IGT 08/01, Mets at Fish (the real thread)

[Zvon]

I just saw the highlights-
and ESPN has to "FLASHBACK" to Looper giving up a walkoff to the Fish.

UGH.

Cripes--Wagner couldnt have thrown a fatter fastball.

[Centerfield]

For what it's worth, I'm almost ok with Wagner's blown save last night. Bloop single...give up a HR challenging a hitter...sometimes those are the breaks. He seems to have gotten over his control problems from earlier this year (knock on wood). And if that's the case, I can live with that.

Of course, he does this in October and I say beat his ass.

I really didn't like what I saw from Milledge last night when he walked away from Willie. Everything I see from this kid leads me to believe he's an asshole. I wish we had traded Milledge and held on to Nady.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I find that I like walkoff wins better than walkoff losses.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Centerfield wrote: For what it's worth, I'm almost ok with Wagner's blown save last night. Bloop single...give up a HR challenging a hitter...sometimes those are the breaks. He seems to have gotten over his control problems from earlier this year (knock on wood). And if that's the case, I can live with that. Of course, he does this in October and I say beat his ass.

I'd like to beat his ass NOW!!!!

Never a good time to blow a save but considering all the bad news of Sunday/Monday, and the fact that the rest of the team bucked up to overcome Milledge's halfassedness, and bested a pretty good pitcher, and got a heroic 8th inning by Heilman only a few days after he'd been warming up with an 8-run lead, and it being the first game in a road series, and with the MFYs winning, and the columnists saluting Cashman's genius in "shrewdly" adding $25 million in payroll, and the Red Sox losing, and the baby crying, Wagner and his fat first-pitch meatball can kiss my big yellow behind.

[Guest Iubitul]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Never a good time to blow a save but considering all the bad news of Sunday/Monday, and the fact that the rest of the team bucked up to overcome Milledge's halfassedness, and bested a pretty good pitcher, and got a heroic 8th inning by Heilman only a few days after he'd been warming up with an 8-run lead, and it being the first game in a road series, and with the MFYs winning, and the columnists saluting Cashman's genius in "shrewdly" adding $25 million in payroll, and the Red Sox losing, and the baby crying, Wagner and his fat first-pitch meatball can kiss my big yellow behind.

yup �. That basically sums up my feelings. I tried to convince myself that they were still up 13 1/2 games, but that didn't matter - it still SBHMC

[duan]

can someone give me a "blow by blow" account of last nights Milledgegate.

[Guest old original jb]

="Iubitul"] Johnny Dickshot wrote: Never a good time to blow a save but considering all the bad news of Sunday/Monday, and the fact that the rest of the team bucked up to overcome Milledge's halfassedness, and bested a pretty good pitcher, and got a heroic 8th inning by Heilman only a few days after he'd been warming up with an 8-run lead, and it being the first game in a road series, and with the MFYs winning, and the columnists saluting Cashman's genius in "shrewdly" adding $25 million in payroll, and the Red Sox losing, and the baby crying, Wagner and his fat first-pitch meatball can kiss my big yellow behind. Or in other words, muttered with evident disgust.... Wagner.

KC Aug 02 2006 10:58 AM

JD: >>>Wagner and his fat first-pitch meatball can kiss my big yellow behind<<< The Yellow Hammer has spoken! Ya know, they have a cream for yellow ass at CVS.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 02 2006 11:54 AM

duan wrote: can someone give me a "blow by blow" account of last nights Milledgegate. On a sinking liner to shallow right, Milledge approached the ball tentatively, then stopped, allowing it to bounce in front of him for a single when it was obvious it was very, very catchable. That runner (there were 2 outs) eventually scored. He later said the sun peeking from behind the stadium made the ball hard to see. Between innings, it appeared Randolph, seated, was talking to Milledge (standing) when Milledge kind of turned his back and looked away, distracted by something else, with WWSB sitting there with this "WTF?!?" look on his face. He eventually leaned over to his right so as recapture LM's attention, but it was futile. Keith Hernandezx said the tape was "inconclusive" and without sound it was. This appeared to escape the notice of the beatwriters this morning (or their takes escaped me), who had other Milledge calamities (the AAA umpiregate and a bloody hand) to write up, but it wasn't the kind of thing that looked good at all.

Edgy DC Aug 02 2006 12:18 PM

Never a good time to blow a save, but them's the breaks. Perfection doesn't come in this world.

old original jb Aug 02 2006 12:22 PM

="Johnny Dickshot"] ="duan"]can someone give me a "blow by blow" account of last nights Milledgegate. On a sinking liner to shallow right, Milledge approached the ball tentatively, then stopped, allowing it to bounce in front of him for a single when it was obvious it was very, very catchable. That runner (there were 2 outs) eventually scored. He later said the sun peeking from behind the stadium made the ball hard to see. Between innings, it appeared Randolph, seated, was talking to Milledge (standing) when Milledge kind of turned his back and looked away, distracted by something else, with WWSB sitting there with this "WTF?!?" look on his face. He eventually leaned over to his right so as recapture LM's attention, but it was futile. Keith Hernandezx said the tape was "inconclusive" and without sound it was. This appeared to escape the notice of the beatwriters this morning (or their takes escaped me), who had other Milledge calamities (the AAA umpiregate and a bloody hand) to write up, but it wasn't the kind of thing that looked good at all. I have access to the soundtrack. Here's what really happened: WR: Lastings--what happened on that fly? LM: Don't know--I think I felt a twinge and pulled up short. You know coach, a ball hit me on the shoulder blade in BP today. WR: BP? That's rich. Everyone on this team knows damn well you don't get here in time for batting practice.... Lastings, turn around, and let me see that scapula!

Edgy DC Aug 02 2006 12:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 02 2006 02:58 PM

This is all pretty ironic as coming in on sinking balls seems to be the type of play that's gotten Nady judged (unfairly, to my thinking) as a brutal outfielder. Big guys tend to have trouble with that play, but Nady, though he looks pretty big, is listed at 6'0" --- probably accurately, to judge from the shots of him next to his teammates that I posted in the memories thead. Milledge is listed at 6'1".

MFS62 Aug 02 2006 12:31 PM

]On a sinking liner to shallow right, Milledge approached the ball tentatively, then stopped, allowing it to bounce in front of him for a single when it was obvious it was very, very catchable. Alex Ochoa disease. Later

Elster88 Aug 02 2006 02:47 PM

Looper.

Frayed Knot Aug 02 2006 03:29 PM

I don't want to go making excuses for Milledge - but he clearly didn't see that ball coming at him. I missed the dugout "incident".

Zvon Aug 02 2006 05:47 PM

="old original jb"] I have access to the soundtrack. Here's what really happened: WR: Lastings--what happened on that fly? LM: Don't know--I think I felt a twinge and pulled up short. You know coach, a ball hit me on the shoulder blade in BP today. WR: BP? That's rich. Everyone on this team knows damn well you don't get here in time for batting practice.... Lastings, turn around, and let me see that scapula! LMAO! Good stuff. I dont get this kid. Sometimes he's all humble and tries to say the "right" thing (like about filling Nadys shoes his 1st time up) and sometimes he appears like a real self centered dork. I imagine this is gonna be an ongoing inner battle with him. Like Ive said b4--he better walk the walk.

Elster88 Aug 02 2006 06:21 PM

Zvon wrote: Sometimes he's all humble and tries to say the "right" thing (like about filling Nadys shoes his 1st time up) and sometimes he appears like a real self centered dork. Being the cynical guy that I am, this is why I think the humility and doing the right thing is all an act.

Zvon Aug 02 2006 06:29 PM

="Elster88"] ="Zvon"]Sometimes he's all humble and tries to say the "right" thing (like about filling Nadys shoes his 1st time up) and sometimes he appears like a real self centered dork. Being the cynical guy that I am, this is why I think the humility and doing the right thing is all an act. Im sure it is, but dont you think that all players have their "game face", and their cliche responses and their act? The real pros never show us their true selves, just their public selves. I think Lastings better get his act together- and if he wants to act big-better play big.

[Guest KC]

JD: >>>Wagner and his fat first-pitch meatball can kiss my big yellow behind<<<

The Yellow Hammer has spoken! Ya know, they have a cream for yellow
ass at CVS.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

duan wrote: can someone give me a "blow by blow" account of last nights Milledgegate.

On a sinking liner to shallow right, Milledge approached the ball tentatively, then stopped, allowing it to bounce in front of him for a single when it was obvious it was very, very catchable. That runner (there were 2 outs) eventually scored. He later said the sun peeking from behind the stadium made the ball hard to see.

Between innings, it appeared Randolph, seated, was talking to Milledge (standing) when Milledge kind of turned his back and looked away, distracted by something else, with WWSB sitting there with this "WTF?!?" look on his face. He eventually leaned over to his right so as recapture LM's attention, but it was futile.

Keith Hernandezx said the tape was "inconclusive" and without sound it was. This appeared to escape the notice of the beatwriters this morning (or their takes escaped me), who had other Milledge calamities (the AAA umpiregate and a bloody hand) to write up, but it wasn't the kind of thing that looked good at all.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Never a good time to blow a save, but them's the breaks.

Perfection doesn't come in this world.

[Guest old original jb]

="Johnny Dickshot"] ="duan"]can someone give me a "blow by blow" account of last nights Milledgegate. On a sinking liner to shallow right, Milledge approached the ball tentatively, then stopped, allowing it to bounce in front of him for a single when it was obvious it was very, very catchable. That runner (there were 2 outs) eventually scored. He later said the sun peeking from behind the stadium made the ball hard to see. Between innings, it appeared Randolph, seated, was talking to Milledge (standing) when Milledge kind of turned his back and looked away, distracted by something else, with WWSB sitting there with this "WTF?!?" look on his face. He eventually leaned over to his right so as recapture LM's attention, but it was futile. Keith Hernandezx said the tape was "inconclusive" and without sound it was. This appeared to escape the notice of the beatwriters this morning (or their takes escaped me), who had other Milledge calamities (the AAA umpiregate and a bloody hand) to write up, but it wasn't the kind of thing that looked good at all.

I have access to the soundtrack. Here's what really happened:

WR: Lastings--what happened on that fly?

LM: Don't know--I think I felt a twinge and pulled up short. You know coach, a ball hit me on the shoulder blade in BP today.

WR: BP? That's rich. Everyone on this team knows damn well you don't get here in time for batting practice.... Lastings, turn around, and let me see that scapula!

[Guest Edgy DC]

This is all pretty ironic as coming in on sinking balls seems to be the type of play that's gotten Nady judged (unfairly, to my thinking) as a brutal outfielder.

Big guys tend to have trouble with that play, but Nady, though he looks pretty big, is listed at 6'0" --- probably accurately, to judge from the shots of him next to his teammates that I posted in the memories thead. Milledge is listed at 6'1".

[MFS62]

]On a sinking liner to shallow right, Milledge approached the ball tentatively, then stopped, allowing it to bounce in front of him for a single when it was obvious it was very, very catchable.

Alex Ochoa disease.

Later

[Elster88]

Looper.

[Frayed Knot]

I don't want to go making excuses for Milledge - but he clearly didn't see that ball coming at him.


I missed the dugout "incident".

[Zvon]

="old original jb"] I have access to the soundtrack. Here's what really happened: WR: Lastings--what happened on that fly? LM: Don't know--I think I felt a twinge and pulled up short. You know coach, a ball hit me on the shoulder blade in BP today. WR: BP? That's rich. Everyone on this team knows damn well you don't get here in time for batting practice.... Lastings, turn around, and let me see that scapula!

LMAO!

Good stuff.

I dont get this kid.
Sometimes he's all humble and tries to say the "right" thing (like about filling Nadys shoes his 1st time up) and sometimes he appears like a real self centered dork.
I imagine this is gonna be an ongoing inner battle with him.
Like Ive said b4--he better walk the walk.

[Elster88]

Zvon wrote: Sometimes he's all humble and tries to say the "right" thing (like about filling Nadys shoes his 1st time up) and sometimes he appears like a real self centered dork.

Being the cynical guy that I am, this is why I think the humility and doing the right thing is all an act.

[Zvon]

="Elster88"] ="Zvon"]Sometimes he's all humble and tries to say the "right" thing (like about filling Nadys shoes his 1st time up) and sometimes he appears like a real self centered dork. Being the cynical guy that I am, this is why I think the humility and doing the right thing is all an act.

Im sure it is, but dont you think that all players have their "game face", and their cliche responses and their act?

The real pros never show us their true selves, just their public selves.

I think Lastings better get his act together- and if he wants to act big-better play big.