stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 I was referring to the BB that Willets mentioned. Several of the posters on the current MOFO were on GSS (yet another Met forum named after Ventura's infamous game winning hit in Game 5 1999 NLCS of course), and got the boot in the same fashion as Vic mentioned, for pretty much the same reasons.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 Infamous? Are you a Braves fan?Steve seems to know more about the history of this place than I do, and I don't know hardly anything about him.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 Yeah, really. I wouldn't put Robin Ventura's game-winning shot in the same category as Pearl Harbor.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 ="Benjamin Grimm"]Yeah, really. I wouldn't put Robin Ventura's game-winning shot in the same category as Pearl Harbor.October 17, 1999: A date which will live in famy.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 Rogers was either going with the popular, but controversial Lucky Day/El Guapo definition of "infamous", or he's just gettin' all Chipper J. Jeets[/url:1drkl6im] on us.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 Steve's been everywhere, man...
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 ="A Boy Named Seo":1gbomtrk]Rogers was either going with the popular, but controversial Lucky Day/El Guapo definition of "infamous"[/quote:1gbomtrk]Hilarious. "Jefe? Do you know what is a plethora? Well, you told me I have a plethora. I would not like to think that a person would tell someone he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has no idea what it means to have a plethora."One of the best movies ever.Edgy DC Oct 29 2008 05:45 PMWell, maybe one of the best million films ever. I can go for that.Kong76 Oct 29 2008 06:17 PMEDC: Steve seems to know more about the history of this place than I do, and I don't know hardly anything about him <<<StevieJStalker sees all!Frayed Knot Oct 29 2008 07:39 PM="SteveJRogers":2nu9sgsu]Several of the posters on the current MOFO were on GSS and got the boot in the same fashion as Vic mentioned, for pretty much the same reasons.[/quote:2nu9sgsu]What Vic did to got booted (and me IIRC) had nothing to do with what others did.Edgy DC Oct 30 2008 10:58 AMDan Reilly, knew when to keep his mouth shut.Check out the piping on ihs original uni.Villager photo by Will McKinleyDan Reilly, the original Mr. Met, at Shea Stadium recently. Reilly with his Mr. Met baseball head back in the mid-1960s when he was the team�s mascot at home games.Mr. Met recalls heady times as first mascot for Amazin�sBy WILL McKINLEYDozens of Mets legends were honored at Shea Stadium�s closing ceremony last month, from Tom Seaver to Mike Piazza and all the lesser lights in between. But one seminal figure in the team�s history was conspicuous by his absence. Dan Reilly, the first man to wear the costume of iconic mascot Mr. Met, watched the bittersweet festivities at home on TV like an ordinary fan. But the longtime Soho resident and author of the new book �The Original Mr. Met Remembers,� is anything but. �I�m disappointed they didn�t invite me back, but I�m not angry,� said Reilly, who played the Mets mascot on and off the field from 1964 through 1967, the first three of his nine years with the club. �Seaver, Koosman, Swoboda, all those guys were my buddies. And I figured they�d like to see me again, too, just to say hello, a few handshakes, keep in touch. They all still call me Mr. Met.�Now 70 and retired, Reilly�s ties with the team go back to Shea�s inaugural season, when he joined the Mets ticket sales staff two months before the debut of their new home.�It was a snowy February morning the day of my interview,� Reilly said last week, as he walked the grounds of the soon-to-be-demolished stadium. �From the outside, it looked like an orange-and-blue skeleton. Nothing was happening and nobody was around. Inside, they were still putting the seats in. And now I�m watching them take those seats out. It�s sad.�Sadness is not an emotion readily associated with Reilly, a jovial, outgoing raconteur who worked in the restaurant business after leaving the Mets in 1972, and recently concluded a four-year stint as the host of game-day ferry rides to Shea. On boat or barstool, the Richmond Hill, Queens, native spins colorful tales of the early days of the Amazin� Mets with a hearty laugh and, on this occasion, a misty eye. �We were a small organization back then, no superstars,� said Reilly, clad in a Mets jersey and still using �we� and �us� when referring to the team he left 36 years ago. �I drank with those guys. I knew where all the good Irish bars in Queens were. And I knew when to keep my mouth shut. That�s why everyone liked me.�Reilly was front and center for nearly all of the significant events of the team�s first decade: Shea�s first opening day; the 1964 All-Star Game; Casey Stengel�s on-field 75th birthday celebration and the infamous after-party at Toots Shor�s, where the legendary manager broke his hip and ended his career; the arrival of 1967 Rookie of the Year Seaver; the managerial tenure of Reilly�s boyhood idol Gil Hodges and, most memorably, the Miracle Mets World Series victory on Oct. 16, 1969.�As soon as that game was over, I ran from the press box down to the clubhouse,� Reilly said 39 years and one day later, as he traced the trajectory from the top of the stadium to the bottom with his finger. �There�s a picture of me in the 1970 yearbook, being doused with champagne by Jerry Grote. Those were my guys. They were the best.�In addition to his daily responsibilities, first in ticket sales and later in the promotions department, Reilly also served as the V.I.P. handler for visiting celebrities and politicians, ran the Mets Speakers Bureau program and filled in as public address announcer at Shea for three weeks in 1966. He also wished four members of a British rock band good luck as they ran on to the field for an August 1965 concert.�I said, �Break a leg, guys,� and one of them said, �Thanks mate!�� Reilly remembered. �I don�t know which one it was because I didn�t know who The Beatles were back then.�But Reilly�s fondest memories began on May 31, 1964, when he donned the papier-m�ch�, baseball-shaped head of the first mascot in Major League Baseball history. The Mets lost both sides of a doubleheader that day to the Giants, whose defection to California with the Brooklyn Dodgers after the 1957 season inspired attorney Bill Shea�s successful crusade to bring National League baseball back to New York. But, between games of that doubleheader, a star was born. �The stadium was packed and I was nervous,� Reilly said with a laugh. �They had told me to play it straight, just walk out there and wave, but the kids started swarming down to meet me in the stands. I shook hands, posed for pictures, signed autographs. After that, I got cocky and started dancing. It was an instant hit. Back then, the fans might not have recognized the players, but they always recognized Mr. Met.� As Reilly remembered the glories of four decades past, he struck up a conversation with a current Mets fan, 48-year-old software engineer Mark Szemberski, who was snapping photos of the now-shuttered stadium. �Of all people to meet, the last time I�m at Shea � Mr. Met!� Szemberski exclaimed, as he posed for a picture with the unlikely celebrity. �You made my day. I hope they invite you back when they open the new stadium.�Reilly handed Szemberski his business card, which features a photo of his younger self in a regulation Mets uniform, holding the outsized head that made him famous. The original Mr. Met is smiling broadly, as always. �Baseball is tradition,� Reilly said, as he bid final farewell to Shea from a departing 7 train. �Mr. Met touched people then, and he still does. I think it�s important to remember how we used to do it, what Shea used to be like. If we do, there will always be a Shea Stadium.��The Original Mr. Met Remembers: When the Miracle Began� (138 pages) is available at iUniverse.com.HahnSolo Oct 30 2008 11:22 AMThe uniform on the right suggests that photo is from '86 (racing stripes and anniversary logo), not from the early sixties.(I see Edgy beat me to that).soupcan Oct 30 2008 11:23 AMYeah - something's wrong there.Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2008 11:38 AMI'd guess that in 1986 he was just visiting with his old head.seawolf17 Oct 30 2008 12:07 PM="Benjamin Grimm":36b19cxk]I'd guess that in 1986 he was just visiting with his old head.[/quote:36b19cxk]Possibly for a 25th anniversary event, which would make sense.Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 02:40 PMThe High-A Inland Empire 66ers of San Bernardino (real name!) have announced their coaching staff, including John Valentin as batting coach and Charlie Hough as pitching coach.I confused Hough with Verne Ruhle and thought he was dead.Edgy DC Nov 10 2008 02:45 PMCandidates being looked at for the Seattle managerial job include Jose Oquendo, the prototype for Rey Ordoñez; Joey Cora, who managed for the Mets in the minors, and Randy Ready, who has one of the porniest names in baseball history.sharpie Nov 11 2008 11:36 AMSoon we can enjoy the literary stylings of Mike Piazza:Mike Piazza, a 12-time All Star for the Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Mets, has signed a deal to write his autobiography for Simon & Schuster. V-p and senior editor Bob Bender acquired world rights from David Black, CEO of Black Inc., and Dan Lozano, Piazza�s sports agent. Publication is slated for 2010. In the book, Piazza, who retired just before the 2008 season, will discuss controversies of his career, including the 2000 World Series incident when Roger Clemens threw a shattered bat at him, and the press conference he held to deny rumors that he was gay. The autobiography will also cover Piazza�s tumultuous relationships with the Dodgers, their front office and Tommy Lasorda; as well as his former teammates Bobby Valentine, Pedro Martinez, Rickey Henderson and others.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 11:40 AMHe actually retired well into the 2008 season when he hadn't gotten interest from anybody. And Bobby Valentine wasn't his teammate.Who writes press releases these days?John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 11 2008 11:47 AMWho cares. I'm going to read the hell out of that book.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 11:52 AMIf'n I were you, I contact that agent NOW!!!! and show him your writin' credentials.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 11:55 AMGood thought.Writing the hell out of the book would be even better than reading the hell out of it.HahnSolo Nov 11 2008 12:19 PMKnowing the publishing industry as I do, I can tell you that acquiring editor had absolutely no interest in the writin' credentials in the manuscript and cared primarily about the name on page 1.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 12:21 PMSo Piazza now shops around for a ghost, I suppose?I figure he'll go with a sportswriter he had a good relationship with during his playing days.G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:23 PMOr a David Frum/Michael Gershon otherwise underemployed wordsmith of the right. Mike goes that way.HahnSolo Nov 11 2008 12:25 PM="Benjamin Grimm":r3mb7fqz]So Piazza now shops around for a ghost, I suppose?I figure he'll go with a sportswriter he had a good relationship with during his playing days.[/quote:r3mb7fqz]I doubt Piazza does the shopping unless there's a writer he was really close to and insists on using him. Otherwise, I expect the literary agent would work with the publisher to find someone.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 12:28 PMWhich is fucking why you should be acting NOW!!!!G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:30 PMI'm Richie Hebner for another eight posts or so. I'm not going out of my way to pick up any ground balls for a little while.sharpie Nov 11 2008 12:32 PMDavid Black, the agent, reps many bigtime sportswriters (including Mitch Albom of "Tuesdays With Morrie" fame). Piazza would have already come attached with a writer by the time the deal was made.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 12:32 PMI don't want to stir up an ugly intramural competition, but GFafif should also throw his hat in the ring.G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:40 PM="Benjamin Grimm":3prysgfg]I don't want to stir up an ugly intramural competition, but GFafif should also throw his hat in the ring.[/quote:3prysgfg]Thanks, but first I have to finish my "as told to myself" thing.After I stop being Richie Hebner.Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 10:23 AMFormer Pitchers Leading Today's Brogna News:Hideo Nomo, teaching the forkball to young buffalos.Frank Viola, getting into the analyst game.Tom Seaver, advising the youth of today and liquoring up Tommy Davis.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 12 2008 10:41 AMRead also where Leiter was joining the staff at MLB-TV. I guess that means he's leaving the NO! network.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 08:14 AMSo, if you're like me, you grew sick of stories of Lenny Dykstra, swinging finance trader, about two paragraphs into the first one, but now the angle isn't that he's just another player, but that he's actually flourishing during these hard times. The claim is that he's 82-0 in stock picks endorsed in his newsletter.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 01:36 PMRick Sweet returning as manager of the Louisville Bats.Local favorite Roger Mason joins the Traverse City Beach Bums as pitching coach.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 13 2008 01:38 PMRon Gardenhire gets an extension.Leiter btw, will still work for Al-Yankazeera. Reynolds tho is out at SNY, raising speculation that Bobby Ojeda is on his way in.I think I speak for everyone ever by saying it would be nice to mix a 73er or 99-00er in there.TransMonk Nov 13 2008 01:42 PM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1jn4n2h7]I think I speak for everyone ever by saying it would be nice to mix a 73er or 99-00er in there.[/quote:1jn4n2h7]Didn't Zeile get a shot once?Benjamin Grimm Nov 13 2008 01:44 PMI was thinking a 69er: Ron Swoboda.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 05:02 PMSam Perlozzo joins the Phils. Bang.metsguyinmichigan Nov 13 2008 11:01 PM="Edgy DC":828l4i24]Rick Sweet returning as manager of the Louisville Bats.Local favorite Roger Mason joins the Traverse City Beach Bums as pitching coach.[/quote:828l4i24]Traverse City is a beautiful resort area about two hours north of me. The team is fairly new, and plays in an independent league.We used to play in an all-newspaper softball tournament in Traverse, and it was fun until the Detroit News took it over and started stacking its team with ringers who didn't work for the paper. Cads!I'll have to head up this summer and see a game and talk to Mason!Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 10:19 AMHoly Foli, Batman, it's Sammy Drake! In a Mets hat!An old friendship, forged 50 years ago, is rekindledAUGUSTA -- It was the New York Mets cap on his head. This being Red Sox country, people had to stop the athletic, older man this week and ask."What's up with the hat?"That's when C. Wayne Mitchell glanced at his guest and stepped in. "This is Sammy Drake. Don't you know who he is?"No one did, to the amusement of both men."He's an original member of the Mets," Mitchell would tell them. "He's my friend."It's a friendship forged nearly 50 years ago, interrupted by decades of separation and searching by Mitchell and resumed about four years ago. Mitchell's family, aware of his wish to reconnect, trolled the Internet, finding Drake at a Mets reunion in New Jersey.Sunday, Drake came to Mitchell's home in Sidney for a four-day visit. They laughed and joked and marveled again at the strength of a relationship neither fully understood when it began on a hot U.S. Army base in the deep south at a time when full integration was still a dream.Drake was a draftee from Little Rock, Ark. trying to keep alive his dream of playing major league baseball while he was serving his country. Mitchell was the 7-year-old son of a career soldier returned from duty in Germany and new to the Georgia base. That summer, the young boy discovered the Fort Gordon Rams and a young, talented infielder who asked Mitchell if he wanted to be the bat boy."I could see he was interested in baseball," said Drake during lunch at a local restaurant Wednesday. Drake remembered when he fell in love with the game. The two played catch. Sometimes, Mitchell would go the base recreation center where Drake worked.They were so different in age and in race. Then, Mitchell was too young to understand what it meant to be a young black adult in Georgia. Drake, of course, did.A year or two after meeting, Mitchell's father was transferred to Taiwan. Mitchell got a baseball glove, a bat, a handshake, and much later, when he could fully understand, an outlook on life."Of all the hello's and good-bye's, his was the one I remember most," said Mitchell, while Drake nodded. "I knew a thank-you would be in order."Mitchell's story to this point became a column I wrote four years ago. Then, I couldn't reach Drake who had returned to his home in Los Angeles. Wednesday, at lunch, I introduced myself. Meeting Mitchell wasn't a coincidence, Drake said. There was a reason that maybe still isn't clear 50 years later.Drake was surprised, but not stunned when Mitchell walked up to his table at the hotel where the Mets reunion and autograph session took place. He's met a lot of people in his 74 years and has usually found the goodness in them, even under trying circumstances."At first I thought he as a typical fan," Drake said. "When he started talking about Fort Gordon I knew right away."Drake can't say he thought about Mitchell much over the years. Neither did he forget the young bat boy who would go to the gym to fold towels and stay out of the way of the soldiers.�"He would get picked on by the ballplayers a little bit. It was all in fun, but I could see it bothered him. I'd say, come with me. Let's play catch."Drake signed with the Chicago Cubs for $1,500 and was later assigned to Macon, Ga. to play for Pepper Martin in the so-called Sally League. He was the first African-American to play in the league he says. The most hurtful part of that season?"Not being able to sleep in the same hotels with my teammates. Not being able to eat with them. I could get carry-out or go across the river to a (black-owned restaurant.)"In the next breath, Drake tells of Martin's effort to get him seated with the team at a restaurant in Indiana. Martin, nicknamed the Wild Horse of the Osage, was a third baseman for the St. Louis Cardinals' "Gashouse Gang" in the 1930s and colorblind.Drake remembers one of his first trips to spring training with the Cubs after his two years in the Army. He was one of three black ballplayers in a group of 50 minor leaguers were assigned to a barracks-style building. "Every night I would pray. They must have thought I was from another planet."But I had a good spring training. When camp broke, everyone was on their knees praying but two."Monday, Mitchell and Drake had breakfast with Roger Katz, the mayor of Augusta and a baseball fan. Katz invited Drake to speak to the city council that night. He told the story of a Cubs tryout he attended in Winnipeg, Manitoba and the sore arm he had. He couldn't throw across the infield. Discouraged, he called the grandmother who raised him. Don't worry, he was told. She would pray for him."We had a big snowstorm," said Drake smiling. "We couldn't use the field for two weeks. I soaked my arm in the bath tub every day. I was ready."The Mets drafted him off the Cubs roster. His two-year, major league career was the proverbial cup of coffee. In 53 games he hit .153. His older brother, Solly, played parts of three seasons with the Cubs, Phillies and Dodgers. Together, they were the first African-American brothers to play major league baseball.Early Thursday morning, Drake said good-bye to Mitchell and his wife, Bonnie, and began his trip back to Los Angeles. A graduate of Philander Smith College in Little Rock, he's a retired investigator for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. He teaches Sunday School at the Greater Ebenezer Missionary Baptist Church, where his brother, the Rev. Dr. Solomon Drake, is pastor to a 6,000-member congregation.They've listened to the story of how a young white boy and a young black adult became lasting friends. It shouldn't be forgotten. Edgy DC Nov 19 2008 10:38 AMJack Aker, out of work and vulnerable like the rest of us.This old ballplayer understands life better than most by Rabbi Ben Kamin, Spiritual Life Examiner Jack Aker, a name known to aficionados of the national pastime, is something of a legend. But if his baseball card could talk, you�d hear a lot more than breezy play-by-play. Here�s a guy who made more appearances (495) as a relief pitcher than anybody in his time, but found himself taken out of the game quite before he expected. Like anybody suddenly not doing the thing we�ve been doing forever, Jack found himself looking down the abyss�he was tearful, anxious, and despondent.Baseball players are real people, in spite of the hype we impose on them, and their souls hurt, their spirits droop, just like all hard-working Americans.Jack won the Sporting News �Fireman of the Year� award in 1966 and played for the Kansas City and then Oakland Athletics, the Seattle Pilots, New York Yankees, Chicago Cubs, Atlanta Braves, and New York Mets. When I met him some years ago, he was pitching coach of the Cleveland Indians; I caught my breath short, extending and receiving hands of friendship with a living and breathing major leaguer who was on a first-name basis with such stars as Phil Niekro and Tom Seaver.I saw him at his tallest. Arriving on the green natural field before game time, Jack came for me, in full regalia�snappy cap and shimmering team jacket. He walked across fresh, chalky baselines with a certain, lanky royalty. There were the first faint smells of popcorn and beer from the bowels from the bowels of the old stadium as the coach escorted me into the clubhouse.Jack took me into a comfortably large room filled with open booths that served as repositories for the players. �Here,� he declared, �we meet and discuss the game plan.� Like a knothole sentry, he walked past the colognes and hair dryers of the bath area towards a large bin containing thick, polished baseball bats. He said, somberly: �Nobody can touch a man�s bat. You see, Ben, they are numbered according to his uniform number. The bat is a very personal matter to a guy. Nobody can touch it.�I understood what a sacrilege was and I shook my head in awe of power and success.A little over a year later, following a season of fallen expectations and profits, Jack (and the team manager) were both summarily dismissed from their positions. Now, this same Jack, record-holder, my invincible hero, sat in the front of my automobile, shoulders slumped, his head in his hands. We were taking a ride in the country as the venerable coach tried to sort things out.His prestige, his income, and his self-image were suddenly as powdery as the faded chalk lines of that emerald ball field he had once ruled. Jack was gone, the manager was gone, as well as a number of the muscular, sleek, swaggering players I had met that shining afternoon�in a different season.A person is so much more than his baseball card, her resume, his cellular list of �contacts.� Jack is doing okay, taking in his children and grandchildren, knowing well what it means to be laid off, discarded, discontinued. Maybe this old ballplayer understands America right now better than most.MFS62 Nov 19 2008 11:00 AMThank you, Edgy.Anyone who ever lost a job knows that you didn't have to bold that portion. We would have noticed it and commiserated(sp?) with Jack. But the way it was said was an unexpected pleasure in a piece like that, wasn't it?LaterEdgy DC Nov 19 2008 11:03 AMI was just imitating the original publishing, which set it as a pullquote.Farmer Ted Nov 19 2008 12:07 PMTim Foli will return to manage Washington's Class AAA affiliate in 2009.Met Hunter Nov 19 2008 10:37 PMJohn Stearns will be back managing the Nats AA team in Harrisburg as well.Benjamin Grimm Nov 20 2008 06:14 AMTim Bogar was among three who interviewed for a spot on the Phillies coaching staff.The problem is, they thought they were interviewing Doug Flynn.Edgy DC Nov 21 2008 10:06 AMJohn Nunnaly, batting coach with the Columbus Clippers.Edgy DC Nov 23 2008 08:56 PMJeff Innis, Cape Cod League Hall-of-Famer.Edgy DC Nov 28 2008 11:45 AMTim Bogar formally accepts the Red Sox offer to coach first.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 28 2008 12:37 PMThe last 5 or 6 messages belong in that other thread.Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 10:34 AMI consider coaching jobs part of retirement. Rico's was a coaching job.I hear you, though.Nonetheless, I'm sticking with it for one more thread, as Joe McEwing takes over the Winston-Salem Former Warthogs.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 10:43 AMJust for that it's my duty to report that Jason Hardtke has been named hitting coach of the Missoula Osprey (Dbaggs -Pioneer League). The Baggs also named Brett Butler manager of the Reno Aces (PCL).G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 01:04 PMI once received a letter letting me know Brett Butler would come and speak to my employees and motivate them with his life experiences and faith in Christ for only $20,000. How much is each Ace going to have to ante up for the privilege?Edgy DC Dec 16 2008 09:38 AMWest Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 09:56 AMYou must have overlooked Jerry Cram in your Google subscription:="Our Sports Central":3gap6pnt]SAN JOSE, CALIF December 15, 2008- The San Jose Giants announced their 2009 coaching staff today with Andy Skeels joining the club as manager, Jerry Cram as pitching coach and Gary Davenport returning as hitting coach. Yukiya Oba also returns as the team's athletic trainer....Jerry Cram is familiar with San Jose after spending three years as the Giants pitching coach from 2001-2003. The former major leaguer is now entering his ninth season in the San Francisco organization after working the last five years (2004-2008) as pitching coach of the Salem- Keizer Volcanoes (Short-Season). During his time in the Giants farm system, Cram's teams have won three league championships: San Jose in 2001 and Salem-Keizer in 2006 and 2007.Cram spent parts of four seasons in the major leagues with the Kansas City Royals (1969, 1976) and New York Mets (1974-1975), compiling a 0-3 record and 2.98 ERA over 23 career appearances. Cram has devoted 28 years to the Kansas City organization, the last 14 as a pitching instructor, in a tenure that ended in 1997. Cram then spent three seasons as a pitching coach in the Colorado Rockies minor league system before joining the San Francisco organization prior to the 2001 campaign....The San Jose Giants open their 2009 season on Thursday, April 9th at Municipal Stadium vs. the Stockton Ports. The Opening Night Extravaganza will include a post-game fireworks display, 2009 magnet schedule giveaway, the return of Gigante and much more. [/quote:3gap6pnt]metsguyinmichigan Dec 16 2008 12:29 PM="Edgy DC":3l94882y]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:3l94882y]The Whitecaps have a thing on Sunday afternoons where you can either go on the field to play catch, or go near the dugout where all the players stand in a line and sign autographs. (kids get a free soda and hot dog, too. We got to a lot of Sunday games.)So last year I brought my treasured Mets book, sought out DePastino to sign it and tried to talk to him about his short Mets tenure. Even though there was no one else around and nothing going on, he had absolutely nothing to say. Was disappointed. Maybe I'll have better luck with Benny.G-Fafif Dec 16 2008 12:37 PM="Edgy DC":1sfgljfz]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:1sfgljfz]What's Distefano's Met pedigree (other than breaking up David Cone's no-hitter?)At least this will give Distefano and DePastino a chance to exchange each other's misdirected mail.Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 12:49 PMHe was a replacement player with the Mets in spring training 1995.G-Fafif Dec 16 2008 12:59 PMNow that you say it, it sounds remotely familiar though I have to confess I might have missed it on a multiple choice. Any other ex-big leaguers in that camp?metsguyinmichigan Dec 16 2008 02:07 PMStan Jefferson, I think. I saw a couple of those spring games.HahnSolo Dec 16 2008 02:25 PM="G-Fafif":1lmhw7l1]="Edgy DC":1lmhw7l1]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:1lmhw7l1]What's Distefano's Met pedigree (other than breaking up David Cone's no-hitter?)At least this will give Distefano and DePastino a chance to exchange each other's misdirected mail.[/quote:1lmhw7l1]Italian restaurants in West Michigan are scurrying to bid for the postgame spread.HahnSolo Dec 16 2008 02:26 PM="metsguyinmichigan":2a90z7f9]Stan Jefferson, I think. I saw a couple of those spring games.[/quote:2a90z7f9]Two guys I went to high school with, Cliff Gonzalez (8th round pick of the Mets in '85) and Chris Walpole, were in that camp. Gonzalez and Jefferson knew each other having both been from Co-op City.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2008 09:11 AM] DYKSTRA DROPS THE BALLBy KEITH J. KELLYDecember 17, 2008 --FORMER New York Mets out fielder Lenny Dykstra appears to be striking out with his magazine, Players Club.Dykstra, who helped the 1986 Mets capture the World Series before landing with the Philadelphia Phillies, is leaving behind a string of unpaid bills and a constant parade of shifting editors and office addresses.In the latest upheaval, Chris Frankie, the acting editor, resigned Dec. 4 along with two other staffers. Now Loren Feldman, former editor-in-chief of Philadelphia magazine, is said to be ready to join as the new chief editor."Loren Feldman is the new editor," said Dykstra.Meanwhile, Frankie says he's owed back pay.But Dykstra sees things differently: "That's not true. Frankie owes me money. Whatever he's talking about is delusional."Counters Frankie, "That's beyond ridiculous. How could an employee owe an employer money?"Beyond three months' back pay, Frankie said he's also owed for business expenses.Frankie, who had originally helped Dykstra write the TheStreet.com's "Nails on the Numbers" column, got the editor job in August after Dykstra's talks with Neil Amdur, a former sports editor at The New York Times, collapsed at the last minute after a fight over Amdur's ability to hire deputies."I did fly out there for a meeting with Dykstra about the editor's job," Amdur confirmed. "I spent a couple of days with him. He did offer me the job."The last issue of Players Club was published in October, and the November issue will now be combined into a year-end double issue that has yet to appear.His aim with the magazine was to help professional athletes make sensible investments with the money they earn from sports to ensure they don't go broke when their pro careers end.But present and former staffers say that Dykstra, who during his days with Major League Baseball had the nickname "Nails," is tough as nails when it comes to paying his staff or vendors.Frequently, sources said, he got staff to use their own credit cards to pay for ex penses related to the maga zine, and took months to re imburse the employees.Although the magazine is less than a year old, it has al ready had four different printers and three different editors. Several vendors have also stopped doing business with the magazine.The latest vendor to suspend business is Getty Images, which sources say is owed around $40,000.Dykstra claims that's not true. "I have a great relationship with them," he said of Getty.One source who's worked closely with Dykstra said he "has a haphazard way of paying - he just wires you money.""It's always that the money is just about to come in and everyone will be paid," this person said, adding that if someone demands payment, then Dykstra turns on them. "If you demand payment, then you are the enemy."He always feels abandoned by people, but he doesn't seem to realize that he's the reason people abandon him."Frayed Knot Dec 17 2008 09:24 AMThis surprises me not.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2008 09:26 AMGotta love the irony in this venture being all about athletes spending wisely.Edgy DC Dec 17 2008 09:26 AMAnother day, another house of cards.Edgy DC Dec 22 2008 03:04 PMAaron Ledesma, infield coach for the Scranton-Wilkes Barre Yankees.The Yankees get a AAA infield coach? What a ripoff!Frayed Knot Dec 22 2008 07:36 PMMike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.Edgy DC Dec 26 2008 08:28 AMDJ has no regrets. Of course he doesn't. He got to be a Met.D.J. Dozier had a Bo Jackson-like versatilityPosted to: 50 Greatest SportsBy Ed MillerThe Virginian-PilotAs William, Bill, or even Billy, it just would not have worked as well. William Henry "D.J." Dozier would have been no less the athlete without that alliterative name, smooth as one of his touchdown runs or fielding gems at shortstop. That name - "D.J. Dozier" - was the shiny bow on top of the package of prep stardom.And Dozier was the complete package: a three-sport standout at Kempsville High, wooed by virtually every major football program in the country, coveted by virtually every pro baseball scout.Virginia Tech coach Bill Dooley came to the Norfolk Sports Club in December 1982 and made a public pitch for Dozier, something that would not be allowed under recruiting rules today, when coaches can't woo prospects through the media. Major league teams waved dollar signs in front of him, trying to convince him to skip football and play baseball.Dozier, No. 12 on the list of greatest athletes from South Hampton Roads, chose football - and Penn State. Later, after several years in the NFL, he reversed course and picked up a bat and glove. Good enough to briefly make it to the majors, he was, in an era of two-sport dabblers, a local, lower-wattage version of guys such as Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders."Obviously, when you look at the statistics, the numbers are certainly not what I hoped they would have been," said Dozier, now 43 and back in Virginia Beach working as a business consultant. "But the fact that I had the opportunity to go that far with what I would call God-given ability is a tremendous blessing."A dynamo at Penn State, Dozier forever will be a made man among Nittany Lion greats after leading the team in rushing four straight years, earning All-America honors twice and scoring the winning touchdown in a national championship victory over Miami.Things never clicked for him in the NFL, though. A first-round pick, Dozier missed time with injuries and didn't like the way the Vikings were using him - which was not too often. After three years, he signed with the Mets and began the climb through the minors in 1990. Meanwhile, contract talks with the Vikings stalled. Dozier finally re-signed with them halfway through the 1990 season.Dozier finished out that season and played six games with Detroit in 1991. With his baseball career seemingly blossoming, he left football behind.He would play just 25 games for the Mets, though, in 1992. In 1994, at 28, he moved on with his life, retiring from baseball.Dozier has coached, traveled the world doing missionary work, worked as a financial planner and investment banker. He moved back to Virginia recently from Allentown, Pa.He brought with him no regrets.Dozier said he remembered a former Kempsville teammate who played at Lock Haven University. Dozier knew he was good enough to play at Penn State and told his coaches. They offered him a chance to come to Happy Valley. In the end, though, the friend chose the security of staying at Lock Haven, later second-guessing his decision not to take his shot."I never forgot what he told me about the regret part of it," Dozier said. "That's what it was for me with baseball. I look at it as something that was a bit nuts, but I really felt that I could do it."The biggest thing about it is I didn't want to look back and regret not trying."He'll never have to.Ed Miller, (757) 446-2372 ed.miller@pilotonline.commetsguyinmichigan Dec 26 2008 11:17 AMThat's a nice story! Plus, I'd forgotten how nasty those old Tides caps were.G-Fafif Dec 26 2008 01:32 PM="Frayed Knot":34ueq9bz]Mike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.[/quote:34ueq9bz]How do you suppose he'll greet his new players...or monstrously huge batboy?themetfairy Dec 26 2008 02:12 PM="G-Fafif":1emwxaju]="Frayed Knot":1emwxaju]Mike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.[/quote:1emwxaju]How do you suppose he'll greet his new players...or monstrously huge batboy?[/quote:1emwxaju]No - just with a simple, "Welcome Abordick," of course!Edgy DC Dec 30 2008 07:42 AMFelix Mantilla, spreading the good chromosomes around.Mantilla earning court time at YaleDecember 30, 2008 NEWS-SUN STAFF REPORTMundelein High grad Raffi Mantilla has worked his way into the playing rotation for the Yale University men's basketball team.The sophomore guard has played in all eight Bulldog games (2-6 record), and is averaging nearly 10 minutes of action each game.He's scored a total of 18 points in those eight contests.Mantilla is the grandson of former major-league baseball player Felix Mantilla, who played with the Milwaukee Braves, New York Mets and Boston Red Sox in a long pro career.MFS62 Jan 03 2009 02:29 PMIn keeping with the three name thread in the non-baseball forum, I'll always remember him as Felix Lamela Mantilla. (I dunno why, but his middle name always stuck in my mind)LaterEdgy DC Jan 03 2009 02:31 PMYup, and time to retire Brogna 2008.
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Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 ="SteveJRogers":2nu9sgsu]Several of the posters on the current MOFO were on GSS and got the boot in the same fashion as Vic mentioned, for pretty much the same reasons.[/quote:2nu9sgsu]What Vic did to got booted (and me IIRC) had nothing to do with what others did.Edgy DC Oct 30 2008 10:58 AMDan Reilly, knew when to keep his mouth shut.Check out the piping on ihs original uni.Villager photo by Will McKinleyDan Reilly, the original Mr. Met, at Shea Stadium recently. Reilly with his Mr. Met baseball head back in the mid-1960s when he was the team�s mascot at home games.Mr. Met recalls heady times as first mascot for Amazin�sBy WILL McKINLEYDozens of Mets legends were honored at Shea Stadium�s closing ceremony last month, from Tom Seaver to Mike Piazza and all the lesser lights in between. But one seminal figure in the team�s history was conspicuous by his absence. Dan Reilly, the first man to wear the costume of iconic mascot Mr. Met, watched the bittersweet festivities at home on TV like an ordinary fan. But the longtime Soho resident and author of the new book �The Original Mr. Met Remembers,� is anything but. �I�m disappointed they didn�t invite me back, but I�m not angry,� said Reilly, who played the Mets mascot on and off the field from 1964 through 1967, the first three of his nine years with the club. �Seaver, Koosman, Swoboda, all those guys were my buddies. And I figured they�d like to see me again, too, just to say hello, a few handshakes, keep in touch. They all still call me Mr. Met.�Now 70 and retired, Reilly�s ties with the team go back to Shea�s inaugural season, when he joined the Mets ticket sales staff two months before the debut of their new home.�It was a snowy February morning the day of my interview,� Reilly said last week, as he walked the grounds of the soon-to-be-demolished stadium. �From the outside, it looked like an orange-and-blue skeleton. Nothing was happening and nobody was around. Inside, they were still putting the seats in. And now I�m watching them take those seats out. It�s sad.�Sadness is not an emotion readily associated with Reilly, a jovial, outgoing raconteur who worked in the restaurant business after leaving the Mets in 1972, and recently concluded a four-year stint as the host of game-day ferry rides to Shea. On boat or barstool, the Richmond Hill, Queens, native spins colorful tales of the early days of the Amazin� Mets with a hearty laugh and, on this occasion, a misty eye. �We were a small organization back then, no superstars,� said Reilly, clad in a Mets jersey and still using �we� and �us� when referring to the team he left 36 years ago. �I drank with those guys. I knew where all the good Irish bars in Queens were. And I knew when to keep my mouth shut. That�s why everyone liked me.�Reilly was front and center for nearly all of the significant events of the team�s first decade: Shea�s first opening day; the 1964 All-Star Game; Casey Stengel�s on-field 75th birthday celebration and the infamous after-party at Toots Shor�s, where the legendary manager broke his hip and ended his career; the arrival of 1967 Rookie of the Year Seaver; the managerial tenure of Reilly�s boyhood idol Gil Hodges and, most memorably, the Miracle Mets World Series victory on Oct. 16, 1969.�As soon as that game was over, I ran from the press box down to the clubhouse,� Reilly said 39 years and one day later, as he traced the trajectory from the top of the stadium to the bottom with his finger. �There�s a picture of me in the 1970 yearbook, being doused with champagne by Jerry Grote. Those were my guys. They were the best.�In addition to his daily responsibilities, first in ticket sales and later in the promotions department, Reilly also served as the V.I.P. handler for visiting celebrities and politicians, ran the Mets Speakers Bureau program and filled in as public address announcer at Shea for three weeks in 1966. He also wished four members of a British rock band good luck as they ran on to the field for an August 1965 concert.�I said, �Break a leg, guys,� and one of them said, �Thanks mate!�� Reilly remembered. �I don�t know which one it was because I didn�t know who The Beatles were back then.�But Reilly�s fondest memories began on May 31, 1964, when he donned the papier-m�ch�, baseball-shaped head of the first mascot in Major League Baseball history. The Mets lost both sides of a doubleheader that day to the Giants, whose defection to California with the Brooklyn Dodgers after the 1957 season inspired attorney Bill Shea�s successful crusade to bring National League baseball back to New York. But, between games of that doubleheader, a star was born. �The stadium was packed and I was nervous,� Reilly said with a laugh. �They had told me to play it straight, just walk out there and wave, but the kids started swarming down to meet me in the stands. I shook hands, posed for pictures, signed autographs. After that, I got cocky and started dancing. It was an instant hit. Back then, the fans might not have recognized the players, but they always recognized Mr. Met.� As Reilly remembered the glories of four decades past, he struck up a conversation with a current Mets fan, 48-year-old software engineer Mark Szemberski, who was snapping photos of the now-shuttered stadium. �Of all people to meet, the last time I�m at Shea � Mr. Met!� Szemberski exclaimed, as he posed for a picture with the unlikely celebrity. �You made my day. I hope they invite you back when they open the new stadium.�Reilly handed Szemberski his business card, which features a photo of his younger self in a regulation Mets uniform, holding the outsized head that made him famous. The original Mr. Met is smiling broadly, as always. �Baseball is tradition,� Reilly said, as he bid final farewell to Shea from a departing 7 train. �Mr. Met touched people then, and he still does. I think it�s important to remember how we used to do it, what Shea used to be like. If we do, there will always be a Shea Stadium.��The Original Mr. Met Remembers: When the Miracle Began� (138 pages) is available at iUniverse.com.HahnSolo Oct 30 2008 11:22 AMThe uniform on the right suggests that photo is from '86 (racing stripes and anniversary logo), not from the early sixties.(I see Edgy beat me to that).soupcan Oct 30 2008 11:23 AMYeah - something's wrong there.Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2008 11:38 AMI'd guess that in 1986 he was just visiting with his old head.seawolf17 Oct 30 2008 12:07 PM="Benjamin Grimm":36b19cxk]I'd guess that in 1986 he was just visiting with his old head.[/quote:36b19cxk]Possibly for a 25th anniversary event, which would make sense.Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 02:40 PMThe High-A Inland Empire 66ers of San Bernardino (real name!) have announced their coaching staff, including John Valentin as batting coach and Charlie Hough as pitching coach.I confused Hough with Verne Ruhle and thought he was dead.Edgy DC Nov 10 2008 02:45 PMCandidates being looked at for the Seattle managerial job include Jose Oquendo, the prototype for Rey Ordoñez; Joey Cora, who managed for the Mets in the minors, and Randy Ready, who has one of the porniest names in baseball history.sharpie Nov 11 2008 11:36 AMSoon we can enjoy the literary stylings of Mike Piazza:Mike Piazza, a 12-time All Star for the Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Mets, has signed a deal to write his autobiography for Simon & Schuster. V-p and senior editor Bob Bender acquired world rights from David Black, CEO of Black Inc., and Dan Lozano, Piazza�s sports agent. Publication is slated for 2010. In the book, Piazza, who retired just before the 2008 season, will discuss controversies of his career, including the 2000 World Series incident when Roger Clemens threw a shattered bat at him, and the press conference he held to deny rumors that he was gay. The autobiography will also cover Piazza�s tumultuous relationships with the Dodgers, their front office and Tommy Lasorda; as well as his former teammates Bobby Valentine, Pedro Martinez, Rickey Henderson and others.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 11:40 AMHe actually retired well into the 2008 season when he hadn't gotten interest from anybody. And Bobby Valentine wasn't his teammate.Who writes press releases these days?John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 11 2008 11:47 AMWho cares. I'm going to read the hell out of that book.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 11:52 AMIf'n I were you, I contact that agent NOW!!!! and show him your writin' credentials.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 11:55 AMGood thought.Writing the hell out of the book would be even better than reading the hell out of it.HahnSolo Nov 11 2008 12:19 PMKnowing the publishing industry as I do, I can tell you that acquiring editor had absolutely no interest in the writin' credentials in the manuscript and cared primarily about the name on page 1.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 12:21 PMSo Piazza now shops around for a ghost, I suppose?I figure he'll go with a sportswriter he had a good relationship with during his playing days.G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:23 PMOr a David Frum/Michael Gershon otherwise underemployed wordsmith of the right. Mike goes that way.HahnSolo Nov 11 2008 12:25 PM="Benjamin Grimm":r3mb7fqz]So Piazza now shops around for a ghost, I suppose?I figure he'll go with a sportswriter he had a good relationship with during his playing days.[/quote:r3mb7fqz]I doubt Piazza does the shopping unless there's a writer he was really close to and insists on using him. Otherwise, I expect the literary agent would work with the publisher to find someone.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 12:28 PMWhich is fucking why you should be acting NOW!!!!G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:30 PMI'm Richie Hebner for another eight posts or so. I'm not going out of my way to pick up any ground balls for a little while.sharpie Nov 11 2008 12:32 PMDavid Black, the agent, reps many bigtime sportswriters (including Mitch Albom of "Tuesdays With Morrie" fame). Piazza would have already come attached with a writer by the time the deal was made.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 12:32 PMI don't want to stir up an ugly intramural competition, but GFafif should also throw his hat in the ring.G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:40 PM="Benjamin Grimm":3prysgfg]I don't want to stir up an ugly intramural competition, but GFafif should also throw his hat in the ring.[/quote:3prysgfg]Thanks, but first I have to finish my "as told to myself" thing.After I stop being Richie Hebner.Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 10:23 AMFormer Pitchers Leading Today's Brogna News:Hideo Nomo, teaching the forkball to young buffalos.Frank Viola, getting into the analyst game.Tom Seaver, advising the youth of today and liquoring up Tommy Davis.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 12 2008 10:41 AMRead also where Leiter was joining the staff at MLB-TV. I guess that means he's leaving the NO! network.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 08:14 AMSo, if you're like me, you grew sick of stories of Lenny Dykstra, swinging finance trader, about two paragraphs into the first one, but now the angle isn't that he's just another player, but that he's actually flourishing during these hard times. The claim is that he's 82-0 in stock picks endorsed in his newsletter.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 01:36 PMRick Sweet returning as manager of the Louisville Bats.Local favorite Roger Mason joins the Traverse City Beach Bums as pitching coach.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 13 2008 01:38 PMRon Gardenhire gets an extension.Leiter btw, will still work for Al-Yankazeera. Reynolds tho is out at SNY, raising speculation that Bobby Ojeda is on his way in.I think I speak for everyone ever by saying it would be nice to mix a 73er or 99-00er in there.TransMonk Nov 13 2008 01:42 PM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1jn4n2h7]I think I speak for everyone ever by saying it would be nice to mix a 73er or 99-00er in there.[/quote:1jn4n2h7]Didn't Zeile get a shot once?Benjamin Grimm Nov 13 2008 01:44 PMI was thinking a 69er: Ron Swoboda.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 05:02 PMSam Perlozzo joins the Phils. Bang.metsguyinmichigan Nov 13 2008 11:01 PM="Edgy DC":828l4i24]Rick Sweet returning as manager of the Louisville Bats.Local favorite Roger Mason joins the Traverse City Beach Bums as pitching coach.[/quote:828l4i24]Traverse City is a beautiful resort area about two hours north of me. The team is fairly new, and plays in an independent league.We used to play in an all-newspaper softball tournament in Traverse, and it was fun until the Detroit News took it over and started stacking its team with ringers who didn't work for the paper. Cads!I'll have to head up this summer and see a game and talk to Mason!Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 10:19 AMHoly Foli, Batman, it's Sammy Drake! In a Mets hat!An old friendship, forged 50 years ago, is rekindledAUGUSTA -- It was the New York Mets cap on his head. This being Red Sox country, people had to stop the athletic, older man this week and ask."What's up with the hat?"That's when C. Wayne Mitchell glanced at his guest and stepped in. "This is Sammy Drake. Don't you know who he is?"No one did, to the amusement of both men."He's an original member of the Mets," Mitchell would tell them. "He's my friend."It's a friendship forged nearly 50 years ago, interrupted by decades of separation and searching by Mitchell and resumed about four years ago. Mitchell's family, aware of his wish to reconnect, trolled the Internet, finding Drake at a Mets reunion in New Jersey.Sunday, Drake came to Mitchell's home in Sidney for a four-day visit. They laughed and joked and marveled again at the strength of a relationship neither fully understood when it began on a hot U.S. Army base in the deep south at a time when full integration was still a dream.Drake was a draftee from Little Rock, Ark. trying to keep alive his dream of playing major league baseball while he was serving his country. Mitchell was the 7-year-old son of a career soldier returned from duty in Germany and new to the Georgia base. That summer, the young boy discovered the Fort Gordon Rams and a young, talented infielder who asked Mitchell if he wanted to be the bat boy."I could see he was interested in baseball," said Drake during lunch at a local restaurant Wednesday. Drake remembered when he fell in love with the game. The two played catch. Sometimes, Mitchell would go the base recreation center where Drake worked.They were so different in age and in race. Then, Mitchell was too young to understand what it meant to be a young black adult in Georgia. Drake, of course, did.A year or two after meeting, Mitchell's father was transferred to Taiwan. Mitchell got a baseball glove, a bat, a handshake, and much later, when he could fully understand, an outlook on life."Of all the hello's and good-bye's, his was the one I remember most," said Mitchell, while Drake nodded. "I knew a thank-you would be in order."Mitchell's story to this point became a column I wrote four years ago. Then, I couldn't reach Drake who had returned to his home in Los Angeles. Wednesday, at lunch, I introduced myself. Meeting Mitchell wasn't a coincidence, Drake said. There was a reason that maybe still isn't clear 50 years later.Drake was surprised, but not stunned when Mitchell walked up to his table at the hotel where the Mets reunion and autograph session took place. He's met a lot of people in his 74 years and has usually found the goodness in them, even under trying circumstances."At first I thought he as a typical fan," Drake said. "When he started talking about Fort Gordon I knew right away."Drake can't say he thought about Mitchell much over the years. Neither did he forget the young bat boy who would go to the gym to fold towels and stay out of the way of the soldiers.�"He would get picked on by the ballplayers a little bit. It was all in fun, but I could see it bothered him. I'd say, come with me. Let's play catch."Drake signed with the Chicago Cubs for $1,500 and was later assigned to Macon, Ga. to play for Pepper Martin in the so-called Sally League. He was the first African-American to play in the league he says. The most hurtful part of that season?"Not being able to sleep in the same hotels with my teammates. Not being able to eat with them. I could get carry-out or go across the river to a (black-owned restaurant.)"In the next breath, Drake tells of Martin's effort to get him seated with the team at a restaurant in Indiana. Martin, nicknamed the Wild Horse of the Osage, was a third baseman for the St. Louis Cardinals' "Gashouse Gang" in the 1930s and colorblind.Drake remembers one of his first trips to spring training with the Cubs after his two years in the Army. He was one of three black ballplayers in a group of 50 minor leaguers were assigned to a barracks-style building. "Every night I would pray. They must have thought I was from another planet."But I had a good spring training. When camp broke, everyone was on their knees praying but two."Monday, Mitchell and Drake had breakfast with Roger Katz, the mayor of Augusta and a baseball fan. Katz invited Drake to speak to the city council that night. He told the story of a Cubs tryout he attended in Winnipeg, Manitoba and the sore arm he had. He couldn't throw across the infield. Discouraged, he called the grandmother who raised him. Don't worry, he was told. She would pray for him."We had a big snowstorm," said Drake smiling. "We couldn't use the field for two weeks. I soaked my arm in the bath tub every day. I was ready."The Mets drafted him off the Cubs roster. His two-year, major league career was the proverbial cup of coffee. In 53 games he hit .153. His older brother, Solly, played parts of three seasons with the Cubs, Phillies and Dodgers. Together, they were the first African-American brothers to play major league baseball.Early Thursday morning, Drake said good-bye to Mitchell and his wife, Bonnie, and began his trip back to Los Angeles. A graduate of Philander Smith College in Little Rock, he's a retired investigator for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. He teaches Sunday School at the Greater Ebenezer Missionary Baptist Church, where his brother, the Rev. Dr. Solomon Drake, is pastor to a 6,000-member congregation.They've listened to the story of how a young white boy and a young black adult became lasting friends. It shouldn't be forgotten. Edgy DC Nov 19 2008 10:38 AMJack Aker, out of work and vulnerable like the rest of us.This old ballplayer understands life better than most by Rabbi Ben Kamin, Spiritual Life Examiner Jack Aker, a name known to aficionados of the national pastime, is something of a legend. But if his baseball card could talk, you�d hear a lot more than breezy play-by-play. Here�s a guy who made more appearances (495) as a relief pitcher than anybody in his time, but found himself taken out of the game quite before he expected. Like anybody suddenly not doing the thing we�ve been doing forever, Jack found himself looking down the abyss�he was tearful, anxious, and despondent.Baseball players are real people, in spite of the hype we impose on them, and their souls hurt, their spirits droop, just like all hard-working Americans.Jack won the Sporting News �Fireman of the Year� award in 1966 and played for the Kansas City and then Oakland Athletics, the Seattle Pilots, New York Yankees, Chicago Cubs, Atlanta Braves, and New York Mets. When I met him some years ago, he was pitching coach of the Cleveland Indians; I caught my breath short, extending and receiving hands of friendship with a living and breathing major leaguer who was on a first-name basis with such stars as Phil Niekro and Tom Seaver.I saw him at his tallest. Arriving on the green natural field before game time, Jack came for me, in full regalia�snappy cap and shimmering team jacket. He walked across fresh, chalky baselines with a certain, lanky royalty. There were the first faint smells of popcorn and beer from the bowels from the bowels of the old stadium as the coach escorted me into the clubhouse.Jack took me into a comfortably large room filled with open booths that served as repositories for the players. �Here,� he declared, �we meet and discuss the game plan.� Like a knothole sentry, he walked past the colognes and hair dryers of the bath area towards a large bin containing thick, polished baseball bats. He said, somberly: �Nobody can touch a man�s bat. You see, Ben, they are numbered according to his uniform number. The bat is a very personal matter to a guy. Nobody can touch it.�I understood what a sacrilege was and I shook my head in awe of power and success.A little over a year later, following a season of fallen expectations and profits, Jack (and the team manager) were both summarily dismissed from their positions. Now, this same Jack, record-holder, my invincible hero, sat in the front of my automobile, shoulders slumped, his head in his hands. We were taking a ride in the country as the venerable coach tried to sort things out.His prestige, his income, and his self-image were suddenly as powdery as the faded chalk lines of that emerald ball field he had once ruled. Jack was gone, the manager was gone, as well as a number of the muscular, sleek, swaggering players I had met that shining afternoon�in a different season.A person is so much more than his baseball card, her resume, his cellular list of �contacts.� Jack is doing okay, taking in his children and grandchildren, knowing well what it means to be laid off, discarded, discontinued. Maybe this old ballplayer understands America right now better than most.MFS62 Nov 19 2008 11:00 AMThank you, Edgy.Anyone who ever lost a job knows that you didn't have to bold that portion. We would have noticed it and commiserated(sp?) with Jack. But the way it was said was an unexpected pleasure in a piece like that, wasn't it?LaterEdgy DC Nov 19 2008 11:03 AMI was just imitating the original publishing, which set it as a pullquote.Farmer Ted Nov 19 2008 12:07 PMTim Foli will return to manage Washington's Class AAA affiliate in 2009.Met Hunter Nov 19 2008 10:37 PMJohn Stearns will be back managing the Nats AA team in Harrisburg as well.Benjamin Grimm Nov 20 2008 06:14 AMTim Bogar was among three who interviewed for a spot on the Phillies coaching staff.The problem is, they thought they were interviewing Doug Flynn.Edgy DC Nov 21 2008 10:06 AMJohn Nunnaly, batting coach with the Columbus Clippers.Edgy DC Nov 23 2008 08:56 PMJeff Innis, Cape Cod League Hall-of-Famer.Edgy DC Nov 28 2008 11:45 AMTim Bogar formally accepts the Red Sox offer to coach first.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 28 2008 12:37 PMThe last 5 or 6 messages belong in that other thread.Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 10:34 AMI consider coaching jobs part of retirement. Rico's was a coaching job.I hear you, though.Nonetheless, I'm sticking with it for one more thread, as Joe McEwing takes over the Winston-Salem Former Warthogs.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 10:43 AMJust for that it's my duty to report that Jason Hardtke has been named hitting coach of the Missoula Osprey (Dbaggs -Pioneer League). The Baggs also named Brett Butler manager of the Reno Aces (PCL).G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 01:04 PMI once received a letter letting me know Brett Butler would come and speak to my employees and motivate them with his life experiences and faith in Christ for only $20,000. How much is each Ace going to have to ante up for the privilege?Edgy DC Dec 16 2008 09:38 AMWest Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 09:56 AMYou must have overlooked Jerry Cram in your Google subscription:="Our Sports Central":3gap6pnt]SAN JOSE, CALIF December 15, 2008- The San Jose Giants announced their 2009 coaching staff today with Andy Skeels joining the club as manager, Jerry Cram as pitching coach and Gary Davenport returning as hitting coach. Yukiya Oba also returns as the team's athletic trainer....Jerry Cram is familiar with San Jose after spending three years as the Giants pitching coach from 2001-2003. The former major leaguer is now entering his ninth season in the San Francisco organization after working the last five years (2004-2008) as pitching coach of the Salem- Keizer Volcanoes (Short-Season). During his time in the Giants farm system, Cram's teams have won three league championships: San Jose in 2001 and Salem-Keizer in 2006 and 2007.Cram spent parts of four seasons in the major leagues with the Kansas City Royals (1969, 1976) and New York Mets (1974-1975), compiling a 0-3 record and 2.98 ERA over 23 career appearances. Cram has devoted 28 years to the Kansas City organization, the last 14 as a pitching instructor, in a tenure that ended in 1997. Cram then spent three seasons as a pitching coach in the Colorado Rockies minor league system before joining the San Francisco organization prior to the 2001 campaign....The San Jose Giants open their 2009 season on Thursday, April 9th at Municipal Stadium vs. the Stockton Ports. The Opening Night Extravaganza will include a post-game fireworks display, 2009 magnet schedule giveaway, the return of Gigante and much more. [/quote:3gap6pnt]metsguyinmichigan Dec 16 2008 12:29 PM="Edgy DC":3l94882y]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:3l94882y]The Whitecaps have a thing on Sunday afternoons where you can either go on the field to play catch, or go near the dugout where all the players stand in a line and sign autographs. (kids get a free soda and hot dog, too. We got to a lot of Sunday games.)So last year I brought my treasured Mets book, sought out DePastino to sign it and tried to talk to him about his short Mets tenure. Even though there was no one else around and nothing going on, he had absolutely nothing to say. Was disappointed. Maybe I'll have better luck with Benny.G-Fafif Dec 16 2008 12:37 PM="Edgy DC":1sfgljfz]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:1sfgljfz]What's Distefano's Met pedigree (other than breaking up David Cone's no-hitter?)At least this will give Distefano and DePastino a chance to exchange each other's misdirected mail.Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 12:49 PMHe was a replacement player with the Mets in spring training 1995.G-Fafif Dec 16 2008 12:59 PMNow that you say it, it sounds remotely familiar though I have to confess I might have missed it on a multiple choice. Any other ex-big leaguers in that camp?metsguyinmichigan Dec 16 2008 02:07 PMStan Jefferson, I think. I saw a couple of those spring games.HahnSolo Dec 16 2008 02:25 PM="G-Fafif":1lmhw7l1]="Edgy DC":1lmhw7l1]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:1lmhw7l1]What's Distefano's Met pedigree (other than breaking up David Cone's no-hitter?)At least this will give Distefano and DePastino a chance to exchange each other's misdirected mail.[/quote:1lmhw7l1]Italian restaurants in West Michigan are scurrying to bid for the postgame spread.HahnSolo Dec 16 2008 02:26 PM="metsguyinmichigan":2a90z7f9]Stan Jefferson, I think. I saw a couple of those spring games.[/quote:2a90z7f9]Two guys I went to high school with, Cliff Gonzalez (8th round pick of the Mets in '85) and Chris Walpole, were in that camp. Gonzalez and Jefferson knew each other having both been from Co-op City.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2008 09:11 AM] DYKSTRA DROPS THE BALLBy KEITH J. KELLYDecember 17, 2008 --FORMER New York Mets out fielder Lenny Dykstra appears to be striking out with his magazine, Players Club.Dykstra, who helped the 1986 Mets capture the World Series before landing with the Philadelphia Phillies, is leaving behind a string of unpaid bills and a constant parade of shifting editors and office addresses.In the latest upheaval, Chris Frankie, the acting editor, resigned Dec. 4 along with two other staffers. Now Loren Feldman, former editor-in-chief of Philadelphia magazine, is said to be ready to join as the new chief editor."Loren Feldman is the new editor," said Dykstra.Meanwhile, Frankie says he's owed back pay.But Dykstra sees things differently: "That's not true. Frankie owes me money. Whatever he's talking about is delusional."Counters Frankie, "That's beyond ridiculous. How could an employee owe an employer money?"Beyond three months' back pay, Frankie said he's also owed for business expenses.Frankie, who had originally helped Dykstra write the TheStreet.com's "Nails on the Numbers" column, got the editor job in August after Dykstra's talks with Neil Amdur, a former sports editor at The New York Times, collapsed at the last minute after a fight over Amdur's ability to hire deputies."I did fly out there for a meeting with Dykstra about the editor's job," Amdur confirmed. "I spent a couple of days with him. He did offer me the job."The last issue of Players Club was published in October, and the November issue will now be combined into a year-end double issue that has yet to appear.His aim with the magazine was to help professional athletes make sensible investments with the money they earn from sports to ensure they don't go broke when their pro careers end.But present and former staffers say that Dykstra, who during his days with Major League Baseball had the nickname "Nails," is tough as nails when it comes to paying his staff or vendors.Frequently, sources said, he got staff to use their own credit cards to pay for ex penses related to the maga zine, and took months to re imburse the employees.Although the magazine is less than a year old, it has al ready had four different printers and three different editors. Several vendors have also stopped doing business with the magazine.The latest vendor to suspend business is Getty Images, which sources say is owed around $40,000.Dykstra claims that's not true. "I have a great relationship with them," he said of Getty.One source who's worked closely with Dykstra said he "has a haphazard way of paying - he just wires you money.""It's always that the money is just about to come in and everyone will be paid," this person said, adding that if someone demands payment, then Dykstra turns on them. "If you demand payment, then you are the enemy."He always feels abandoned by people, but he doesn't seem to realize that he's the reason people abandon him."Frayed Knot Dec 17 2008 09:24 AMThis surprises me not.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2008 09:26 AMGotta love the irony in this venture being all about athletes spending wisely.Edgy DC Dec 17 2008 09:26 AMAnother day, another house of cards.Edgy DC Dec 22 2008 03:04 PMAaron Ledesma, infield coach for the Scranton-Wilkes Barre Yankees.The Yankees get a AAA infield coach? What a ripoff!Frayed Knot Dec 22 2008 07:36 PMMike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.Edgy DC Dec 26 2008 08:28 AMDJ has no regrets. Of course he doesn't. He got to be a Met.D.J. Dozier had a Bo Jackson-like versatilityPosted to: 50 Greatest SportsBy Ed MillerThe Virginian-PilotAs William, Bill, or even Billy, it just would not have worked as well. William Henry "D.J." Dozier would have been no less the athlete without that alliterative name, smooth as one of his touchdown runs or fielding gems at shortstop. That name - "D.J. Dozier" - was the shiny bow on top of the package of prep stardom.And Dozier was the complete package: a three-sport standout at Kempsville High, wooed by virtually every major football program in the country, coveted by virtually every pro baseball scout.Virginia Tech coach Bill Dooley came to the Norfolk Sports Club in December 1982 and made a public pitch for Dozier, something that would not be allowed under recruiting rules today, when coaches can't woo prospects through the media. Major league teams waved dollar signs in front of him, trying to convince him to skip football and play baseball.Dozier, No. 12 on the list of greatest athletes from South Hampton Roads, chose football - and Penn State. Later, after several years in the NFL, he reversed course and picked up a bat and glove. Good enough to briefly make it to the majors, he was, in an era of two-sport dabblers, a local, lower-wattage version of guys such as Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders."Obviously, when you look at the statistics, the numbers are certainly not what I hoped they would have been," said Dozier, now 43 and back in Virginia Beach working as a business consultant. "But the fact that I had the opportunity to go that far with what I would call God-given ability is a tremendous blessing."A dynamo at Penn State, Dozier forever will be a made man among Nittany Lion greats after leading the team in rushing four straight years, earning All-America honors twice and scoring the winning touchdown in a national championship victory over Miami.Things never clicked for him in the NFL, though. A first-round pick, Dozier missed time with injuries and didn't like the way the Vikings were using him - which was not too often. After three years, he signed with the Mets and began the climb through the minors in 1990. Meanwhile, contract talks with the Vikings stalled. Dozier finally re-signed with them halfway through the 1990 season.Dozier finished out that season and played six games with Detroit in 1991. With his baseball career seemingly blossoming, he left football behind.He would play just 25 games for the Mets, though, in 1992. In 1994, at 28, he moved on with his life, retiring from baseball.Dozier has coached, traveled the world doing missionary work, worked as a financial planner and investment banker. He moved back to Virginia recently from Allentown, Pa.He brought with him no regrets.Dozier said he remembered a former Kempsville teammate who played at Lock Haven University. Dozier knew he was good enough to play at Penn State and told his coaches. They offered him a chance to come to Happy Valley. In the end, though, the friend chose the security of staying at Lock Haven, later second-guessing his decision not to take his shot."I never forgot what he told me about the regret part of it," Dozier said. "That's what it was for me with baseball. I look at it as something that was a bit nuts, but I really felt that I could do it."The biggest thing about it is I didn't want to look back and regret not trying."He'll never have to.Ed Miller, (757) 446-2372 ed.miller@pilotonline.commetsguyinmichigan Dec 26 2008 11:17 AMThat's a nice story! Plus, I'd forgotten how nasty those old Tides caps were.G-Fafif Dec 26 2008 01:32 PM="Frayed Knot":34ueq9bz]Mike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.[/quote:34ueq9bz]How do you suppose he'll greet his new players...or monstrously huge batboy?themetfairy Dec 26 2008 02:12 PM="G-Fafif":1emwxaju]="Frayed Knot":1emwxaju]Mike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.[/quote:1emwxaju]How do you suppose he'll greet his new players...or monstrously huge batboy?[/quote:1emwxaju]No - just with a simple, "Welcome Abordick," of course!Edgy DC Dec 30 2008 07:42 AMFelix Mantilla, spreading the good chromosomes around.Mantilla earning court time at YaleDecember 30, 2008 NEWS-SUN STAFF REPORTMundelein High grad Raffi Mantilla has worked his way into the playing rotation for the Yale University men's basketball team.The sophomore guard has played in all eight Bulldog games (2-6 record), and is averaging nearly 10 minutes of action each game.He's scored a total of 18 points in those eight contests.Mantilla is the grandson of former major-league baseball player Felix Mantilla, who played with the Milwaukee Braves, New York Mets and Boston Red Sox in a long pro career.MFS62 Jan 03 2009 02:29 PMIn keeping with the three name thread in the non-baseball forum, I'll always remember him as Felix Lamela Mantilla. (I dunno why, but his middle name always stuck in my mind)LaterEdgy DC Jan 03 2009 02:31 PMYup, and time to retire Brogna 2008.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Dan Reilly, knew when to keep his mouth shut.Check out the piping on ihs original uni.Villager photo by Will McKinleyDan Reilly, the original Mr. Met, at Shea Stadium recently. Reilly with his Mr. Met baseball head back in the mid-1960s when he was the team�s mascot at home games.Mr. Met recalls heady times as first mascot for Amazin�sBy WILL McKINLEYDozens of Mets legends were honored at Shea Stadium�s closing ceremony last month, from Tom Seaver to Mike Piazza and all the lesser lights in between. But one seminal figure in the team�s history was conspicuous by his absence. Dan Reilly, the first man to wear the costume of iconic mascot Mr. Met, watched the bittersweet festivities at home on TV like an ordinary fan. But the longtime Soho resident and author of the new book �The Original Mr. Met Remembers,� is anything but. �I�m disappointed they didn�t invite me back, but I�m not angry,� said Reilly, who played the Mets mascot on and off the field from 1964 through 1967, the first three of his nine years with the club. �Seaver, Koosman, Swoboda, all those guys were my buddies. And I figured they�d like to see me again, too, just to say hello, a few handshakes, keep in touch. They all still call me Mr. Met.�Now 70 and retired, Reilly�s ties with the team go back to Shea�s inaugural season, when he joined the Mets ticket sales staff two months before the debut of their new home.�It was a snowy February morning the day of my interview,� Reilly said last week, as he walked the grounds of the soon-to-be-demolished stadium. �From the outside, it looked like an orange-and-blue skeleton. Nothing was happening and nobody was around. Inside, they were still putting the seats in. And now I�m watching them take those seats out. It�s sad.�Sadness is not an emotion readily associated with Reilly, a jovial, outgoing raconteur who worked in the restaurant business after leaving the Mets in 1972, and recently concluded a four-year stint as the host of game-day ferry rides to Shea. On boat or barstool, the Richmond Hill, Queens, native spins colorful tales of the early days of the Amazin� Mets with a hearty laugh and, on this occasion, a misty eye. �We were a small organization back then, no superstars,� said Reilly, clad in a Mets jersey and still using �we� and �us� when referring to the team he left 36 years ago. �I drank with those guys. I knew where all the good Irish bars in Queens were. And I knew when to keep my mouth shut. That�s why everyone liked me.�Reilly was front and center for nearly all of the significant events of the team�s first decade: Shea�s first opening day; the 1964 All-Star Game; Casey Stengel�s on-field 75th birthday celebration and the infamous after-party at Toots Shor�s, where the legendary manager broke his hip and ended his career; the arrival of 1967 Rookie of the Year Seaver; the managerial tenure of Reilly�s boyhood idol Gil Hodges and, most memorably, the Miracle Mets World Series victory on Oct. 16, 1969.�As soon as that game was over, I ran from the press box down to the clubhouse,� Reilly said 39 years and one day later, as he traced the trajectory from the top of the stadium to the bottom with his finger. �There�s a picture of me in the 1970 yearbook, being doused with champagne by Jerry Grote. Those were my guys. They were the best.�In addition to his daily responsibilities, first in ticket sales and later in the promotions department, Reilly also served as the V.I.P. handler for visiting celebrities and politicians, ran the Mets Speakers Bureau program and filled in as public address announcer at Shea for three weeks in 1966. He also wished four members of a British rock band good luck as they ran on to the field for an August 1965 concert.�I said, �Break a leg, guys,� and one of them said, �Thanks mate!�� Reilly remembered. �I don�t know which one it was because I didn�t know who The Beatles were back then.�But Reilly�s fondest memories began on May 31, 1964, when he donned the papier-m�ch�, baseball-shaped head of the first mascot in Major League Baseball history. The Mets lost both sides of a doubleheader that day to the Giants, whose defection to California with the Brooklyn Dodgers after the 1957 season inspired attorney Bill Shea�s successful crusade to bring National League baseball back to New York. But, between games of that doubleheader, a star was born. �The stadium was packed and I was nervous,� Reilly said with a laugh. �They had told me to play it straight, just walk out there and wave, but the kids started swarming down to meet me in the stands. I shook hands, posed for pictures, signed autographs. After that, I got cocky and started dancing. It was an instant hit. Back then, the fans might not have recognized the players, but they always recognized Mr. Met.� As Reilly remembered the glories of four decades past, he struck up a conversation with a current Mets fan, 48-year-old software engineer Mark Szemberski, who was snapping photos of the now-shuttered stadium. �Of all people to meet, the last time I�m at Shea � Mr. Met!� Szemberski exclaimed, as he posed for a picture with the unlikely celebrity. �You made my day. I hope they invite you back when they open the new stadium.�Reilly handed Szemberski his business card, which features a photo of his younger self in a regulation Mets uniform, holding the outsized head that made him famous. The original Mr. Met is smiling broadly, as always. �Baseball is tradition,� Reilly said, as he bid final farewell to Shea from a departing 7 train. �Mr. Met touched people then, and he still does. I think it�s important to remember how we used to do it, what Shea used to be like. If we do, there will always be a Shea Stadium.��The Original Mr. Met Remembers: When the Miracle Began� (138 pages) is available at iUniverse.com.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 The uniform on the right suggests that photo is from '86 (racing stripes and anniversary logo), not from the early sixties.(I see Edgy beat me to that).
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Yeah - something's wrong there.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 I'd guess that in 1986 he was just visiting with his old head.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 ="Benjamin Grimm":36b19cxk]I'd guess that in 1986 he was just visiting with his old head.[/quote:36b19cxk]Possibly for a 25th anniversary event, which would make sense.Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 02:40 PMThe High-A Inland Empire 66ers of San Bernardino (real name!) have announced their coaching staff, including John Valentin as batting coach and Charlie Hough as pitching coach.I confused Hough with Verne Ruhle and thought he was dead.Edgy DC Nov 10 2008 02:45 PMCandidates being looked at for the Seattle managerial job include Jose Oquendo, the prototype for Rey Ordoñez; Joey Cora, who managed for the Mets in the minors, and Randy Ready, who has one of the porniest names in baseball history.sharpie Nov 11 2008 11:36 AMSoon we can enjoy the literary stylings of Mike Piazza:Mike Piazza, a 12-time All Star for the Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Mets, has signed a deal to write his autobiography for Simon & Schuster. V-p and senior editor Bob Bender acquired world rights from David Black, CEO of Black Inc., and Dan Lozano, Piazza�s sports agent. Publication is slated for 2010. In the book, Piazza, who retired just before the 2008 season, will discuss controversies of his career, including the 2000 World Series incident when Roger Clemens threw a shattered bat at him, and the press conference he held to deny rumors that he was gay. The autobiography will also cover Piazza�s tumultuous relationships with the Dodgers, their front office and Tommy Lasorda; as well as his former teammates Bobby Valentine, Pedro Martinez, Rickey Henderson and others.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 11:40 AMHe actually retired well into the 2008 season when he hadn't gotten interest from anybody. And Bobby Valentine wasn't his teammate.Who writes press releases these days?John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 11 2008 11:47 AMWho cares. I'm going to read the hell out of that book.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 11:52 AMIf'n I were you, I contact that agent NOW!!!! and show him your writin' credentials.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 11:55 AMGood thought.Writing the hell out of the book would be even better than reading the hell out of it.HahnSolo Nov 11 2008 12:19 PMKnowing the publishing industry as I do, I can tell you that acquiring editor had absolutely no interest in the writin' credentials in the manuscript and cared primarily about the name on page 1.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 12:21 PMSo Piazza now shops around for a ghost, I suppose?I figure he'll go with a sportswriter he had a good relationship with during his playing days.G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:23 PMOr a David Frum/Michael Gershon otherwise underemployed wordsmith of the right. Mike goes that way.HahnSolo Nov 11 2008 12:25 PM="Benjamin Grimm":r3mb7fqz]So Piazza now shops around for a ghost, I suppose?I figure he'll go with a sportswriter he had a good relationship with during his playing days.[/quote:r3mb7fqz]I doubt Piazza does the shopping unless there's a writer he was really close to and insists on using him. Otherwise, I expect the literary agent would work with the publisher to find someone.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 12:28 PMWhich is fucking why you should be acting NOW!!!!G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:30 PMI'm Richie Hebner for another eight posts or so. I'm not going out of my way to pick up any ground balls for a little while.sharpie Nov 11 2008 12:32 PMDavid Black, the agent, reps many bigtime sportswriters (including Mitch Albom of "Tuesdays With Morrie" fame). Piazza would have already come attached with a writer by the time the deal was made.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 12:32 PMI don't want to stir up an ugly intramural competition, but GFafif should also throw his hat in the ring.G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:40 PM="Benjamin Grimm":3prysgfg]I don't want to stir up an ugly intramural competition, but GFafif should also throw his hat in the ring.[/quote:3prysgfg]Thanks, but first I have to finish my "as told to myself" thing.After I stop being Richie Hebner.Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 10:23 AMFormer Pitchers Leading Today's Brogna News:Hideo Nomo, teaching the forkball to young buffalos.Frank Viola, getting into the analyst game.Tom Seaver, advising the youth of today and liquoring up Tommy Davis.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 12 2008 10:41 AMRead also where Leiter was joining the staff at MLB-TV. I guess that means he's leaving the NO! network.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 08:14 AMSo, if you're like me, you grew sick of stories of Lenny Dykstra, swinging finance trader, about two paragraphs into the first one, but now the angle isn't that he's just another player, but that he's actually flourishing during these hard times. The claim is that he's 82-0 in stock picks endorsed in his newsletter.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 01:36 PMRick Sweet returning as manager of the Louisville Bats.Local favorite Roger Mason joins the Traverse City Beach Bums as pitching coach.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 13 2008 01:38 PMRon Gardenhire gets an extension.Leiter btw, will still work for Al-Yankazeera. Reynolds tho is out at SNY, raising speculation that Bobby Ojeda is on his way in.I think I speak for everyone ever by saying it would be nice to mix a 73er or 99-00er in there.TransMonk Nov 13 2008 01:42 PM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1jn4n2h7]I think I speak for everyone ever by saying it would be nice to mix a 73er or 99-00er in there.[/quote:1jn4n2h7]Didn't Zeile get a shot once?Benjamin Grimm Nov 13 2008 01:44 PMI was thinking a 69er: Ron Swoboda.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 05:02 PMSam Perlozzo joins the Phils. Bang.metsguyinmichigan Nov 13 2008 11:01 PM="Edgy DC":828l4i24]Rick Sweet returning as manager of the Louisville Bats.Local favorite Roger Mason joins the Traverse City Beach Bums as pitching coach.[/quote:828l4i24]Traverse City is a beautiful resort area about two hours north of me. The team is fairly new, and plays in an independent league.We used to play in an all-newspaper softball tournament in Traverse, and it was fun until the Detroit News took it over and started stacking its team with ringers who didn't work for the paper. Cads!I'll have to head up this summer and see a game and talk to Mason!Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 10:19 AMHoly Foli, Batman, it's Sammy Drake! In a Mets hat!An old friendship, forged 50 years ago, is rekindledAUGUSTA -- It was the New York Mets cap on his head. This being Red Sox country, people had to stop the athletic, older man this week and ask."What's up with the hat?"That's when C. Wayne Mitchell glanced at his guest and stepped in. "This is Sammy Drake. Don't you know who he is?"No one did, to the amusement of both men."He's an original member of the Mets," Mitchell would tell them. "He's my friend."It's a friendship forged nearly 50 years ago, interrupted by decades of separation and searching by Mitchell and resumed about four years ago. Mitchell's family, aware of his wish to reconnect, trolled the Internet, finding Drake at a Mets reunion in New Jersey.Sunday, Drake came to Mitchell's home in Sidney for a four-day visit. They laughed and joked and marveled again at the strength of a relationship neither fully understood when it began on a hot U.S. Army base in the deep south at a time when full integration was still a dream.Drake was a draftee from Little Rock, Ark. trying to keep alive his dream of playing major league baseball while he was serving his country. Mitchell was the 7-year-old son of a career soldier returned from duty in Germany and new to the Georgia base. That summer, the young boy discovered the Fort Gordon Rams and a young, talented infielder who asked Mitchell if he wanted to be the bat boy."I could see he was interested in baseball," said Drake during lunch at a local restaurant Wednesday. Drake remembered when he fell in love with the game. The two played catch. Sometimes, Mitchell would go the base recreation center where Drake worked.They were so different in age and in race. Then, Mitchell was too young to understand what it meant to be a young black adult in Georgia. Drake, of course, did.A year or two after meeting, Mitchell's father was transferred to Taiwan. Mitchell got a baseball glove, a bat, a handshake, and much later, when he could fully understand, an outlook on life."Of all the hello's and good-bye's, his was the one I remember most," said Mitchell, while Drake nodded. "I knew a thank-you would be in order."Mitchell's story to this point became a column I wrote four years ago. Then, I couldn't reach Drake who had returned to his home in Los Angeles. Wednesday, at lunch, I introduced myself. Meeting Mitchell wasn't a coincidence, Drake said. There was a reason that maybe still isn't clear 50 years later.Drake was surprised, but not stunned when Mitchell walked up to his table at the hotel where the Mets reunion and autograph session took place. He's met a lot of people in his 74 years and has usually found the goodness in them, even under trying circumstances."At first I thought he as a typical fan," Drake said. "When he started talking about Fort Gordon I knew right away."Drake can't say he thought about Mitchell much over the years. Neither did he forget the young bat boy who would go to the gym to fold towels and stay out of the way of the soldiers.�"He would get picked on by the ballplayers a little bit. It was all in fun, but I could see it bothered him. I'd say, come with me. Let's play catch."Drake signed with the Chicago Cubs for $1,500 and was later assigned to Macon, Ga. to play for Pepper Martin in the so-called Sally League. He was the first African-American to play in the league he says. The most hurtful part of that season?"Not being able to sleep in the same hotels with my teammates. Not being able to eat with them. I could get carry-out or go across the river to a (black-owned restaurant.)"In the next breath, Drake tells of Martin's effort to get him seated with the team at a restaurant in Indiana. Martin, nicknamed the Wild Horse of the Osage, was a third baseman for the St. Louis Cardinals' "Gashouse Gang" in the 1930s and colorblind.Drake remembers one of his first trips to spring training with the Cubs after his two years in the Army. He was one of three black ballplayers in a group of 50 minor leaguers were assigned to a barracks-style building. "Every night I would pray. They must have thought I was from another planet."But I had a good spring training. When camp broke, everyone was on their knees praying but two."Monday, Mitchell and Drake had breakfast with Roger Katz, the mayor of Augusta and a baseball fan. Katz invited Drake to speak to the city council that night. He told the story of a Cubs tryout he attended in Winnipeg, Manitoba and the sore arm he had. He couldn't throw across the infield. Discouraged, he called the grandmother who raised him. Don't worry, he was told. She would pray for him."We had a big snowstorm," said Drake smiling. "We couldn't use the field for two weeks. I soaked my arm in the bath tub every day. I was ready."The Mets drafted him off the Cubs roster. His two-year, major league career was the proverbial cup of coffee. In 53 games he hit .153. His older brother, Solly, played parts of three seasons with the Cubs, Phillies and Dodgers. Together, they were the first African-American brothers to play major league baseball.Early Thursday morning, Drake said good-bye to Mitchell and his wife, Bonnie, and began his trip back to Los Angeles. A graduate of Philander Smith College in Little Rock, he's a retired investigator for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. He teaches Sunday School at the Greater Ebenezer Missionary Baptist Church, where his brother, the Rev. Dr. Solomon Drake, is pastor to a 6,000-member congregation.They've listened to the story of how a young white boy and a young black adult became lasting friends. It shouldn't be forgotten. Edgy DC Nov 19 2008 10:38 AMJack Aker, out of work and vulnerable like the rest of us.This old ballplayer understands life better than most by Rabbi Ben Kamin, Spiritual Life Examiner Jack Aker, a name known to aficionados of the national pastime, is something of a legend. But if his baseball card could talk, you�d hear a lot more than breezy play-by-play. Here�s a guy who made more appearances (495) as a relief pitcher than anybody in his time, but found himself taken out of the game quite before he expected. Like anybody suddenly not doing the thing we�ve been doing forever, Jack found himself looking down the abyss�he was tearful, anxious, and despondent.Baseball players are real people, in spite of the hype we impose on them, and their souls hurt, their spirits droop, just like all hard-working Americans.Jack won the Sporting News �Fireman of the Year� award in 1966 and played for the Kansas City and then Oakland Athletics, the Seattle Pilots, New York Yankees, Chicago Cubs, Atlanta Braves, and New York Mets. When I met him some years ago, he was pitching coach of the Cleveland Indians; I caught my breath short, extending and receiving hands of friendship with a living and breathing major leaguer who was on a first-name basis with such stars as Phil Niekro and Tom Seaver.I saw him at his tallest. Arriving on the green natural field before game time, Jack came for me, in full regalia�snappy cap and shimmering team jacket. He walked across fresh, chalky baselines with a certain, lanky royalty. There were the first faint smells of popcorn and beer from the bowels from the bowels of the old stadium as the coach escorted me into the clubhouse.Jack took me into a comfortably large room filled with open booths that served as repositories for the players. �Here,� he declared, �we meet and discuss the game plan.� Like a knothole sentry, he walked past the colognes and hair dryers of the bath area towards a large bin containing thick, polished baseball bats. He said, somberly: �Nobody can touch a man�s bat. You see, Ben, they are numbered according to his uniform number. The bat is a very personal matter to a guy. Nobody can touch it.�I understood what a sacrilege was and I shook my head in awe of power and success.A little over a year later, following a season of fallen expectations and profits, Jack (and the team manager) were both summarily dismissed from their positions. Now, this same Jack, record-holder, my invincible hero, sat in the front of my automobile, shoulders slumped, his head in his hands. We were taking a ride in the country as the venerable coach tried to sort things out.His prestige, his income, and his self-image were suddenly as powdery as the faded chalk lines of that emerald ball field he had once ruled. Jack was gone, the manager was gone, as well as a number of the muscular, sleek, swaggering players I had met that shining afternoon�in a different season.A person is so much more than his baseball card, her resume, his cellular list of �contacts.� Jack is doing okay, taking in his children and grandchildren, knowing well what it means to be laid off, discarded, discontinued. Maybe this old ballplayer understands America right now better than most.MFS62 Nov 19 2008 11:00 AMThank you, Edgy.Anyone who ever lost a job knows that you didn't have to bold that portion. We would have noticed it and commiserated(sp?) with Jack. But the way it was said was an unexpected pleasure in a piece like that, wasn't it?LaterEdgy DC Nov 19 2008 11:03 AMI was just imitating the original publishing, which set it as a pullquote.Farmer Ted Nov 19 2008 12:07 PMTim Foli will return to manage Washington's Class AAA affiliate in 2009.Met Hunter Nov 19 2008 10:37 PMJohn Stearns will be back managing the Nats AA team in Harrisburg as well.Benjamin Grimm Nov 20 2008 06:14 AMTim Bogar was among three who interviewed for a spot on the Phillies coaching staff.The problem is, they thought they were interviewing Doug Flynn.Edgy DC Nov 21 2008 10:06 AMJohn Nunnaly, batting coach with the Columbus Clippers.Edgy DC Nov 23 2008 08:56 PMJeff Innis, Cape Cod League Hall-of-Famer.Edgy DC Nov 28 2008 11:45 AMTim Bogar formally accepts the Red Sox offer to coach first.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 28 2008 12:37 PMThe last 5 or 6 messages belong in that other thread.Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 10:34 AMI consider coaching jobs part of retirement. Rico's was a coaching job.I hear you, though.Nonetheless, I'm sticking with it for one more thread, as Joe McEwing takes over the Winston-Salem Former Warthogs.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 10:43 AMJust for that it's my duty to report that Jason Hardtke has been named hitting coach of the Missoula Osprey (Dbaggs -Pioneer League). The Baggs also named Brett Butler manager of the Reno Aces (PCL).G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 01:04 PMI once received a letter letting me know Brett Butler would come and speak to my employees and motivate them with his life experiences and faith in Christ for only $20,000. How much is each Ace going to have to ante up for the privilege?Edgy DC Dec 16 2008 09:38 AMWest Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 09:56 AMYou must have overlooked Jerry Cram in your Google subscription:="Our Sports Central":3gap6pnt]SAN JOSE, CALIF December 15, 2008- The San Jose Giants announced their 2009 coaching staff today with Andy Skeels joining the club as manager, Jerry Cram as pitching coach and Gary Davenport returning as hitting coach. Yukiya Oba also returns as the team's athletic trainer....Jerry Cram is familiar with San Jose after spending three years as the Giants pitching coach from 2001-2003. The former major leaguer is now entering his ninth season in the San Francisco organization after working the last five years (2004-2008) as pitching coach of the Salem- Keizer Volcanoes (Short-Season). During his time in the Giants farm system, Cram's teams have won three league championships: San Jose in 2001 and Salem-Keizer in 2006 and 2007.Cram spent parts of four seasons in the major leagues with the Kansas City Royals (1969, 1976) and New York Mets (1974-1975), compiling a 0-3 record and 2.98 ERA over 23 career appearances. Cram has devoted 28 years to the Kansas City organization, the last 14 as a pitching instructor, in a tenure that ended in 1997. Cram then spent three seasons as a pitching coach in the Colorado Rockies minor league system before joining the San Francisco organization prior to the 2001 campaign....The San Jose Giants open their 2009 season on Thursday, April 9th at Municipal Stadium vs. the Stockton Ports. The Opening Night Extravaganza will include a post-game fireworks display, 2009 magnet schedule giveaway, the return of Gigante and much more. [/quote:3gap6pnt]metsguyinmichigan Dec 16 2008 12:29 PM="Edgy DC":3l94882y]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:3l94882y]The Whitecaps have a thing on Sunday afternoons where you can either go on the field to play catch, or go near the dugout where all the players stand in a line and sign autographs. (kids get a free soda and hot dog, too. We got to a lot of Sunday games.)So last year I brought my treasured Mets book, sought out DePastino to sign it and tried to talk to him about his short Mets tenure. Even though there was no one else around and nothing going on, he had absolutely nothing to say. Was disappointed. Maybe I'll have better luck with Benny.G-Fafif Dec 16 2008 12:37 PM="Edgy DC":1sfgljfz]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:1sfgljfz]What's Distefano's Met pedigree (other than breaking up David Cone's no-hitter?)At least this will give Distefano and DePastino a chance to exchange each other's misdirected mail.Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 12:49 PMHe was a replacement player with the Mets in spring training 1995.G-Fafif Dec 16 2008 12:59 PMNow that you say it, it sounds remotely familiar though I have to confess I might have missed it on a multiple choice. Any other ex-big leaguers in that camp?metsguyinmichigan Dec 16 2008 02:07 PMStan Jefferson, I think. I saw a couple of those spring games.HahnSolo Dec 16 2008 02:25 PM="G-Fafif":1lmhw7l1]="Edgy DC":1lmhw7l1]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:1lmhw7l1]What's Distefano's Met pedigree (other than breaking up David Cone's no-hitter?)At least this will give Distefano and DePastino a chance to exchange each other's misdirected mail.[/quote:1lmhw7l1]Italian restaurants in West Michigan are scurrying to bid for the postgame spread.HahnSolo Dec 16 2008 02:26 PM="metsguyinmichigan":2a90z7f9]Stan Jefferson, I think. I saw a couple of those spring games.[/quote:2a90z7f9]Two guys I went to high school with, Cliff Gonzalez (8th round pick of the Mets in '85) and Chris Walpole, were in that camp. Gonzalez and Jefferson knew each other having both been from Co-op City.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2008 09:11 AM] DYKSTRA DROPS THE BALLBy KEITH J. KELLYDecember 17, 2008 --FORMER New York Mets out fielder Lenny Dykstra appears to be striking out with his magazine, Players Club.Dykstra, who helped the 1986 Mets capture the World Series before landing with the Philadelphia Phillies, is leaving behind a string of unpaid bills and a constant parade of shifting editors and office addresses.In the latest upheaval, Chris Frankie, the acting editor, resigned Dec. 4 along with two other staffers. Now Loren Feldman, former editor-in-chief of Philadelphia magazine, is said to be ready to join as the new chief editor."Loren Feldman is the new editor," said Dykstra.Meanwhile, Frankie says he's owed back pay.But Dykstra sees things differently: "That's not true. Frankie owes me money. Whatever he's talking about is delusional."Counters Frankie, "That's beyond ridiculous. How could an employee owe an employer money?"Beyond three months' back pay, Frankie said he's also owed for business expenses.Frankie, who had originally helped Dykstra write the TheStreet.com's "Nails on the Numbers" column, got the editor job in August after Dykstra's talks with Neil Amdur, a former sports editor at The New York Times, collapsed at the last minute after a fight over Amdur's ability to hire deputies."I did fly out there for a meeting with Dykstra about the editor's job," Amdur confirmed. "I spent a couple of days with him. He did offer me the job."The last issue of Players Club was published in October, and the November issue will now be combined into a year-end double issue that has yet to appear.His aim with the magazine was to help professional athletes make sensible investments with the money they earn from sports to ensure they don't go broke when their pro careers end.But present and former staffers say that Dykstra, who during his days with Major League Baseball had the nickname "Nails," is tough as nails when it comes to paying his staff or vendors.Frequently, sources said, he got staff to use their own credit cards to pay for ex penses related to the maga zine, and took months to re imburse the employees.Although the magazine is less than a year old, it has al ready had four different printers and three different editors. Several vendors have also stopped doing business with the magazine.The latest vendor to suspend business is Getty Images, which sources say is owed around $40,000.Dykstra claims that's not true. "I have a great relationship with them," he said of Getty.One source who's worked closely with Dykstra said he "has a haphazard way of paying - he just wires you money.""It's always that the money is just about to come in and everyone will be paid," this person said, adding that if someone demands payment, then Dykstra turns on them. "If you demand payment, then you are the enemy."He always feels abandoned by people, but he doesn't seem to realize that he's the reason people abandon him."Frayed Knot Dec 17 2008 09:24 AMThis surprises me not.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2008 09:26 AMGotta love the irony in this venture being all about athletes spending wisely.Edgy DC Dec 17 2008 09:26 AMAnother day, another house of cards.Edgy DC Dec 22 2008 03:04 PMAaron Ledesma, infield coach for the Scranton-Wilkes Barre Yankees.The Yankees get a AAA infield coach? What a ripoff!Frayed Knot Dec 22 2008 07:36 PMMike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.Edgy DC Dec 26 2008 08:28 AMDJ has no regrets. Of course he doesn't. He got to be a Met.D.J. Dozier had a Bo Jackson-like versatilityPosted to: 50 Greatest SportsBy Ed MillerThe Virginian-PilotAs William, Bill, or even Billy, it just would not have worked as well. William Henry "D.J." Dozier would have been no less the athlete without that alliterative name, smooth as one of his touchdown runs or fielding gems at shortstop. That name - "D.J. Dozier" - was the shiny bow on top of the package of prep stardom.And Dozier was the complete package: a three-sport standout at Kempsville High, wooed by virtually every major football program in the country, coveted by virtually every pro baseball scout.Virginia Tech coach Bill Dooley came to the Norfolk Sports Club in December 1982 and made a public pitch for Dozier, something that would not be allowed under recruiting rules today, when coaches can't woo prospects through the media. Major league teams waved dollar signs in front of him, trying to convince him to skip football and play baseball.Dozier, No. 12 on the list of greatest athletes from South Hampton Roads, chose football - and Penn State. Later, after several years in the NFL, he reversed course and picked up a bat and glove. Good enough to briefly make it to the majors, he was, in an era of two-sport dabblers, a local, lower-wattage version of guys such as Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders."Obviously, when you look at the statistics, the numbers are certainly not what I hoped they would have been," said Dozier, now 43 and back in Virginia Beach working as a business consultant. "But the fact that I had the opportunity to go that far with what I would call God-given ability is a tremendous blessing."A dynamo at Penn State, Dozier forever will be a made man among Nittany Lion greats after leading the team in rushing four straight years, earning All-America honors twice and scoring the winning touchdown in a national championship victory over Miami.Things never clicked for him in the NFL, though. A first-round pick, Dozier missed time with injuries and didn't like the way the Vikings were using him - which was not too often. After three years, he signed with the Mets and began the climb through the minors in 1990. Meanwhile, contract talks with the Vikings stalled. Dozier finally re-signed with them halfway through the 1990 season.Dozier finished out that season and played six games with Detroit in 1991. With his baseball career seemingly blossoming, he left football behind.He would play just 25 games for the Mets, though, in 1992. In 1994, at 28, he moved on with his life, retiring from baseball.Dozier has coached, traveled the world doing missionary work, worked as a financial planner and investment banker. He moved back to Virginia recently from Allentown, Pa.He brought with him no regrets.Dozier said he remembered a former Kempsville teammate who played at Lock Haven University. Dozier knew he was good enough to play at Penn State and told his coaches. They offered him a chance to come to Happy Valley. In the end, though, the friend chose the security of staying at Lock Haven, later second-guessing his decision not to take his shot."I never forgot what he told me about the regret part of it," Dozier said. "That's what it was for me with baseball. I look at it as something that was a bit nuts, but I really felt that I could do it."The biggest thing about it is I didn't want to look back and regret not trying."He'll never have to.Ed Miller, (757) 446-2372 ed.miller@pilotonline.commetsguyinmichigan Dec 26 2008 11:17 AMThat's a nice story! Plus, I'd forgotten how nasty those old Tides caps were.G-Fafif Dec 26 2008 01:32 PM="Frayed Knot":34ueq9bz]Mike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.[/quote:34ueq9bz]How do you suppose he'll greet his new players...or monstrously huge batboy?themetfairy Dec 26 2008 02:12 PM="G-Fafif":1emwxaju]="Frayed Knot":1emwxaju]Mike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.[/quote:1emwxaju]How do you suppose he'll greet his new players...or monstrously huge batboy?[/quote:1emwxaju]No - just with a simple, "Welcome Abordick," of course!Edgy DC Dec 30 2008 07:42 AMFelix Mantilla, spreading the good chromosomes around.Mantilla earning court time at YaleDecember 30, 2008 NEWS-SUN STAFF REPORTMundelein High grad Raffi Mantilla has worked his way into the playing rotation for the Yale University men's basketball team.The sophomore guard has played in all eight Bulldog games (2-6 record), and is averaging nearly 10 minutes of action each game.He's scored a total of 18 points in those eight contests.Mantilla is the grandson of former major-league baseball player Felix Mantilla, who played with the Milwaukee Braves, New York Mets and Boston Red Sox in a long pro career.MFS62 Jan 03 2009 02:29 PMIn keeping with the three name thread in the non-baseball forum, I'll always remember him as Felix Lamela Mantilla. (I dunno why, but his middle name always stuck in my mind)LaterEdgy DC Jan 03 2009 02:31 PMYup, and time to retire Brogna 2008.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 3, 2008 Posted November 3, 2008 The High-A Inland Empire 66ers of San Bernardino (real name!) have announced their coaching staff, including John Valentin as batting coach and Charlie Hough as pitching coach.I confused Hough with Verne Ruhle and thought he was dead.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 Candidates being looked at for the Seattle managerial job include Jose Oquendo, the prototype for Rey Ordoñez; Joey Cora, who managed for the Mets in the minors, and Randy Ready, who has one of the porniest names in baseball history.
Guest sharpie Guests Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 Soon we can enjoy the literary stylings of Mike Piazza:Mike Piazza, a 12-time All Star for the Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Mets, has signed a deal to write his autobiography for Simon & Schuster. V-p and senior editor Bob Bender acquired world rights from David Black, CEO of Black Inc., and Dan Lozano, Piazza�s sports agent. Publication is slated for 2010. In the book, Piazza, who retired just before the 2008 season, will discuss controversies of his career, including the 2000 World Series incident when Roger Clemens threw a shattered bat at him, and the press conference he held to deny rumors that he was gay. The autobiography will also cover Piazza�s tumultuous relationships with the Dodgers, their front office and Tommy Lasorda; as well as his former teammates Bobby Valentine, Pedro Martinez, Rickey Henderson and others.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 He actually retired well into the 2008 season when he hadn't gotten interest from anybody. And Bobby Valentine wasn't his teammate.Who writes press releases these days?
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 Who cares. I'm going to read the hell out of that book.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 If'n I were you, I contact that agent NOW!!!! and show him your writin' credentials.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 Good thought.Writing the hell out of the book would be even better than reading the hell out of it.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 Knowing the publishing industry as I do, I can tell you that acquiring editor had absolutely no interest in the writin' credentials in the manuscript and cared primarily about the name on page 1.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 So Piazza now shops around for a ghost, I suppose?I figure he'll go with a sportswriter he had a good relationship with during his playing days.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 Or a David Frum/Michael Gershon otherwise underemployed wordsmith of the right. Mike goes that way.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 ="Benjamin Grimm":r3mb7fqz]So Piazza now shops around for a ghost, I suppose?I figure he'll go with a sportswriter he had a good relationship with during his playing days.[/quote:r3mb7fqz]I doubt Piazza does the shopping unless there's a writer he was really close to and insists on using him. Otherwise, I expect the literary agent would work with the publisher to find someone.Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 12:28 PMWhich is fucking why you should be acting NOW!!!!G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:30 PMI'm Richie Hebner for another eight posts or so. I'm not going out of my way to pick up any ground balls for a little while.sharpie Nov 11 2008 12:32 PMDavid Black, the agent, reps many bigtime sportswriters (including Mitch Albom of "Tuesdays With Morrie" fame). Piazza would have already come attached with a writer by the time the deal was made.Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 12:32 PMI don't want to stir up an ugly intramural competition, but GFafif should also throw his hat in the ring.G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:40 PM="Benjamin Grimm":3prysgfg]I don't want to stir up an ugly intramural competition, but GFafif should also throw his hat in the ring.[/quote:3prysgfg]Thanks, but first I have to finish my "as told to myself" thing.After I stop being Richie Hebner.Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 10:23 AMFormer Pitchers Leading Today's Brogna News:Hideo Nomo, teaching the forkball to young buffalos.Frank Viola, getting into the analyst game.Tom Seaver, advising the youth of today and liquoring up Tommy Davis.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 12 2008 10:41 AMRead also where Leiter was joining the staff at MLB-TV. I guess that means he's leaving the NO! network.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 08:14 AMSo, if you're like me, you grew sick of stories of Lenny Dykstra, swinging finance trader, about two paragraphs into the first one, but now the angle isn't that he's just another player, but that he's actually flourishing during these hard times. The claim is that he's 82-0 in stock picks endorsed in his newsletter.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 01:36 PMRick Sweet returning as manager of the Louisville Bats.Local favorite Roger Mason joins the Traverse City Beach Bums as pitching coach.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 13 2008 01:38 PMRon Gardenhire gets an extension.Leiter btw, will still work for Al-Yankazeera. Reynolds tho is out at SNY, raising speculation that Bobby Ojeda is on his way in.I think I speak for everyone ever by saying it would be nice to mix a 73er or 99-00er in there.TransMonk Nov 13 2008 01:42 PM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1jn4n2h7]I think I speak for everyone ever by saying it would be nice to mix a 73er or 99-00er in there.[/quote:1jn4n2h7]Didn't Zeile get a shot once?Benjamin Grimm Nov 13 2008 01:44 PMI was thinking a 69er: Ron Swoboda.Edgy DC Nov 13 2008 05:02 PMSam Perlozzo joins the Phils. Bang.metsguyinmichigan Nov 13 2008 11:01 PM="Edgy DC":828l4i24]Rick Sweet returning as manager of the Louisville Bats.Local favorite Roger Mason joins the Traverse City Beach Bums as pitching coach.[/quote:828l4i24]Traverse City is a beautiful resort area about two hours north of me. The team is fairly new, and plays in an independent league.We used to play in an all-newspaper softball tournament in Traverse, and it was fun until the Detroit News took it over and started stacking its team with ringers who didn't work for the paper. Cads!I'll have to head up this summer and see a game and talk to Mason!Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 10:19 AMHoly Foli, Batman, it's Sammy Drake! In a Mets hat!An old friendship, forged 50 years ago, is rekindledAUGUSTA -- It was the New York Mets cap on his head. This being Red Sox country, people had to stop the athletic, older man this week and ask."What's up with the hat?"That's when C. Wayne Mitchell glanced at his guest and stepped in. "This is Sammy Drake. Don't you know who he is?"No one did, to the amusement of both men."He's an original member of the Mets," Mitchell would tell them. "He's my friend."It's a friendship forged nearly 50 years ago, interrupted by decades of separation and searching by Mitchell and resumed about four years ago. Mitchell's family, aware of his wish to reconnect, trolled the Internet, finding Drake at a Mets reunion in New Jersey.Sunday, Drake came to Mitchell's home in Sidney for a four-day visit. They laughed and joked and marveled again at the strength of a relationship neither fully understood when it began on a hot U.S. Army base in the deep south at a time when full integration was still a dream.Drake was a draftee from Little Rock, Ark. trying to keep alive his dream of playing major league baseball while he was serving his country. Mitchell was the 7-year-old son of a career soldier returned from duty in Germany and new to the Georgia base. That summer, the young boy discovered the Fort Gordon Rams and a young, talented infielder who asked Mitchell if he wanted to be the bat boy."I could see he was interested in baseball," said Drake during lunch at a local restaurant Wednesday. Drake remembered when he fell in love with the game. The two played catch. Sometimes, Mitchell would go the base recreation center where Drake worked.They were so different in age and in race. Then, Mitchell was too young to understand what it meant to be a young black adult in Georgia. Drake, of course, did.A year or two after meeting, Mitchell's father was transferred to Taiwan. Mitchell got a baseball glove, a bat, a handshake, and much later, when he could fully understand, an outlook on life."Of all the hello's and good-bye's, his was the one I remember most," said Mitchell, while Drake nodded. "I knew a thank-you would be in order."Mitchell's story to this point became a column I wrote four years ago. Then, I couldn't reach Drake who had returned to his home in Los Angeles. Wednesday, at lunch, I introduced myself. Meeting Mitchell wasn't a coincidence, Drake said. There was a reason that maybe still isn't clear 50 years later.Drake was surprised, but not stunned when Mitchell walked up to his table at the hotel where the Mets reunion and autograph session took place. He's met a lot of people in his 74 years and has usually found the goodness in them, even under trying circumstances."At first I thought he as a typical fan," Drake said. "When he started talking about Fort Gordon I knew right away."Drake can't say he thought about Mitchell much over the years. Neither did he forget the young bat boy who would go to the gym to fold towels and stay out of the way of the soldiers.�"He would get picked on by the ballplayers a little bit. It was all in fun, but I could see it bothered him. I'd say, come with me. Let's play catch."Drake signed with the Chicago Cubs for $1,500 and was later assigned to Macon, Ga. to play for Pepper Martin in the so-called Sally League. He was the first African-American to play in the league he says. The most hurtful part of that season?"Not being able to sleep in the same hotels with my teammates. Not being able to eat with them. I could get carry-out or go across the river to a (black-owned restaurant.)"In the next breath, Drake tells of Martin's effort to get him seated with the team at a restaurant in Indiana. Martin, nicknamed the Wild Horse of the Osage, was a third baseman for the St. Louis Cardinals' "Gashouse Gang" in the 1930s and colorblind.Drake remembers one of his first trips to spring training with the Cubs after his two years in the Army. He was one of three black ballplayers in a group of 50 minor leaguers were assigned to a barracks-style building. "Every night I would pray. They must have thought I was from another planet."But I had a good spring training. When camp broke, everyone was on their knees praying but two."Monday, Mitchell and Drake had breakfast with Roger Katz, the mayor of Augusta and a baseball fan. Katz invited Drake to speak to the city council that night. He told the story of a Cubs tryout he attended in Winnipeg, Manitoba and the sore arm he had. He couldn't throw across the infield. Discouraged, he called the grandmother who raised him. Don't worry, he was told. She would pray for him."We had a big snowstorm," said Drake smiling. "We couldn't use the field for two weeks. I soaked my arm in the bath tub every day. I was ready."The Mets drafted him off the Cubs roster. His two-year, major league career was the proverbial cup of coffee. In 53 games he hit .153. His older brother, Solly, played parts of three seasons with the Cubs, Phillies and Dodgers. Together, they were the first African-American brothers to play major league baseball.Early Thursday morning, Drake said good-bye to Mitchell and his wife, Bonnie, and began his trip back to Los Angeles. A graduate of Philander Smith College in Little Rock, he's a retired investigator for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. He teaches Sunday School at the Greater Ebenezer Missionary Baptist Church, where his brother, the Rev. Dr. Solomon Drake, is pastor to a 6,000-member congregation.They've listened to the story of how a young white boy and a young black adult became lasting friends. It shouldn't be forgotten. Edgy DC Nov 19 2008 10:38 AMJack Aker, out of work and vulnerable like the rest of us.This old ballplayer understands life better than most by Rabbi Ben Kamin, Spiritual Life Examiner Jack Aker, a name known to aficionados of the national pastime, is something of a legend. But if his baseball card could talk, you�d hear a lot more than breezy play-by-play. Here�s a guy who made more appearances (495) as a relief pitcher than anybody in his time, but found himself taken out of the game quite before he expected. Like anybody suddenly not doing the thing we�ve been doing forever, Jack found himself looking down the abyss�he was tearful, anxious, and despondent.Baseball players are real people, in spite of the hype we impose on them, and their souls hurt, their spirits droop, just like all hard-working Americans.Jack won the Sporting News �Fireman of the Year� award in 1966 and played for the Kansas City and then Oakland Athletics, the Seattle Pilots, New York Yankees, Chicago Cubs, Atlanta Braves, and New York Mets. When I met him some years ago, he was pitching coach of the Cleveland Indians; I caught my breath short, extending and receiving hands of friendship with a living and breathing major leaguer who was on a first-name basis with such stars as Phil Niekro and Tom Seaver.I saw him at his tallest. Arriving on the green natural field before game time, Jack came for me, in full regalia�snappy cap and shimmering team jacket. He walked across fresh, chalky baselines with a certain, lanky royalty. There were the first faint smells of popcorn and beer from the bowels from the bowels of the old stadium as the coach escorted me into the clubhouse.Jack took me into a comfortably large room filled with open booths that served as repositories for the players. �Here,� he declared, �we meet and discuss the game plan.� Like a knothole sentry, he walked past the colognes and hair dryers of the bath area towards a large bin containing thick, polished baseball bats. He said, somberly: �Nobody can touch a man�s bat. You see, Ben, they are numbered according to his uniform number. The bat is a very personal matter to a guy. Nobody can touch it.�I understood what a sacrilege was and I shook my head in awe of power and success.A little over a year later, following a season of fallen expectations and profits, Jack (and the team manager) were both summarily dismissed from their positions. Now, this same Jack, record-holder, my invincible hero, sat in the front of my automobile, shoulders slumped, his head in his hands. We were taking a ride in the country as the venerable coach tried to sort things out.His prestige, his income, and his self-image were suddenly as powdery as the faded chalk lines of that emerald ball field he had once ruled. Jack was gone, the manager was gone, as well as a number of the muscular, sleek, swaggering players I had met that shining afternoon�in a different season.A person is so much more than his baseball card, her resume, his cellular list of �contacts.� Jack is doing okay, taking in his children and grandchildren, knowing well what it means to be laid off, discarded, discontinued. Maybe this old ballplayer understands America right now better than most.MFS62 Nov 19 2008 11:00 AMThank you, Edgy.Anyone who ever lost a job knows that you didn't have to bold that portion. We would have noticed it and commiserated(sp?) with Jack. But the way it was said was an unexpected pleasure in a piece like that, wasn't it?LaterEdgy DC Nov 19 2008 11:03 AMI was just imitating the original publishing, which set it as a pullquote.Farmer Ted Nov 19 2008 12:07 PMTim Foli will return to manage Washington's Class AAA affiliate in 2009.Met Hunter Nov 19 2008 10:37 PMJohn Stearns will be back managing the Nats AA team in Harrisburg as well.Benjamin Grimm Nov 20 2008 06:14 AMTim Bogar was among three who interviewed for a spot on the Phillies coaching staff.The problem is, they thought they were interviewing Doug Flynn.Edgy DC Nov 21 2008 10:06 AMJohn Nunnaly, batting coach with the Columbus Clippers.Edgy DC Nov 23 2008 08:56 PMJeff Innis, Cape Cod League Hall-of-Famer.Edgy DC Nov 28 2008 11:45 AMTim Bogar formally accepts the Red Sox offer to coach first.John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 28 2008 12:37 PMThe last 5 or 6 messages belong in that other thread.Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 10:34 AMI consider coaching jobs part of retirement. Rico's was a coaching job.I hear you, though.Nonetheless, I'm sticking with it for one more thread, as Joe McEwing takes over the Winston-Salem Former Warthogs.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 10:43 AMJust for that it's my duty to report that Jason Hardtke has been named hitting coach of the Missoula Osprey (Dbaggs -Pioneer League). The Baggs also named Brett Butler manager of the Reno Aces (PCL).G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 01:04 PMI once received a letter letting me know Brett Butler would come and speak to my employees and motivate them with his life experiences and faith in Christ for only $20,000. How much is each Ace going to have to ante up for the privilege?Edgy DC Dec 16 2008 09:38 AMWest Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 09:56 AMYou must have overlooked Jerry Cram in your Google subscription:="Our Sports Central":3gap6pnt]SAN JOSE, CALIF December 15, 2008- The San Jose Giants announced their 2009 coaching staff today with Andy Skeels joining the club as manager, Jerry Cram as pitching coach and Gary Davenport returning as hitting coach. Yukiya Oba also returns as the team's athletic trainer....Jerry Cram is familiar with San Jose after spending three years as the Giants pitching coach from 2001-2003. The former major leaguer is now entering his ninth season in the San Francisco organization after working the last five years (2004-2008) as pitching coach of the Salem- Keizer Volcanoes (Short-Season). During his time in the Giants farm system, Cram's teams have won three league championships: San Jose in 2001 and Salem-Keizer in 2006 and 2007.Cram spent parts of four seasons in the major leagues with the Kansas City Royals (1969, 1976) and New York Mets (1974-1975), compiling a 0-3 record and 2.98 ERA over 23 career appearances. Cram has devoted 28 years to the Kansas City organization, the last 14 as a pitching instructor, in a tenure that ended in 1997. Cram then spent three seasons as a pitching coach in the Colorado Rockies minor league system before joining the San Francisco organization prior to the 2001 campaign....The San Jose Giants open their 2009 season on Thursday, April 9th at Municipal Stadium vs. the Stockton Ports. The Opening Night Extravaganza will include a post-game fireworks display, 2009 magnet schedule giveaway, the return of Gigante and much more. [/quote:3gap6pnt]metsguyinmichigan Dec 16 2008 12:29 PM="Edgy DC":3l94882y]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:3l94882y]The Whitecaps have a thing on Sunday afternoons where you can either go on the field to play catch, or go near the dugout where all the players stand in a line and sign autographs. (kids get a free soda and hot dog, too. We got to a lot of Sunday games.)So last year I brought my treasured Mets book, sought out DePastino to sign it and tried to talk to him about his short Mets tenure. Even though there was no one else around and nothing going on, he had absolutely nothing to say. Was disappointed. Maybe I'll have better luck with Benny.G-Fafif Dec 16 2008 12:37 PM="Edgy DC":1sfgljfz]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:1sfgljfz]What's Distefano's Met pedigree (other than breaking up David Cone's no-hitter?)At least this will give Distefano and DePastino a chance to exchange each other's misdirected mail.Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 12:49 PMHe was a replacement player with the Mets in spring training 1995.G-Fafif Dec 16 2008 12:59 PMNow that you say it, it sounds remotely familiar though I have to confess I might have missed it on a multiple choice. Any other ex-big leaguers in that camp?metsguyinmichigan Dec 16 2008 02:07 PMStan Jefferson, I think. I saw a couple of those spring games.HahnSolo Dec 16 2008 02:25 PM="G-Fafif":1lmhw7l1]="Edgy DC":1lmhw7l1]West Michigan Whitecaps going with Met pedigree this year, adding Benny Distefano to Joe DePastino's staff.[/quote:1lmhw7l1]What's Distefano's Met pedigree (other than breaking up David Cone's no-hitter?)At least this will give Distefano and DePastino a chance to exchange each other's misdirected mail.[/quote:1lmhw7l1]Italian restaurants in West Michigan are scurrying to bid for the postgame spread.HahnSolo Dec 16 2008 02:26 PM="metsguyinmichigan":2a90z7f9]Stan Jefferson, I think. I saw a couple of those spring games.[/quote:2a90z7f9]Two guys I went to high school with, Cliff Gonzalez (8th round pick of the Mets in '85) and Chris Walpole, were in that camp. Gonzalez and Jefferson knew each other having both been from Co-op City.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2008 09:11 AM] DYKSTRA DROPS THE BALLBy KEITH J. KELLYDecember 17, 2008 --FORMER New York Mets out fielder Lenny Dykstra appears to be striking out with his magazine, Players Club.Dykstra, who helped the 1986 Mets capture the World Series before landing with the Philadelphia Phillies, is leaving behind a string of unpaid bills and a constant parade of shifting editors and office addresses.In the latest upheaval, Chris Frankie, the acting editor, resigned Dec. 4 along with two other staffers. Now Loren Feldman, former editor-in-chief of Philadelphia magazine, is said to be ready to join as the new chief editor."Loren Feldman is the new editor," said Dykstra.Meanwhile, Frankie says he's owed back pay.But Dykstra sees things differently: "That's not true. Frankie owes me money. Whatever he's talking about is delusional."Counters Frankie, "That's beyond ridiculous. How could an employee owe an employer money?"Beyond three months' back pay, Frankie said he's also owed for business expenses.Frankie, who had originally helped Dykstra write the TheStreet.com's "Nails on the Numbers" column, got the editor job in August after Dykstra's talks with Neil Amdur, a former sports editor at The New York Times, collapsed at the last minute after a fight over Amdur's ability to hire deputies."I did fly out there for a meeting with Dykstra about the editor's job," Amdur confirmed. "I spent a couple of days with him. He did offer me the job."The last issue of Players Club was published in October, and the November issue will now be combined into a year-end double issue that has yet to appear.His aim with the magazine was to help professional athletes make sensible investments with the money they earn from sports to ensure they don't go broke when their pro careers end.But present and former staffers say that Dykstra, who during his days with Major League Baseball had the nickname "Nails," is tough as nails when it comes to paying his staff or vendors.Frequently, sources said, he got staff to use their own credit cards to pay for ex penses related to the maga zine, and took months to re imburse the employees.Although the magazine is less than a year old, it has al ready had four different printers and three different editors. Several vendors have also stopped doing business with the magazine.The latest vendor to suspend business is Getty Images, which sources say is owed around $40,000.Dykstra claims that's not true. "I have a great relationship with them," he said of Getty.One source who's worked closely with Dykstra said he "has a haphazard way of paying - he just wires you money.""It's always that the money is just about to come in and everyone will be paid," this person said, adding that if someone demands payment, then Dykstra turns on them. "If you demand payment, then you are the enemy."He always feels abandoned by people, but he doesn't seem to realize that he's the reason people abandon him."Frayed Knot Dec 17 2008 09:24 AMThis surprises me not.John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2008 09:26 AMGotta love the irony in this venture being all about athletes spending wisely.Edgy DC Dec 17 2008 09:26 AMAnother day, another house of cards.Edgy DC Dec 22 2008 03:04 PMAaron Ledesma, infield coach for the Scranton-Wilkes Barre Yankees.The Yankees get a AAA infield coach? What a ripoff!Frayed Knot Dec 22 2008 07:36 PMMike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.Edgy DC Dec 26 2008 08:28 AMDJ has no regrets. Of course he doesn't. He got to be a Met.D.J. Dozier had a Bo Jackson-like versatilityPosted to: 50 Greatest SportsBy Ed MillerThe Virginian-PilotAs William, Bill, or even Billy, it just would not have worked as well. William Henry "D.J." Dozier would have been no less the athlete without that alliterative name, smooth as one of his touchdown runs or fielding gems at shortstop. That name - "D.J. Dozier" - was the shiny bow on top of the package of prep stardom.And Dozier was the complete package: a three-sport standout at Kempsville High, wooed by virtually every major football program in the country, coveted by virtually every pro baseball scout.Virginia Tech coach Bill Dooley came to the Norfolk Sports Club in December 1982 and made a public pitch for Dozier, something that would not be allowed under recruiting rules today, when coaches can't woo prospects through the media. Major league teams waved dollar signs in front of him, trying to convince him to skip football and play baseball.Dozier, No. 12 on the list of greatest athletes from South Hampton Roads, chose football - and Penn State. Later, after several years in the NFL, he reversed course and picked up a bat and glove. Good enough to briefly make it to the majors, he was, in an era of two-sport dabblers, a local, lower-wattage version of guys such as Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders."Obviously, when you look at the statistics, the numbers are certainly not what I hoped they would have been," said Dozier, now 43 and back in Virginia Beach working as a business consultant. "But the fact that I had the opportunity to go that far with what I would call God-given ability is a tremendous blessing."A dynamo at Penn State, Dozier forever will be a made man among Nittany Lion greats after leading the team in rushing four straight years, earning All-America honors twice and scoring the winning touchdown in a national championship victory over Miami.Things never clicked for him in the NFL, though. A first-round pick, Dozier missed time with injuries and didn't like the way the Vikings were using him - which was not too often. After three years, he signed with the Mets and began the climb through the minors in 1990. Meanwhile, contract talks with the Vikings stalled. Dozier finally re-signed with them halfway through the 1990 season.Dozier finished out that season and played six games with Detroit in 1991. With his baseball career seemingly blossoming, he left football behind.He would play just 25 games for the Mets, though, in 1992. In 1994, at 28, he moved on with his life, retiring from baseball.Dozier has coached, traveled the world doing missionary work, worked as a financial planner and investment banker. He moved back to Virginia recently from Allentown, Pa.He brought with him no regrets.Dozier said he remembered a former Kempsville teammate who played at Lock Haven University. Dozier knew he was good enough to play at Penn State and told his coaches. They offered him a chance to come to Happy Valley. In the end, though, the friend chose the security of staying at Lock Haven, later second-guessing his decision not to take his shot."I never forgot what he told me about the regret part of it," Dozier said. "That's what it was for me with baseball. I look at it as something that was a bit nuts, but I really felt that I could do it."The biggest thing about it is I didn't want to look back and regret not trying."He'll never have to.Ed Miller, (757) 446-2372 ed.miller@pilotonline.commetsguyinmichigan Dec 26 2008 11:17 AMThat's a nice story! Plus, I'd forgotten how nasty those old Tides caps were.G-Fafif Dec 26 2008 01:32 PM="Frayed Knot":34ueq9bz]Mike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.[/quote:34ueq9bz]How do you suppose he'll greet his new players...or monstrously huge batboy?themetfairy Dec 26 2008 02:12 PM="G-Fafif":1emwxaju]="Frayed Knot":1emwxaju]Mike Bordick, head baseball coach at Boys' Latin School in Baltimore.[/quote:1emwxaju]How do you suppose he'll greet his new players...or monstrously huge batboy?[/quote:1emwxaju]No - just with a simple, "Welcome Abordick," of course!Edgy DC Dec 30 2008 07:42 AMFelix Mantilla, spreading the good chromosomes around.Mantilla earning court time at YaleDecember 30, 2008 NEWS-SUN STAFF REPORTMundelein High grad Raffi Mantilla has worked his way into the playing rotation for the Yale University men's basketball team.The sophomore guard has played in all eight Bulldog games (2-6 record), and is averaging nearly 10 minutes of action each game.He's scored a total of 18 points in those eight contests.Mantilla is the grandson of former major-league baseball player Felix Mantilla, who played with the Milwaukee Braves, New York Mets and Boston Red Sox in a long pro career.MFS62 Jan 03 2009 02:29 PMIn keeping with the three name thread in the non-baseball forum, I'll always remember him as Felix Lamela Mantilla. (I dunno why, but his middle name always stuck in my mind)LaterEdgy DC Jan 03 2009 02:31 PMYup, and time to retire Brogna 2008.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 Which is fucking why you should be acting NOW!!!!
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Guest sharpie Guests Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 David Black, the agent, reps many bigtime sportswriters (including Mitch Albom of "Tuesdays With Morrie" fame). Piazza would have already come attached with a writer by the time the deal was made.
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