Stay, Go, or Call it Quits: 2007-2008 Offseason

[Valadius]

Troy Percival signs 2-year deal with the Rays:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-rays-percival&prov=ap&type=lgns

Kenny Rogers re-signs with Detroit for a year:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-tigers-rogers&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Valadius]

Cesar Izturis signs with St. Louis:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=txcardinalsizturis&prov=st&type=lgns

[smg58]

Percival got signed for a very fair price, given how well he pitched in his comeback. Riske might get three years at a reasonable price for the Brewers. If Minaya didn't want either of them (granted Percival wanted to close, so he might not have really been an option), who DOES he want to help the pen? I know one rumor mentioned Dotel, who'd be fine if he's healthy, but if he signs for a more generous offer than Percival it's not going to look good.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I thought Percival got too much, and that he's the type of fool's gold I've long expected the Rays to chase.

[DocTee]

KazMat: 3 years, $15 Million+ with Houston as Biggio's replacement

[DocTee]

Randy Wolf to Pods-- one year, $4 Million.

wouldn't have minded him in Blue and Orange this summer

[Elster88]

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[nymr83]

DocTee wrote: Randy Wolf to Pods-- one year, $4 Million. wouldn't have minded him in Blue and Orange this summer

sounds pretty cheap and only 1 year? if omar wasn't so busy trading 22 year old prospects for 31 year old slap hitting catchers he could have gotten in on this

[Frayed Knot]

Pettitte to return to Skanks ... just in case y'all were holding your breath over this one.

[Valadius]

Rays trade Elijah Dukes to Nats for player to be named later. So that gives them two young outfielders with attitude problems.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

That's been Bowden's MO going back to Cincy. Attitude problem guys come at a discount.

[Frayed Knot]

Even if one thinks that Milledge has an attitude problem he's not in the same league as Dukes who is basically a criminal.

I guess Tampa figures sending Dukes & Delmon Young away fits with their winter make-over theme of taking the Devil out of the Devil Rays.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Whoah, wait a minute. Dukes has a heckuva rap sheet for a baseball player. He's been arrested six times, had a restraining order filed against him for allegedly threatening to kill his wife, and impregnated the teenaged foster child of a relative.

And lest that threat appear to be unsubstatiated, he busted into a school to make his threats, with witnesses, and his wife has publickly played a phone message:

"You dead, dawg. I ain't even bullshitting. Your kids, too."

Milledge high-fived some fans and appears to have had sexual contact with a teenager when he was a teenager. Dukes is sociopath.

On edit: beaten to the punch.

[metirish]

Valadius wrote: Rays trade Elijah Dukes to Nats for player to be named later. So that gives them two young outfielders with attitude problems.

Who's the other one?, oh wait never mind, their outfield is getting crowded.

[Valadius]

Well yeah, obviously Dukes is in a league of his own in terms of his problems. He's a criminal. Milledge is just a cocky kid.

[MFS62]

The third other starting outfielder may be Willy Mo Pena, who certainly has a 'tude. Remember his insistence on signing a major league deal on his first contract?
But I wouldn't call him a criminal.

Later

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Brandon Phillips, Dmitri Young, Alfonzo Soriano...

[Guest Edgy DC]

MFS62 wrote: The third other starting outfielder may be Willy Mo Pena, who certainly has a 'tude. Remember his insistence on signing a major league deal on his first contract? But I wouldn't call him a criminal. Later

That's not a 'tude. That's an agent. There's maybe 100 guys out there who signed major league contracts their first time out.

[nymr83]

Pelfrey among them i think. and hey if you can get that deal for yourself good for you, i have no idea why that would make you a bad attitude guy.

[metirish]

Nats outfield.

Austin Kearns
Ryan Langerhans
Nook Logan
Justin Maxwell
Lastings Milledge
Wily Mo Pena
Dukes.

[Valadius]

Yeah, I believe Pelfrey is included there.

[Frayed Knot]

The only thing unusual about the ML deal given to WM Pena was that the Yanx were dumb enough to give it to a kid who was the age of a HS sophmore. Plus, it's not like they were locked into him via a draft pick or anything and were thus even freer to walk away at any time.

It's very unusual for HS draft picks to get an ML deal - usually only the very top picks do (Beckett, both Upton brothers, Delmon Young) - and those guys are 18 y/o seniors, not a 16 y/o man/child

[Valadius]

Scuttlebutt is that Omar's meeting with the O's to discuss Bedard again.

[metirish]

Apparently Bedard's people have told the Orioles that he will not resign with them when his contract is up, Mets are talking to Garcia and Colon.

[seawolf17]

metirish wrote: Nats outfield. Austin Kearns Ryan Langerhans Nook Logan Justin Maxwell Lastings Milledge Wily Mo Pena Dukes.

Kearns! Why couldn't we have gotten Kearns instead of Church! Nuts.

[metirish]

Good Lord.

] "But I also asked the question of my staff: 'Where are we today compared to where we were when we broke camp last year?' And when I look at where we are today compared with where we broke camp last year, top of the order, we have more on-base percentage, which is what we want. We've got more speed at the top of the order. We've got more speed in the outfield. So we feel pretty good."

[Guest attgig]

Valadius wrote: Scuttlebutt is that Omar's meeting with the O's to discuss Bedard again.

according to espn rumors:



Carlos Gomez, Aaron Heilman and Phil Humber isn't enough for bedard.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Fuck off Orioles then.

These guys are closer than we think.

CLOSER THAN WE THINK!

[TransMonk]

Edgy DC wrote: These guys are closer than we think.

I agree. Party in the Oriole suite.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I actually mean Carlos Gomez, and Phil Humber (and Lastings Milledge) are closer than we think to being productive big league performers. (Heck, Milledge more or less is one already.)

But yeah, I fear the Orioles may be frighteningly close to pulling off the second fleecing of the Mets in a week.