Jim Tracy Gone Again - Manager/GM changes

[Centerfield]

The bigger news is that Jon Schuerlholz looks to be stepping down.

So says Ken Rosenthal:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7322496

[metirish]

That's big news, there will be teams beating down his door to hire him.

[Guest Edgy DC]

That makes sense of why they broke so decisively with Andruw Jones, rather than have a protracted negotiation unlikely to go anywhere. This way Wren doesn't have to start his wreign as the guy who lost Jones.

[TransMonk]

Frank Wren
DOB: 3/17/1958
Hometown: St. Petersburg, Fla.
College: St. Petersburg (Fla.) JC

Assistant Director, Scouting - Montreal Expos 1987-1990
Assistant General Manager - Florida Marlins 1993-1995
VP / Assistant General Manager - Florida Marlins 1996-1998
General Manager - Baltimore Orioles - 1999

From Wikipedia: When Pat Gillick resigned as GM of the Orioles at the close of the 1998 season, Wren was recruited as his replacement. But the 1999 Orioles were a major disappointment. The club finished six games under .500 despite one of the highest payrolls in the game and the signing of free agent slugger Albert Belle to the most lucrative contract in baseball at the time. During the season, Wren was criticized publicly by Baltimore owner Peter Angelos and his family, and when the season ended, Wren was fired after less than a full year on the job.

VP / Assistant General Manager - Atlanta Braves - 2000-2007

[Vic Sage]

Here's a nightmare: the MFYs fire Cashman and hire Schuerholz.

[TransMonk]

I suppose if Schuerholz were to leave Atlanta it would make it even easier for Glavine to return to the Braves if he wanted to. No more dancing around that alledged rift between the two.

[Valadius]

Holy crap! What's the deal here, with Schuerholz, Jocketty, and Terry Ryan all stepping down at once?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Sounds like normal turnover.

[Valadius]

Except they're all very-long-tenured executives. I just think that's a little odd. GMs who've been with clubs 5 or 6 years is one thing. But three GMs with a decade-plus for their teams all going at the same time I find a bit strange.

[Guest Iubitul]

Vic Sage wrote: Here's a nightmare: the MFYs fire Cashman and hire Schuerholz.

That was my first thought, too...

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Iubitul wrote: ="Vic Sage"]Here's a nightmare: the MFYs fire Cashman and hire Schuerholz. That was my first thought, too...

Supposedly he's staying with the Braves, but in some other job. But, we'll see...

[Guest sharpie]

He's staying on as team President.

[TransMonk]

Stoneman to act as a consultant for Angels after stepping down as GM:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3066198

[Guest sharpie]

Trey Hillman, currently manager of those crazy Ham Fighters of Nippon to be named manager of those crazy City Royals of Kansas.

[Benjamin Grimm]

That leaves two possible managing destinations for Joe Torre: St. Louis and Pittsburgh.

I can't imagine he'd go to Pittsburgh.

[Guest Edgy DC]

My prediction: Vice President and Super Designated Personnel Development Guy for Baltimore.

[TransMonk]

Trey Hillman's Fighters just knocked Bobby V's Marines out of the Japanese playoffs.

His team won the Japanese championship series in 2006 with Tsuyoshi "Mr. Sparkle" Shinjo on the roster. Hillman had announced in September that he was leaving Nippon at the end of the season in order to spend more time with his family. Hopefully he brings his family to KC.

[Valadius]

Tony La Russa is staying in St. Louis.

[Fman99]

sharpie wrote: Trey Hillman, currently manager of those crazy Ham Fighters of Nippon to be named manager of those crazy City Royals of Kansas.

You can't fight ham, you can only hope to contain it.

Seriously, could we get a MLB team to change its name to the Ham Fighters? I'd buy that merchandise.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Fman99 wrote: ="sharpie"]Trey Hillman, currently manager of those crazy Ham Fighters of Nippon to be named manager of those crazy City Royals of Kansas. You can't fight ham, you can only hope to contain it. Seriously, could we get a MLB team to change its name to the Ham Fighters? I'd buy that merchandise.

Actually, the name of the team is Fighters, and it's owned by Nippon Ham. (Japanese teams are named after the owners instead of cities. Think Anehiser-Busch Cardinals, the Tribune Cubs or Senile Egomaniac Yankees.)

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Metsguy - "...Anehiser-Busch Cardinals, the Tribune Cubs or Senile Egomaniac Yankees."

Thanks for the laugh. I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that or I may have choked.

[Valadius]

Torre's headed to the Dodgers.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Source?

[metirish]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Source?

Val from D.C. or Joey from Ozone Park.

LA Times reporting that the Dodgers are in negotiations with Torre, yet they have not fired Little......disgraceful treatment.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't remember what kind of manager Tony Pe�a was for the Royals, only that he had a great first season before crashing and burning.

Do you think he's up for the Pirate job? He sounds kind of oafish (though clearly a baseball lifer) in his conference call here after the Yankee interview.

First question: Bryan Hoch.

http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/10/24/pena-yanks-can-win-next-season/

Edited October 30, 2007 by Guest

[Valadius]

Here's the source:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AsK4IjrD90wg0Gwhcp_xXNURvLYF?slug=txdodgerstorre&prov=st&type=lgns

[Guest Edgy DC]

They cite the Journal-News, who also say Mattingly is jumping with Torre, as the root source.

Wow.

[Benjamin Grimm]

What is he, crazy? Isn't he concerned about his Yankee legacy? Why is he agreeing to manage the Toledo Mud Hens?

[Guest Edgy DC]

That really puts the lie behind Hank's bluff, doesn't it? Is he going to play that card with Pettitte, Posada, etc. --- implying that they have a lesser claim to a plaque insignia, and maybe won't be welcome back for Oldtimey Day or some shit.

(Agent)Hey, Hank, you don't know anything about anything and had only a passing interest in this business until recently. You've accomplished nothing in the field yet, so I'd invite you to worry about your own damn legacy as the guy who ruined the Yankees. Put your money on the table or get stuffed.(/Agent)

[Valadius]

What shocks me more than anything is that Mattingly would leave the Yankees. The only reason I can see for him joining the Dodgers is that his son is currently in their farm system.