You're Fired and you're Hired.

[nymr83]

i thought Valentine had made it pretty clear he's happy in Japan?

[Guest Edgy DC]

All I care about is that he's happy in Japan when the Yankees come calling.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

]Bochy agrees in principle to become Giants' new manager By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer October 27, 2006 SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Diego Padres manager Bruce Bochy has agreed to become the new skipper of the San Francisco Giants, and was still working out details Thursday night after meeting with team officials most of the day. Bochy had agreed in principle to take the job left vacant when Felipe Alou's contract was not renewed, two baseball officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the deal was still pending. ADVERTISEMENT Barring any last-minute snags, Bochy would be introduced at a news conference Friday. Normally, Major League Baseball frowns upon such announcements during the World Series, but the Giants will be excused because Bochy is set to leave Monday for Japan with an all-star team. He was the only candidate to replace Alou who has previous major league managerial experience, something general manager Brian Sabean said he preferred. The Giants received permission from the Padres on Wednesday to talk to Bochy, who traveled to the Bay Area on Thursday to meet with Sabean and other team officials. The Giants had only a seven-day window in which to come to agreement with Bochy because he is employed by another team. Bochy, who has one year left on his contract, and Sabean already had an informal conversation about the job. Multiple calls to Bochy and Sabean went unreturned Thursday evening. The 51-year-old Bochy, who just finished his 12th season as the Padres' manager, has guided San Diego to back-to-back NL West titles and is the winningest manager in franchise history. He has spent the last 24 years in the organization, dating to his playing days. He was due to make $1.9 million in guaranteed money in 2007 from the Padres, and was expected to sign a long-term deal with the Giants. Giants first baseman Mark Sweeney, who played for Bochy in San Diego for 3 1/2 seasons, believes his former skipper would be a good fit in San Francisco. "I don't know what they're going to be doing, but I don't think it's just a walkthrough session," Sweeney said Thursday. "If they're looking for experience, I think Boch is that guy. The one thing it's going to do -- and it's good for our organization -- is if there are potential free agents looking for a manager to play for, Bochy's that guy. "It would definitely benefit us in getting some free agents who might go elsewhere. I just think that goes a long way in deciding a team. It adds to it that you get a guy who has that credibility and experience." San Francisco, which has 11 potential free agents including Barry Bonds, did not renew the 71-year-old Alou's contract after the Giants finished their second straight losing season and third in a row out of the playoffs. The Giants on Monday interviewed New York Mets third base coach Manny Acta. Giants bench coach Ron Wotus and Los Angeles Angels pitching coach Bud Black also interviewed. None has major league managerial experience. Bochy's Padres made the playoffs in consecutive seasons for the first time, but were eliminated in the first round for the second straight year by the St. Louis Cardinals. AP Sports Writer Bernie Wilson contributed to this story.

[MFS62]

="Yancy Street Gang"] The Giants on Monday interviewed New York Mets third base coach Manny Acta. Giants bench coach Ron Wotus and Los Angeles Angels pitching coach Bud Black also interviewed.

Bud Black :

]June 7, 1977: Drafted by the New York Mets in the 2nd round of the 1977 amateur draft (Secondary Phase), but did not sign.

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[Frayed Knot]

This all kind of begs the question as to why the Padres so passive in letting Bochy walk over to a division rival with a year still left on his current deal? 'Specially coming off two straight division crowns.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I was wondering that myself.

Do they have a successor to Bochy that they're eager to put into place, like with Howe and Macha in Oakland a few years ago?

[Guest OlerudOwned]

I hadn't realized that Bochy was in SD for so long. 12 years.

[Guest Edgy DC]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-06/1106rangersmug.jpgReports have Texas hiring Ron Washington.

[MFS62]

Gee, I remember when Washington was a highly regarded infield prospect for LA, and I wanted the Mets to get him.

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[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Judging from his picture, that must have been a long time ago. He looks older than Franco.

[MFS62]

Rockin' Doc wrote: Judging from his picture, that must have been a long time ago. He looks older than Franco.

1) It was.
2) He must be.

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[Valadius]

Ron Washington managed in the Mets system for two years.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Pods to name Bud Black manager.

[metirish]

For the life of me I can't rememeber where Bud Black was last...Oakland,Rockies?

[stevejrogers]

Angels, pitching coach

[metirish]

Thanks Steve, am I wrong in thinking that not many pitching coaches become managers?

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Not many, at least in this era. Larry Dierker was a pretty well regarded manager, and a pretty good pitcher too. That's the only one I can think off off the top.

[Gwreck]

Ray Miller (he was the Twins pitching coach in the 90s under Tom Kelly ?) was Baltimore manager a few years back -- before Johnny Oates, I think. He lasted only 1 year, IIRC.

[DocTee]

Orel Hershiser could be a second one...he was the pitching coach for Texas. no? (or was it LA?) and he is a hot commodity these days...

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

George Bamberger was a pitcher in his playing career, the only pitcher to ever manage the Mets.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Clyde King, Bob Lemon, Lachemann, Roger Craig are some others.

Tommy Lasorda, Hall of Fame.

But yeah, crossing over from one track to the other is tough.

[Frayed Knot]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: George Bamberger was a pitcher in his playing career, the only pitcher to ever manage the Mets.

Dallas Green sez: 'Remember Me?'

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Teach me to post at 6 am

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Manny Acta withdraws from consideration for the Oakland job because his deal with Washington is "almost done," sez Ken Rosenthal.

It's a real Acta treason I tellya.

[metirish]

Good for Manny,I'll miss his work at third base.....

[Guest Edgy DC]

Just 37 years old. Almost half Frank Robinson's age.

No memories of him in the UMDB. I guess that's good for a third-base coach.

[metirish]

Is this a reflection of the Mets great season?...I'm happy for Manny, great to see Mets coaches getting interviews for vacent jobs...

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Who fills the opening?

I wonder if it will be Lee Mazzilli. Were he and Willie friends in the Bronx?

[Guest patona314]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Who fills the opening? I wonder if it will be Lee Mazzilli. Were he and Willie friends in the Bronx?

At one point in my life, I loved Maz. Now, I view him as a traitor. He embraces the Yankees and talks like a Yankee.

Maz with the Yankees and Parcells with the Cowboys... Why don't you just shoot me now!

[Guest Edgy DC]

Credit where it's due department: I've seen Mazzilli called a traitor a lot of times on this old internet. Yours may be the first time I've seen it with the word "traitor" correctly spelled.