? Even though I know it and have known it, wow.I can see the theoretical comparisons between Citi and MSG (all sold out to alleged corporate stooges), except there are twice as many baseball games as basketball games and Citi is twice as big as the Garden. Novelty does wear off -- April and May weeknights take up a lot of the season -- and an aftermarket infrastructure is in place, one that sometimes provides an in at relative (relative) bargain prices. It's a shame it has to be that way, but it appear it is that way.It's laughable that the "team of the people" all but dismisses walkup sales as a relic and isn't particularly interested in accommodating (that is taking money from) partial plan holders.One way or another, life will be different.Gwreck Aug 14 2008 12:06 PMThe NY Post had a story on the prices.[/url:3bny65jv]Notably, they are reporting a $19 pricepoint for promenade reserved, but I suspect that may be promenade reserved outfield and not infield.batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2008 02:03 PMYesterday, I ran into someone I know only casually and not all that well. What I do know about him is that for the past 10-15 years at least, he owned a pair of Shea Stadium field box season tickets very close to the Mets dugout. He's not renewing. According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".Gwreck Aug 29 2008 09:44 PMIn an interesting development, the other New York team announced its pricing structure today. In addition to offering full season tickets, they are offering 41, 20, 15, 12 and 11 game plans, all with postseason options (although only the 41 game plan has a guaranteed postseason option.Pricing, seating chart, etc. is here:http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium_ticket_license_plans.jspAG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:45 PM="batmagadanleadoff":24dz924q]According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".[/quote:24dz924q]What does he do?themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:08 PMI received a letter today that contained the following -]We are pleased to advise that we will have a selection of Ticket Plan offerings at Citi Field for our loyal Ticket Plan account holders prior to the general public. Two 40-game and five 15-fame Plans will enable us to accommodate each 2008 Ticket Plan holder with a Ticket Plan purchase opportunity for our Inaugural Season at Citi Field. We will communicate these offerings to you in the weeks ahead.So it looks like the Sunday Only plan is a thing of the past.Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2008 02:11 PMOne of those five 15-game plans might be heavily oriented towards Sundays.The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. Maybe one of the plans is 13 Sundays plus two "bonus" games.Please let us know when you find out more.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:17 PMWill do!Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:13 PMI have my doubts about these plans. My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options.I doubt they would do a heavily-Sunday or heavily-Saturday plan; it would seem more likely they'd want to split up the weekend games so that all plans would be equally attractive to the buyers.Also, I wouldn't count on opening day being available in any of the plans.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:14 PM="Benjamin Grimm":2vxwybpt]The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. [/quote:2vxwybpt]You don't have to guess! Full 2009 schedule is already available:http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym&m=4&y=2009Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:07 PM]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 07:14 PM="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent.Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:35 PMI'd like to make a declaration of interest in buying into a very small part of someone's 40-game plan. I don't think I can afford or commit to more than a small handful next year, ISO same, etc etc. If there's enough of us...Rockin' Doc Oct 20 2008 07:44 PMIs it just me, or does anyone else find the concern over the availability of Mets playoff tickets be almost as pointless as Detroit Lion fans worrying about their access to Super Bowl tickets? It's probably just me. Watching a good young team like the Rays has made me rather cynical of late.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:47 PMmaybe you could try putting a group together on here to buy a 40 game plan (either 2 or 4 seats) and then divide up the games.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:53 PMYeah, that's what I'm saying but I need someone who 1) is receiving this offer and 2) Can be trusted to cut the giant check.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 08:07 PMi'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM="Nymr83":27g5374t]i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.[/quote:27g5374t]You could do a proportional buy-in, rate the cost per game, and divvy it up where any potential attendee could buy in even for 1-2 games.We probably won't go to more than 1-2 next year given the cost and distance.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PMOops double post.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 08:31 PMA complicating point is that, even within a plan, not all games are priced evenly. With my Sunday plan last year, the prices varied tremendously depending on what color coded ticket price applied to the date.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 08:56 PMI have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:15 PMInGwreck Oct 20 2008 09:20 PMI'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately...John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:21 PMSpecially if you intend to collect from me.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 11:04 PMi'm not sure who here can "cut the big check" or who would be willing to even admit it if they could. we could collect at least some money beforehand, or we could look at a 15-game plan to split up instead of a 40, it really all depends on how much interest we have.themetfairy Oct 21 2008 05:12 AMIf it helps, they accept credit card payment for tickets.That just means that someone has a large enough credit limit to handle the transaction and trusts everyone else enough to pony up their share quickly.Fman99 Oct 21 2008 06:45 AM="Gwreck":f4a68j0e]I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.[/quote:f4a68j0e]Yep. My cousin and her husband are in a group in the DC area that does this with four Nats season tickets.Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 06:57 AMAre you guys talking about splitting up a 40 or a 15? And how many seats for each game? And how much would the "big check" be for?John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2008 07:09 AM2 tixx for 40 games at Citifield would be 3 grand or something at least?soupcan Oct 21 2008 07:52 AMI got two tix for all 81 games in whatever they are calling the upper deck. Don't yet know whether they are in left or right. I gave them a $250.00 deposit per ticket and they will contact me at some future date to let me know where I'll be.The total cost will be about $1,500.00 each. I'm sure I won't even be close to using all of them so if anybody's interested in taking a few off my hands, that's cool.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 02:45 PMI read thread quickly and see 81 and 40 games plans mentioned. I got a lettertoday that say there will also be five 15 game plans available to people withMets accounts in the coming weeks ahead.If I can get a 15 game plan I'd be super happy and also willing to share orjust meet for some games.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 03:04 PMRe-reading, I didn't go far enough back ... I can't keep up lately.I'll be happy to be offered something is where I was going with this, I reallythought most plan holders were going to be left out completely.(and that may have been the original plan before we all became poorer thelast couple of months)sharpie Oct 23 2008 03:59 PMI'd be in for buying into a larger plan. Or buying some Soup tix.Vic Sage Oct 24 2008 01:51 PMme, too.soupcan Oct 24 2008 02:02 PMGreat, I'll keep you all posted.Farmer Ted Nov 12 2008 11:39 AMDoesn't look like Boston is going after any high-priced free agents. That, or they have a ton of cash stuffed away.BOSTON (AP) -- For the first time in 14 years, the Boston Red Sox aren't increasing any ticket prices at Fenway Park for the 2009 season.Prices range from $12 to $125 for tickets bought after Dec. 17. There is a discount for earlier purchases once tickets go on sale Dec. 13.Red Sox President Larry Lucchino says the team knows that fans are facing challenging economic times and wanted to give them a break.Fans with contracts for premium seats can keep their ticket prices the same if they agree to extend those contracts for one year.The team plans to add about 350 seats at Fenway Park before next season.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 01:20 PMHere are the Partial Season Ticket Plans[/url:205v8hxo].Partial season ticket holders can make their purchases based on a seniority system. I'm not a long term season ticket holder, so I have to wait until December 10th to purchase my tickets.Gwreck Nov 26 2008 01:28 PMI don't think seniority has anything to do with it -- I think it's based on what you had in 2008. Order is:1. Full Season Holders from 2008 who did not renew for a Full Season 20092. Weekday Plan Holders from 20083. Mini and Tuesday/Friday plan holders from 20084. Saturday and Sunday plan holders from 2008Kong76 Nov 26 2008 02:34 PMGot the email earlier and the regular letter just now.Seems to me that if I log at 10am on 12/5 I should be able to get my singleseat Sunday ticket and if I got lucky I could get two extra seats?I mean really, if they can't give me one seat after 5-6 years of full seasonand another 5 or so of plan seasons they can gobble my turkey neck andlick my giblets.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 03:10 PMIf Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 03:24 PMI'll post an image of the letter I got a little later.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 04:25 PMGwreck Nov 26 2008 10:49 PM="themetfairy":2gwrrk6t]If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.[/quote:2gwrrk6t]Indeed. Can't believe the Mets managed to get that one right (!).SI Metman Nov 26 2008 11:26 PMyep, I've only been a Sunday plan holder for 2 1/2 years and got the 10th on my letter. Fortunately they are sparing us from going to the last Sunday game in '09.Kong76 Dec 05 2008 08:15 AMScored two seats, Sun+ plan, front row of the highest level, in the outfield. mezzman is now promresmanVic Sage Dec 05 2008 09:53 AMmy friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.themetfairy Dec 05 2008 09:56 AM="Vic Sage":f2arzhqv]my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.[/quote:f2arzhqv]It's nice to know that I have priority over somebody.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 ="Benjamin Grimm":3kdhwgrm]You'll find me in the Promenade.I just hope that I can continue to buy seats two or three days before the game. I'm not too optimistic on that point, at least not for the first year or two that the stadium is open.[/quote:3kdhwgrm]StubHub, Craig's List or Ebay might be the best bestVic Sage Jul 30 2008 08:51 AMPromenade Club seats, Row 3. 2 seats, please, for weekend games. Thanks.Gwreck Jul 31 2008 10:06 AMI generally despise what Wallace Matthews writes, but here[/url:i92l8bbe], I generally agree with him.AG/DC Jul 31 2008 10:11 AMI don't buy that "true New Yorker" garbage at all.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:19 AMIt makes for some stark reading .soupcan Jul 31 2008 10:28 AMI agree with Matthews. MLB seems to be trying to position itself as a luxury item or status symbol.As Joe Middle Income - the passionate fan - gets pushed out, interest will begin to wane among the corporate drones in attendence who aren't there for the game anyway.Eventually MLB will have difficulty filling those seats at those prices. It's already started.I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2008 10:36 AMWell, hopefully demand will go down, thereby pushing prices down.You have to think, though, that the next time the Mets have a season like 1993, or even 2003, (and it will happen), nobody's going to want to pay those high prices. We may see games where the lower level seats are nearly empty, and the majority of the fans are sitting in the Promenade.batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2008 10:36 AM="soupcan":3i05ouqs]I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.[/quote:3i05ouqs]Me too. Full Season ticket holder for almost 20 years. No more.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 31 2008 10:37 AMYeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:49 AM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2h1uuwrt]Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.[/quote:2h1uuwrt]John Mellencamp will be writing songs about how things used to be at old Shea.Nymr83 Jul 31 2008 10:51 AMWally:]Someday soon, spending a day at the ballpark will be the equivalent of yachting, playing croquet or pitching darts on the lawn of the family compound, an ultra-costly diversion enjoyed by the rich and privileged, fantasized about by the rest of uswhat a load of crap. there are still going to be seats under $20, thats by far cheaper than other sports. wally also decides not to point out that unlike the yankees and many other teams, the mets do, and will continue to, allow outside food into the stadium, a pretty significant cost savings for anyone who caresAG/DC Jul 31 2008 11:20 AMIt's not about the Mets, or even the Yankees. Demand drives prices up, and that's a fact everywhere. The main issue is on the supply side, even as the economy threatens to reduce demand.G-Fafif Jul 31 2008 12:24 PMSwells who buy season tickets aren't enthusiastic fans based on their being swells?The 4,000 affordable (or most affordable) seats is a scary number. All the numbers are already scary and that's in the present tense. The price on my ticket to see Billy Joel, the rarest and biggest of events for Shea, was actually less than the price on my ticket to see the Mets and Phillies last week, which was one of 81 games, even if it was a fairly big one (I was somebody's Field Level guest or I wouldn't have been sitting there). And it's gonna cost more than that? Even though I know it and have known it, wow.I can see the theoretical comparisons between Citi and MSG (all sold out to alleged corporate stooges), except there are twice as many baseball games as basketball games and Citi is twice as big as the Garden. Novelty does wear off -- April and May weeknights take up a lot of the season -- and an aftermarket infrastructure is in place, one that sometimes provides an in at relative (relative) bargain prices. It's a shame it has to be that way, but it appear it is that way.It's laughable that the "team of the people" all but dismisses walkup sales as a relic and isn't particularly interested in accommodating (that is taking money from) partial plan holders.One way or another, life will be different.Gwreck Aug 14 2008 12:06 PMThe NY Post had a story on the prices.[/url:3bny65jv]Notably, they are reporting a $19 pricepoint for promenade reserved, but I suspect that may be promenade reserved outfield and not infield.batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2008 02:03 PMYesterday, I ran into someone I know only casually and not all that well. What I do know about him is that for the past 10-15 years at least, he owned a pair of Shea Stadium field box season tickets very close to the Mets dugout. He's not renewing. According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".Gwreck Aug 29 2008 09:44 PMIn an interesting development, the other New York team announced its pricing structure today. In addition to offering full season tickets, they are offering 41, 20, 15, 12 and 11 game plans, all with postseason options (although only the 41 game plan has a guaranteed postseason option.Pricing, seating chart, etc. is here:http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium_ticket_license_plans.jspAG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:45 PM="batmagadanleadoff":24dz924q]According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".[/quote:24dz924q]What does he do?themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:08 PMI received a letter today that contained the following -]We are pleased to advise that we will have a selection of Ticket Plan offerings at Citi Field for our loyal Ticket Plan account holders prior to the general public. Two 40-game and five 15-fame Plans will enable us to accommodate each 2008 Ticket Plan holder with a Ticket Plan purchase opportunity for our Inaugural Season at Citi Field. We will communicate these offerings to you in the weeks ahead.So it looks like the Sunday Only plan is a thing of the past.Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2008 02:11 PMOne of those five 15-game plans might be heavily oriented towards Sundays.The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. Maybe one of the plans is 13 Sundays plus two "bonus" games.Please let us know when you find out more.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:17 PMWill do!Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:13 PMI have my doubts about these plans. My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options.I doubt they would do a heavily-Sunday or heavily-Saturday plan; it would seem more likely they'd want to split up the weekend games so that all plans would be equally attractive to the buyers.Also, I wouldn't count on opening day being available in any of the plans.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:14 PM="Benjamin Grimm":2vxwybpt]The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. [/quote:2vxwybpt]You don't have to guess! Full 2009 schedule is already available:http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym&m=4&y=2009Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:07 PM]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 07:14 PM="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent.Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:35 PMI'd like to make a declaration of interest in buying into a very small part of someone's 40-game plan. I don't think I can afford or commit to more than a small handful next year, ISO same, etc etc. If there's enough of us...Rockin' Doc Oct 20 2008 07:44 PMIs it just me, or does anyone else find the concern over the availability of Mets playoff tickets be almost as pointless as Detroit Lion fans worrying about their access to Super Bowl tickets? It's probably just me. Watching a good young team like the Rays has made me rather cynical of late.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:47 PMmaybe you could try putting a group together on here to buy a 40 game plan (either 2 or 4 seats) and then divide up the games.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:53 PMYeah, that's what I'm saying but I need someone who 1) is receiving this offer and 2) Can be trusted to cut the giant check.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 08:07 PMi'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM="Nymr83":27g5374t]i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.[/quote:27g5374t]You could do a proportional buy-in, rate the cost per game, and divvy it up where any potential attendee could buy in even for 1-2 games.We probably won't go to more than 1-2 next year given the cost and distance.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PMOops double post.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 08:31 PMA complicating point is that, even within a plan, not all games are priced evenly. With my Sunday plan last year, the prices varied tremendously depending on what color coded ticket price applied to the date.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 08:56 PMI have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:15 PMInGwreck Oct 20 2008 09:20 PMI'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately...John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:21 PMSpecially if you intend to collect from me.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 11:04 PMi'm not sure who here can "cut the big check" or who would be willing to even admit it if they could. we could collect at least some money beforehand, or we could look at a 15-game plan to split up instead of a 40, it really all depends on how much interest we have.themetfairy Oct 21 2008 05:12 AMIf it helps, they accept credit card payment for tickets.That just means that someone has a large enough credit limit to handle the transaction and trusts everyone else enough to pony up their share quickly.Fman99 Oct 21 2008 06:45 AM="Gwreck":f4a68j0e]I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.[/quote:f4a68j0e]Yep. My cousin and her husband are in a group in the DC area that does this with four Nats season tickets.Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 06:57 AMAre you guys talking about splitting up a 40 or a 15? And how many seats for each game? And how much would the "big check" be for?John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2008 07:09 AM2 tixx for 40 games at Citifield would be 3 grand or something at least?soupcan Oct 21 2008 07:52 AMI got two tix for all 81 games in whatever they are calling the upper deck. Don't yet know whether they are in left or right. I gave them a $250.00 deposit per ticket and they will contact me at some future date to let me know where I'll be.The total cost will be about $1,500.00 each. I'm sure I won't even be close to using all of them so if anybody's interested in taking a few off my hands, that's cool.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 02:45 PMI read thread quickly and see 81 and 40 games plans mentioned. I got a lettertoday that say there will also be five 15 game plans available to people withMets accounts in the coming weeks ahead.If I can get a 15 game plan I'd be super happy and also willing to share orjust meet for some games.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 03:04 PMRe-reading, I didn't go far enough back ... I can't keep up lately.I'll be happy to be offered something is where I was going with this, I reallythought most plan holders were going to be left out completely.(and that may have been the original plan before we all became poorer thelast couple of months)sharpie Oct 23 2008 03:59 PMI'd be in for buying into a larger plan. Or buying some Soup tix.Vic Sage Oct 24 2008 01:51 PMme, too.soupcan Oct 24 2008 02:02 PMGreat, I'll keep you all posted.Farmer Ted Nov 12 2008 11:39 AMDoesn't look like Boston is going after any high-priced free agents. That, or they have a ton of cash stuffed away.BOSTON (AP) -- For the first time in 14 years, the Boston Red Sox aren't increasing any ticket prices at Fenway Park for the 2009 season.Prices range from $12 to $125 for tickets bought after Dec. 17. There is a discount for earlier purchases once tickets go on sale Dec. 13.Red Sox President Larry Lucchino says the team knows that fans are facing challenging economic times and wanted to give them a break.Fans with contracts for premium seats can keep their ticket prices the same if they agree to extend those contracts for one year.The team plans to add about 350 seats at Fenway Park before next season.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 01:20 PMHere are the Partial Season Ticket Plans[/url:205v8hxo].Partial season ticket holders can make their purchases based on a seniority system. I'm not a long term season ticket holder, so I have to wait until December 10th to purchase my tickets.Gwreck Nov 26 2008 01:28 PMI don't think seniority has anything to do with it -- I think it's based on what you had in 2008. Order is:1. Full Season Holders from 2008 who did not renew for a Full Season 20092. Weekday Plan Holders from 20083. Mini and Tuesday/Friday plan holders from 20084. Saturday and Sunday plan holders from 2008Kong76 Nov 26 2008 02:34 PMGot the email earlier and the regular letter just now.Seems to me that if I log at 10am on 12/5 I should be able to get my singleseat Sunday ticket and if I got lucky I could get two extra seats?I mean really, if they can't give me one seat after 5-6 years of full seasonand another 5 or so of plan seasons they can gobble my turkey neck andlick my giblets.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 03:10 PMIf Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 03:24 PMI'll post an image of the letter I got a little later.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 04:25 PMGwreck Nov 26 2008 10:49 PM="themetfairy":2gwrrk6t]If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.[/quote:2gwrrk6t]Indeed. Can't believe the Mets managed to get that one right (!).SI Metman Nov 26 2008 11:26 PMyep, I've only been a Sunday plan holder for 2 1/2 years and got the 10th on my letter. Fortunately they are sparing us from going to the last Sunday game in '09.Kong76 Dec 05 2008 08:15 AMScored two seats, Sun+ plan, front row of the highest level, in the outfield. mezzman is now promresmanVic Sage Dec 05 2008 09:53 AMmy friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.themetfairy Dec 05 2008 09:56 AM="Vic Sage":f2arzhqv]my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.[/quote:f2arzhqv]It's nice to know that I have priority over somebody.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Promenade Club seats, Row 3. 2 seats, please, for weekend games. Thanks.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2008 Author Posted July 31, 2008 I generally despise what Wallace Matthews writes, but here[/url:i92l8bbe], I generally agree with him.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 I don't buy that "true New Yorker" garbage at all.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 It makes for some stark reading .
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 I agree with Matthews. MLB seems to be trying to position itself as a luxury item or status symbol.As Joe Middle Income - the passionate fan - gets pushed out, interest will begin to wane among the corporate drones in attendence who aren't there for the game anyway.Eventually MLB will have difficulty filling those seats at those prices. It's already started.I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Well, hopefully demand will go down, thereby pushing prices down.You have to think, though, that the next time the Mets have a season like 1993, or even 2003, (and it will happen), nobody's going to want to pay those high prices. We may see games where the lower level seats are nearly empty, and the majority of the fans are sitting in the Promenade.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 ="soupcan":3i05ouqs]I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.[/quote:3i05ouqs]Me too. Full Season ticket holder for almost 20 years. No more.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 31 2008 10:37 AMYeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.metirish Jul 31 2008 10:49 AM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2h1uuwrt]Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.[/quote:2h1uuwrt]John Mellencamp will be writing songs about how things used to be at old Shea.Nymr83 Jul 31 2008 10:51 AMWally:]Someday soon, spending a day at the ballpark will be the equivalent of yachting, playing croquet or pitching darts on the lawn of the family compound, an ultra-costly diversion enjoyed by the rich and privileged, fantasized about by the rest of uswhat a load of crap. there are still going to be seats under $20, thats by far cheaper than other sports. wally also decides not to point out that unlike the yankees and many other teams, the mets do, and will continue to, allow outside food into the stadium, a pretty significant cost savings for anyone who caresAG/DC Jul 31 2008 11:20 AMIt's not about the Mets, or even the Yankees. Demand drives prices up, and that's a fact everywhere. The main issue is on the supply side, even as the economy threatens to reduce demand.G-Fafif Jul 31 2008 12:24 PMSwells who buy season tickets aren't enthusiastic fans based on their being swells?The 4,000 affordable (or most affordable) seats is a scary number. All the numbers are already scary and that's in the present tense. The price on my ticket to see Billy Joel, the rarest and biggest of events for Shea, was actually less than the price on my ticket to see the Mets and Phillies last week, which was one of 81 games, even if it was a fairly big one (I was somebody's Field Level guest or I wouldn't have been sitting there). And it's gonna cost more than that? Even though I know it and have known it, wow.I can see the theoretical comparisons between Citi and MSG (all sold out to alleged corporate stooges), except there are twice as many baseball games as basketball games and Citi is twice as big as the Garden. Novelty does wear off -- April and May weeknights take up a lot of the season -- and an aftermarket infrastructure is in place, one that sometimes provides an in at relative (relative) bargain prices. It's a shame it has to be that way, but it appear it is that way.It's laughable that the "team of the people" all but dismisses walkup sales as a relic and isn't particularly interested in accommodating (that is taking money from) partial plan holders.One way or another, life will be different.Gwreck Aug 14 2008 12:06 PMThe NY Post had a story on the prices.[/url:3bny65jv]Notably, they are reporting a $19 pricepoint for promenade reserved, but I suspect that may be promenade reserved outfield and not infield.batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2008 02:03 PMYesterday, I ran into someone I know only casually and not all that well. What I do know about him is that for the past 10-15 years at least, he owned a pair of Shea Stadium field box season tickets very close to the Mets dugout. He's not renewing. According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".Gwreck Aug 29 2008 09:44 PMIn an interesting development, the other New York team announced its pricing structure today. In addition to offering full season tickets, they are offering 41, 20, 15, 12 and 11 game plans, all with postseason options (although only the 41 game plan has a guaranteed postseason option.Pricing, seating chart, etc. is here:http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium_ticket_license_plans.jspAG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:45 PM="batmagadanleadoff":24dz924q]According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".[/quote:24dz924q]What does he do?themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:08 PMI received a letter today that contained the following -]We are pleased to advise that we will have a selection of Ticket Plan offerings at Citi Field for our loyal Ticket Plan account holders prior to the general public. Two 40-game and five 15-fame Plans will enable us to accommodate each 2008 Ticket Plan holder with a Ticket Plan purchase opportunity for our Inaugural Season at Citi Field. We will communicate these offerings to you in the weeks ahead.So it looks like the Sunday Only plan is a thing of the past.Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2008 02:11 PMOne of those five 15-game plans might be heavily oriented towards Sundays.The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. Maybe one of the plans is 13 Sundays plus two "bonus" games.Please let us know when you find out more.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:17 PMWill do!Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:13 PMI have my doubts about these plans. My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options.I doubt they would do a heavily-Sunday or heavily-Saturday plan; it would seem more likely they'd want to split up the weekend games so that all plans would be equally attractive to the buyers.Also, I wouldn't count on opening day being available in any of the plans.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:14 PM="Benjamin Grimm":2vxwybpt]The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. [/quote:2vxwybpt]You don't have to guess! Full 2009 schedule is already available:http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym&m=4&y=2009Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:07 PM]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 07:14 PM="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent.Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:35 PMI'd like to make a declaration of interest in buying into a very small part of someone's 40-game plan. I don't think I can afford or commit to more than a small handful next year, ISO same, etc etc. If there's enough of us...Rockin' Doc Oct 20 2008 07:44 PMIs it just me, or does anyone else find the concern over the availability of Mets playoff tickets be almost as pointless as Detroit Lion fans worrying about their access to Super Bowl tickets? It's probably just me. Watching a good young team like the Rays has made me rather cynical of late.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:47 PMmaybe you could try putting a group together on here to buy a 40 game plan (either 2 or 4 seats) and then divide up the games.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:53 PMYeah, that's what I'm saying but I need someone who 1) is receiving this offer and 2) Can be trusted to cut the giant check.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 08:07 PMi'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM="Nymr83":27g5374t]i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.[/quote:27g5374t]You could do a proportional buy-in, rate the cost per game, and divvy it up where any potential attendee could buy in even for 1-2 games.We probably won't go to more than 1-2 next year given the cost and distance.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PMOops double post.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 08:31 PMA complicating point is that, even within a plan, not all games are priced evenly. With my Sunday plan last year, the prices varied tremendously depending on what color coded ticket price applied to the date.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 08:56 PMI have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:15 PMInGwreck Oct 20 2008 09:20 PMI'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately...John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:21 PMSpecially if you intend to collect from me.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 11:04 PMi'm not sure who here can "cut the big check" or who would be willing to even admit it if they could. we could collect at least some money beforehand, or we could look at a 15-game plan to split up instead of a 40, it really all depends on how much interest we have.themetfairy Oct 21 2008 05:12 AMIf it helps, they accept credit card payment for tickets.That just means that someone has a large enough credit limit to handle the transaction and trusts everyone else enough to pony up their share quickly.Fman99 Oct 21 2008 06:45 AM="Gwreck":f4a68j0e]I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.[/quote:f4a68j0e]Yep. My cousin and her husband are in a group in the DC area that does this with four Nats season tickets.Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 06:57 AMAre you guys talking about splitting up a 40 or a 15? And how many seats for each game? And how much would the "big check" be for?John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2008 07:09 AM2 tixx for 40 games at Citifield would be 3 grand or something at least?soupcan Oct 21 2008 07:52 AMI got two tix for all 81 games in whatever they are calling the upper deck. Don't yet know whether they are in left or right. I gave them a $250.00 deposit per ticket and they will contact me at some future date to let me know where I'll be.The total cost will be about $1,500.00 each. I'm sure I won't even be close to using all of them so if anybody's interested in taking a few off my hands, that's cool.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 02:45 PMI read thread quickly and see 81 and 40 games plans mentioned. I got a lettertoday that say there will also be five 15 game plans available to people withMets accounts in the coming weeks ahead.If I can get a 15 game plan I'd be super happy and also willing to share orjust meet for some games.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 03:04 PMRe-reading, I didn't go far enough back ... I can't keep up lately.I'll be happy to be offered something is where I was going with this, I reallythought most plan holders were going to be left out completely.(and that may have been the original plan before we all became poorer thelast couple of months)sharpie Oct 23 2008 03:59 PMI'd be in for buying into a larger plan. Or buying some Soup tix.Vic Sage Oct 24 2008 01:51 PMme, too.soupcan Oct 24 2008 02:02 PMGreat, I'll keep you all posted.Farmer Ted Nov 12 2008 11:39 AMDoesn't look like Boston is going after any high-priced free agents. That, or they have a ton of cash stuffed away.BOSTON (AP) -- For the first time in 14 years, the Boston Red Sox aren't increasing any ticket prices at Fenway Park for the 2009 season.Prices range from $12 to $125 for tickets bought after Dec. 17. There is a discount for earlier purchases once tickets go on sale Dec. 13.Red Sox President Larry Lucchino says the team knows that fans are facing challenging economic times and wanted to give them a break.Fans with contracts for premium seats can keep their ticket prices the same if they agree to extend those contracts for one year.The team plans to add about 350 seats at Fenway Park before next season.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 01:20 PMHere are the Partial Season Ticket Plans[/url:205v8hxo].Partial season ticket holders can make their purchases based on a seniority system. I'm not a long term season ticket holder, so I have to wait until December 10th to purchase my tickets.Gwreck Nov 26 2008 01:28 PMI don't think seniority has anything to do with it -- I think it's based on what you had in 2008. Order is:1. Full Season Holders from 2008 who did not renew for a Full Season 20092. Weekday Plan Holders from 20083. Mini and Tuesday/Friday plan holders from 20084. Saturday and Sunday plan holders from 2008Kong76 Nov 26 2008 02:34 PMGot the email earlier and the regular letter just now.Seems to me that if I log at 10am on 12/5 I should be able to get my singleseat Sunday ticket and if I got lucky I could get two extra seats?I mean really, if they can't give me one seat after 5-6 years of full seasonand another 5 or so of plan seasons they can gobble my turkey neck andlick my giblets.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 03:10 PMIf Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 03:24 PMI'll post an image of the letter I got a little later.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 04:25 PMGwreck Nov 26 2008 10:49 PM="themetfairy":2gwrrk6t]If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.[/quote:2gwrrk6t]Indeed. Can't believe the Mets managed to get that one right (!).SI Metman Nov 26 2008 11:26 PMyep, I've only been a Sunday plan holder for 2 1/2 years and got the 10th on my letter. Fortunately they are sparing us from going to the last Sunday game in '09.Kong76 Dec 05 2008 08:15 AMScored two seats, Sun+ plan, front row of the highest level, in the outfield. mezzman is now promresmanVic Sage Dec 05 2008 09:53 AMmy friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.themetfairy Dec 05 2008 09:56 AM="Vic Sage":f2arzhqv]my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.[/quote:f2arzhqv]It's nice to know that I have priority over somebody.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2h1uuwrt]Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes).It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.[/quote:2h1uuwrt]John Mellencamp will be writing songs about how things used to be at old Shea.Nymr83 Jul 31 2008 10:51 AMWally:]Someday soon, spending a day at the ballpark will be the equivalent of yachting, playing croquet or pitching darts on the lawn of the family compound, an ultra-costly diversion enjoyed by the rich and privileged, fantasized about by the rest of uswhat a load of crap. there are still going to be seats under $20, thats by far cheaper than other sports. wally also decides not to point out that unlike the yankees and many other teams, the mets do, and will continue to, allow outside food into the stadium, a pretty significant cost savings for anyone who caresAG/DC Jul 31 2008 11:20 AMIt's not about the Mets, or even the Yankees. Demand drives prices up, and that's a fact everywhere. The main issue is on the supply side, even as the economy threatens to reduce demand.G-Fafif Jul 31 2008 12:24 PMSwells who buy season tickets aren't enthusiastic fans based on their being swells?The 4,000 affordable (or most affordable) seats is a scary number. All the numbers are already scary and that's in the present tense. The price on my ticket to see Billy Joel, the rarest and biggest of events for Shea, was actually less than the price on my ticket to see the Mets and Phillies last week, which was one of 81 games, even if it was a fairly big one (I was somebody's Field Level guest or I wouldn't have been sitting there). And it's gonna cost more than that? Even though I know it and have known it, wow.I can see the theoretical comparisons between Citi and MSG (all sold out to alleged corporate stooges), except there are twice as many baseball games as basketball games and Citi is twice as big as the Garden. Novelty does wear off -- April and May weeknights take up a lot of the season -- and an aftermarket infrastructure is in place, one that sometimes provides an in at relative (relative) bargain prices. It's a shame it has to be that way, but it appear it is that way.It's laughable that the "team of the people" all but dismisses walkup sales as a relic and isn't particularly interested in accommodating (that is taking money from) partial plan holders.One way or another, life will be different.Gwreck Aug 14 2008 12:06 PMThe NY Post had a story on the prices.[/url:3bny65jv]Notably, they are reporting a $19 pricepoint for promenade reserved, but I suspect that may be promenade reserved outfield and not infield.batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2008 02:03 PMYesterday, I ran into someone I know only casually and not all that well. What I do know about him is that for the past 10-15 years at least, he owned a pair of Shea Stadium field box season tickets very close to the Mets dugout. He's not renewing. According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".Gwreck Aug 29 2008 09:44 PMIn an interesting development, the other New York team announced its pricing structure today. In addition to offering full season tickets, they are offering 41, 20, 15, 12 and 11 game plans, all with postseason options (although only the 41 game plan has a guaranteed postseason option.Pricing, seating chart, etc. is here:http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium_ticket_license_plans.jspAG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:45 PM="batmagadanleadoff":24dz924q]According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".[/quote:24dz924q]What does he do?themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:08 PMI received a letter today that contained the following -]We are pleased to advise that we will have a selection of Ticket Plan offerings at Citi Field for our loyal Ticket Plan account holders prior to the general public. Two 40-game and five 15-fame Plans will enable us to accommodate each 2008 Ticket Plan holder with a Ticket Plan purchase opportunity for our Inaugural Season at Citi Field. We will communicate these offerings to you in the weeks ahead.So it looks like the Sunday Only plan is a thing of the past.Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2008 02:11 PMOne of those five 15-game plans might be heavily oriented towards Sundays.The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. Maybe one of the plans is 13 Sundays plus two "bonus" games.Please let us know when you find out more.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:17 PMWill do!Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:13 PMI have my doubts about these plans. My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options.I doubt they would do a heavily-Sunday or heavily-Saturday plan; it would seem more likely they'd want to split up the weekend games so that all plans would be equally attractive to the buyers.Also, I wouldn't count on opening day being available in any of the plans.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:14 PM="Benjamin Grimm":2vxwybpt]The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. [/quote:2vxwybpt]You don't have to guess! Full 2009 schedule is already available:http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym&m=4&y=2009Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:07 PM]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 07:14 PM="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase optionsand if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc.The Mets' can't win there.Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent.Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:35 PMI'd like to make a declaration of interest in buying into a very small part of someone's 40-game plan. I don't think I can afford or commit to more than a small handful next year, ISO same, etc etc. If there's enough of us...Rockin' Doc Oct 20 2008 07:44 PMIs it just me, or does anyone else find the concern over the availability of Mets playoff tickets be almost as pointless as Detroit Lion fans worrying about their access to Super Bowl tickets? It's probably just me. Watching a good young team like the Rays has made me rather cynical of late.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:47 PMmaybe you could try putting a group together on here to buy a 40 game plan (either 2 or 4 seats) and then divide up the games.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:53 PMYeah, that's what I'm saying but I need someone who 1) is receiving this offer and 2) Can be trusted to cut the giant check.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 08:07 PMi'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM="Nymr83":27g5374t]i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.[/quote:27g5374t]You could do a proportional buy-in, rate the cost per game, and divvy it up where any potential attendee could buy in even for 1-2 games.We probably won't go to more than 1-2 next year given the cost and distance.Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PMOops double post.themetfairy Oct 20 2008 08:31 PMA complicating point is that, even within a plan, not all games are priced evenly. With my Sunday plan last year, the prices varied tremendously depending on what color coded ticket price applied to the date.Gwreck Oct 20 2008 08:56 PMI have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:15 PMInGwreck Oct 20 2008 09:20 PMI'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately...John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:21 PMSpecially if you intend to collect from me.Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 11:04 PMi'm not sure who here can "cut the big check" or who would be willing to even admit it if they could. we could collect at least some money beforehand, or we could look at a 15-game plan to split up instead of a 40, it really all depends on how much interest we have.themetfairy Oct 21 2008 05:12 AMIf it helps, they accept credit card payment for tickets.That just means that someone has a large enough credit limit to handle the transaction and trusts everyone else enough to pony up their share quickly.Fman99 Oct 21 2008 06:45 AM="Gwreck":f4a68j0e]I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group.I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same:You have to buy in pairs;People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season;Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A);Draft position is determined by random chance;When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights)Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.[/quote:f4a68j0e]Yep. My cousin and her husband are in a group in the DC area that does this with four Nats season tickets.Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 06:57 AMAre you guys talking about splitting up a 40 or a 15? And how many seats for each game? And how much would the "big check" be for?John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2008 07:09 AM2 tixx for 40 games at Citifield would be 3 grand or something at least?soupcan Oct 21 2008 07:52 AMI got two tix for all 81 games in whatever they are calling the upper deck. Don't yet know whether they are in left or right. I gave them a $250.00 deposit per ticket and they will contact me at some future date to let me know where I'll be.The total cost will be about $1,500.00 each. I'm sure I won't even be close to using all of them so if anybody's interested in taking a few off my hands, that's cool.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 02:45 PMI read thread quickly and see 81 and 40 games plans mentioned. I got a lettertoday that say there will also be five 15 game plans available to people withMets accounts in the coming weeks ahead.If I can get a 15 game plan I'd be super happy and also willing to share orjust meet for some games.Kong76 Oct 23 2008 03:04 PMRe-reading, I didn't go far enough back ... I can't keep up lately.I'll be happy to be offered something is where I was going with this, I reallythought most plan holders were going to be left out completely.(and that may have been the original plan before we all became poorer thelast couple of months)sharpie Oct 23 2008 03:59 PMI'd be in for buying into a larger plan. Or buying some Soup tix.Vic Sage Oct 24 2008 01:51 PMme, too.soupcan Oct 24 2008 02:02 PMGreat, I'll keep you all posted.Farmer Ted Nov 12 2008 11:39 AMDoesn't look like Boston is going after any high-priced free agents. That, or they have a ton of cash stuffed away.BOSTON (AP) -- For the first time in 14 years, the Boston Red Sox aren't increasing any ticket prices at Fenway Park for the 2009 season.Prices range from $12 to $125 for tickets bought after Dec. 17. There is a discount for earlier purchases once tickets go on sale Dec. 13.Red Sox President Larry Lucchino says the team knows that fans are facing challenging economic times and wanted to give them a break.Fans with contracts for premium seats can keep their ticket prices the same if they agree to extend those contracts for one year.The team plans to add about 350 seats at Fenway Park before next season.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 01:20 PMHere are the Partial Season Ticket Plans[/url:205v8hxo].Partial season ticket holders can make their purchases based on a seniority system. I'm not a long term season ticket holder, so I have to wait until December 10th to purchase my tickets.Gwreck Nov 26 2008 01:28 PMI don't think seniority has anything to do with it -- I think it's based on what you had in 2008. Order is:1. Full Season Holders from 2008 who did not renew for a Full Season 20092. Weekday Plan Holders from 20083. Mini and Tuesday/Friday plan holders from 20084. Saturday and Sunday plan holders from 2008Kong76 Nov 26 2008 02:34 PMGot the email earlier and the regular letter just now.Seems to me that if I log at 10am on 12/5 I should be able to get my singleseat Sunday ticket and if I got lucky I could get two extra seats?I mean really, if they can't give me one seat after 5-6 years of full seasonand another 5 or so of plan seasons they can gobble my turkey neck andlick my giblets.themetfairy Nov 26 2008 03:10 PMIf Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 03:24 PMI'll post an image of the letter I got a little later.Kong76 Nov 26 2008 04:25 PMGwreck Nov 26 2008 10:49 PM="themetfairy":2gwrrk6t]If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.[/quote:2gwrrk6t]Indeed. Can't believe the Mets managed to get that one right (!).SI Metman Nov 26 2008 11:26 PMyep, I've only been a Sunday plan holder for 2 1/2 years and got the 10th on my letter. Fortunately they are sparing us from going to the last Sunday game in '09.Kong76 Dec 05 2008 08:15 AMScored two seats, Sun+ plan, front row of the highest level, in the outfield. mezzman is now promresmanVic Sage Dec 05 2008 09:53 AMmy friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.themetfairy Dec 05 2008 09:56 AM="Vic Sage":f2arzhqv]my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.[/quote:f2arzhqv]It's nice to know that I have priority over somebody.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Wally:]Someday soon, spending a day at the ballpark will be the equivalent of yachting, playing croquet or pitching darts on the lawn of the family compound, an ultra-costly diversion enjoyed by the rich and privileged, fantasized about by the rest of uswhat a load of crap. there are still going to be seats under $20, thats by far cheaper than other sports. wally also decides not to point out that unlike the yankees and many other teams, the mets do, and will continue to, allow outside food into the stadium, a pretty significant cost savings for anyone who cares
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 It's not about the Mets, or even the Yankees. Demand drives prices up, and that's a fact everywhere. The main issue is on the supply side, even as the economy threatens to reduce demand.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Swells who buy season tickets aren't enthusiastic fans based on their being swells?The 4,000 affordable (or most affordable) seats is a scary number. All the numbers are already scary and that's in the present tense. The price on my ticket to see Billy Joel, the rarest and biggest of events for Shea, was actually less than the price on my ticket to see the Mets and Phillies last week, which was one of 81 games, even if it was a fairly big one (I was somebody's Field Level guest or I wouldn't have been sitting there). And it's gonna cost more than that? Even though I know it and have known it, wow.I can see the theoretical comparisons between Citi and MSG (all sold out to alleged corporate stooges), except there are twice as many baseball games as basketball games and Citi is twice as big as the Garden. Novelty does wear off -- April and May weeknights take up a lot of the season -- and an aftermarket infrastructure is in place, one that sometimes provides an in at relative (relative) bargain prices. It's a shame it has to be that way, but it appear it is that way.It's laughable that the "team of the people" all but dismisses walkup sales as a relic and isn't particularly interested in accommodating (that is taking money from) partial plan holders.One way or another, life will be different.
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