Pagan traded for Coco Crisp?!?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Just saw this while looking for MFY brawl news.

[Guest AG/DC]

Nothing coming over the netcast. Crisp has missed eight games with a groin thing.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Internet says WFAN is saying so. Would explain Pagan sitting for Fernando playing CF ... and signal all is not right with Beltran's health?

[bmfc1]

It's being discussed at SOSH, too.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

My wife's favorite player. Coco Crisp.

[Frayed Knot]

... it's a rumor that's "gaining steam around the ballpark" according to Eddie C on FAN.


Not sure I get this one.
Criisp (28) is a GREAT glove but doesn't really hit well enough to justify as anything other than a CFer and we kinda already got one of those.
Not sure that his 2007 numbers are a whole lot better than what you can get out of Pagan if he were forced (or forced his way) into action:
.268/.330/.382
Crisp, like Pagan, switch-hits but has better RH numbers than LH.

He did have that real good year in Cleveland (2005: .300/.345/.465) but is getting paid off those stats ($15.5mil over 3 years - 2 remaining) even though Boston has essentially awarded his job to their rookie Ellsbury making Coco not only an expensive spare part but also unhappy about it.

[Guest AG/DC]

Coco hits lefties better, but not by a lot.

I can't find a clear shot of Maria Crisp out there.

[RealityChuck]

But Crisp can be on the all-cereal team with Zach Wheat, Jim and Sam Rice, Johnny Oates, Joe "Oats" Demestri, Joe Milette, Gene Rye and Carl and Willie Maize, and Bran Rickey.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I did a search on Google News, and found nothing.

I checked WFAN's awful web site (on the rare occasions that I go there, it always makes me want to take a shower afterwards) and saw nothing, but I couldn't bear to stay long enough to do a search.

That web site is even more loud and obnoxious than the radio station is.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I've already concocted multiple arguments in favor of this deal, so I hope it goes through.

[bmfc1]

From John Delcos at the LoHud Mets Blog:

A Mets� official said there is nothing to a WFAN report Angel Pagan was being traded to Boston for Co Co Crisp.

By the way, Pagan just homered.

[smg58]

Meanwhile, Pagan just hit a pinch hit home run.

[Guest AG/DC]

Eat it.

[smg58]

Beaten to the draw!

Granted he had less ML AB's the past two years, but there's nothing in the numbers he put up and those that Crisp put up in 06 and 07 that would suggest Crisp is clearly better.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I suck

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yes, with the Jay Satan. I suck!!!!!!

[HahnSolo]

M & MD are acting as though it is near official. And of course saying it's a bad trade for the Mets.

[Guest AG/DC]

They are trying to outsuck Lunchbucket.

[metsmarathon]

HahnSolo wrote: M & MD are acting as though it is near official. And of course saying it's a bad trade for the Mets.

i'm shocked that they could possibly be wrong about this! on both ends of it!

i'd love the trade, myself, as a sox fan i know and i have been discussing it. he can't really think of good reasons for the sox to do it.

but, sadly, from boston.com...

]Ignore that rumor started about Coco Crisp heading to the Mets for Angel Pagan. Theo Epstein, through media relations director John Blake, said that the Red Sox have not been talking to the Mets. That the story was a fabrication.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, let's hope then that this is one of those cases where the best trade is the one you didn't make.

[Valadius]

It's just like M&MD to take a fake story and run with it.

[Benjamin Grimm]

And I'm sure they're both ignoring the egg that's dripping down their faces.

[Guest MadDog]

HA HA! SAY SOMETHING FUNNY, MIKE!

[Frayed Knot]

To be fair to M&MD (and the FAN website) this was never reported as a done deal, they were just reacting to Eddie C calling in while working at the ballpark to say that this rumor "had been gaining steam throughout the day".

Their reaction (at least the part I heard) wasn't a whole lot different than mine; not a bad deal on the surface but doesn't really fill a need IMO.

[Valadius]

Plus, you'd think they'd get a lot more for Crisp.

[Fman99]

HahnSolo wrote: M & MD are acting as though it is near official. And of course saying it's a bad trade for the Mets.

Hard to believe those two clowns would have some anti-Met slant on a news story or rumor.

[/sarcasm]

[Frayed Knot]

Valadius wrote: Plus, you'd think they'd get a lot more for Crisp.

I'm not so sure.
The Sawx have no place to play him and owe him $10+mil over the next 2 years. *IF* this deal went through they may even have to throw money into just to make it happen.

[Guest Edgy DC]

And, as I mentioned, the guy has been hurt.

[Frayed Knot]

btw, both Omar and Theo claim there's nothing to this rumor.

[stevejrogers]

Frayed Knot wrote: To be fair to M&MD (and the FAN website) this was never reported as a done deal, they were just reacting to Eddie C calling in while working at the ballpark to say that this rumor "had been gaining steam throughout the day". Their reaction (at least the part I heard) wasn't a whole lot different than mine; not a bad deal on the surface but doesn't really fill a need IMO.

Sadly they weren't the only ones, down the dial on 1050 Don LaGreca needed some time to kill so he ran with it for a couple of segments.

Thing I find amusing is how it got treated as an actual story rather than idle speculation. Doesn't happen too much on WFAN, but 1050 does lead the league in following unattributed stories in newspapers, or suggestions made by columnists (i.e. they would do a segment or two on a column suggesting that Team A make a move with no real context or thought, but rather just an impulsive need to write a column) and making that a major topic for a talk show segment.

Speaking of LaGreca, this reminded me of one afternoon he was doing updates when it appeared that Lou Piniella was all but a done deal for the Mets, though everyone was denying it, LaGreca kept hammering in the fact in his report that despite the denials ESPN was reporting that it was a done deal and Lou Piniella was in fact the new Met manager. Despite no source and everyone denying it.