2006 World Series: Detroit vs. St. Louis

[metirish]

It's official,this WS had the worst TV ratings ever...seems to me that every year is the worst ever...

[Willets Point]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: St. Louis was just named the most dangerous city in America. (Taking the title from Camden, NJ, which has held it for the past two years.) Coming in second place this year: Detroit, Michigan. So the city of St. Louis wins bragging rights over Detroit in two categories during the course of a single month.

I just logged in to post this interesting coincidence. Yancy has bragging rights over me. Maybe that explains the low ratings. Everyone in St. Louis & Detroit had their tv's stolen and are too scared to walk to a bar.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

I've been in St. Louis. I've been in Camden.

St. Louis is no Camden.

[Willets Point]

ScarletKnight41 wrote: I've been in St. Louis. I've been in Camden. St. Louis is no Camden.

Yes, it's more dangerous.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Scarlett,

I think the part of St. Louis that you saw was probably the nice part, where the tourists go. The rest of the city may be something else entirely.

A few years ago I had an assignment in the ghettos of Baltimore. I'm sure that there are a lot of people who can say that Baltimore is a nice town, based on the Aquarium, the Inner Harbor, and Camden Yards. But I've been to the parts of Baltimore that you see on The Wire, and if Baltimore had won the most dangerous contest, I wouldn't have been the least bit surprised.

It may very well be the same with St. Louis. Just because part of it is nice doesn't mean the rest isn't dangerous.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Only been to St. Louis once but in a limited sample the Panhandler-to-Pedestrian ratio was higher than anyplace I'd ever been but for downtown Tampa.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

And I've never seen more homeless people in any American city than I did in Seattle in 2003.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I visited Seattle much earlier --- 1993 or so. What I took note of was that their homeless populations was so non-black, mostly white and Native Americans.

[Willets Point]

Philadelphia & San Francisco have the largest homeless populations I've ever seen, although homeless does not equal dangerous.

[MFS62]

According to a friend who was there recently, there are a lot of homeless people on the streets of Salt Lake City too, drawn there by the charitable reputation of the Mormons.

Later

[metirish]

I think we can conclude that it's a major problem in this Country...

[soupcan]

Not many homeless in Westport, CT.

[metirish]

Portland apparently attracts a lot of young runaways and the like.

[Elster88]

metirish wrote: It's official,this WS had the worst TV ratings ever...seems to me that every year is the worst ever...

Every year there's more and more other stuff to do. And other stuff on TV.

[stevejrogers]

True, only the NFL and March Madness seems to keep it's mega audience of the pre-cable/dish explosion days

[stevejrogers]

But that still means baseball IS a dying sport nationally!

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Semi-kidding, I do think that, but no need to travel down that road

[Guest sharpie]

Not only a national problem, the most homeless people I've ever seen was in Vancouver, BC.


(on edit): When I clicked on my new player, Willie Montanez, it brought me to Bruce Boisclair.

[Willets Point]

sharpie wrote: (on edit): When I clicked on my new player, Willie Montanez, it brought me to Bruce Boisclair.

How do you think Willie Monta�ez feels about that?

[Frayed Knot]

]only the NFL and March Madness seems to keep it's mega audience of the pre-cable/dish explosion days

Even the mega-audiences of MNF were are fraction of what they were from the days fo the 1970s & '80s by the time it was finally dropped from network television.
No network show has anywhere near the pct of viewing world that they had back then.

[stevejrogers]

Frayed Knot wrote: ]only the NFL and March Madness seems to keep it's mega audience of the pre-cable/dish explosion days Even the mega-audiences of MNF were are fraction of what they were from the days fo the 1970s & '80s by the time it was finally dropped from network television. No network show has anywhere near the pct of viewing world that they had back then.

I was referring to the NFL in general. I mean Super Bowl Sunday is like an unofficial holiday for crying out loud.

And every week it's gotten to the point where each game is like a mini-Super Bowl the way the media generates hype these days.

Example, listen to the Jets and Giants radiocast, for a 1pm game the Jets start right around 10:30-11 for their pre-game. The Giants would as well if Mike Francesa didn't host a national NFL show until 12. Heck for the important games the station pushes the official start time of Jet pregame untill 8!

Also, after both the Jets and Pats won the first game, never mind of course that most prognosticators had the Jets in the Brady Quinn sweepstakes the local radio was treating their game two matchup as "Battle for First Place"

[Frayed Knot]

The Super Bowl is a different animal, but TV ratings for ANY event (sports or otherwise) don't come close to what they would have been years ago when there were fewer others options for viewers.

[Willets Point]

I'm still having trouble accepting that the Cardinals are the World Series Champions. I mean the White Sox, Red Sox, and even the freakin' Marlins, I comprehended immediately, but for some reason this just does not compute.

[Willets Point]

The Cardinals apologize.

[Elster88]

cooby wrote: I guess I'm just not following your thoughts there.

Don't bother trying. There isn't much there.

[Guest cooby]

I did figure it out though

[stevejrogers]

Elster88 wrote: ="cooby"]I guess I'm just not following your thoughts there. Don't bother trying. There isn't much there.

So you want the 50 cents for a case beer after the Huskies escape Hartford with a win?

The point was that the NFL is at a point where the media and fan reaction is so game to game more than any other sport.

The point was that the Jets before the season opened were picked to be one of the truely horrid teams of the league.

They win Game 1, so do the Pats and all of a sudden the same folks who thought the Jets would vie for a top 5 draft pick were hyping the fact that the Jets were now battling for first place in the Week 2 hype.

Any other sport you don't get that kind of hysteria. A team has a hot (or even cold) first month and there is only guarded optimism, if they were picked across the board to be a bad team. Usually it will be "yeah, they are doing fine now, but how will they hold up the rest of the regular season?"

In the NFL, a team wins it's first game and fans and the media hype machine start making plans for January!

[stevejrogers]

That points to the overall success and popularity of the NFL as opposed to baseball. Even if it's not your team, the media hype machine will drill hope the fact that the games are all must see events.

Do you get that in baseball? No, usually the local coverage shuts down once the Mets and Yanks make their respective final outs. With the NFL coverage, you still regular coverage even if the Jets and Giants long since cleaned out their lockers.

Big case in point towards that fact:


See that, last year, the White Sox end their long drought and win the championship. What does SI put on the cover? A preview of the upcoming tilt between the Colts and Patriots on Monday Night Football. Turned out to be a good game, and while not the AFC Championship preview that everyone thought, but still the football game got the cover. Oh there is a nice insert featuring the celebration, but the fact of the matter is football has been ingrained in the nation's conscience as a weekly event that is Must Pay Attention To while baseball is a nice little sport who no one cares about after their particular team's season ends.

Tommy Lasorda be damned!

[stevejrogers]

BTW, more to the point, notice that the NFL is the only pro sport, and the only sport save for March Madness that local media and fans follow even if their team's season essentially ended by Thanksgiving?

Straight through the Super Bowl, there is no need for some sort of gimmick featuring an ambassador saying "So your team lost, watch the playoffs anyway! Its your duty! JUDY!"

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, how many sports are there in which a season can end by Thanksgiving?

[stevejrogers]

Watch that sarcasm meter Edgy! You know I mean half way through a season or thereabouts.

In baseball, its June/July

In hockey and basketball its in February.