stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Author Posted July 31, 2006 So who are we trading for a #3 starter cause its now Milledge time
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Which makes our rightfielder... some combination of Endy Chavez, Lastings Milledge, and Victor Diaz, and our rotation about eight deep.What are we going to do with Perez?
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Perez has been a mess this year, and he just gave up 8 earned runs in a third of an inning in AAA yesterday. But I don't mind taking a shot at a soon to be 25-y.o. lefty who has at least shown he can pitch at this level.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Omar must be working on something, too many starters...
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 It's 3:27 p.m. now. Peterson can fix Perez by 3:37.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 I suspect they consider Perez more of a future project than a right-now fix.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 With a half hour to go, I think he's working on warehouseing Perez at AAA.It strikes me as something of a panic move, but, yeah, Perez might get his form back.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Sucks to be Nady going from the top to the absolute pitts.
Guest Rotblatt Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Given Sanchez going down, that's a pretty darn good deal. Perez has been godawful this year, but he's a 25-year old who throws in the mid-90's and has a nice slider. And he's a lefty. Meanwhile, Robo's a solid reliever, although his peripherals have been terrible this year (1.63 WHIP, 33-24 K-BB). I wonder if there's a minor leaguer involved we haven't heard about yet. If not, Littlefield just got pwned. Nady's a'ight and all, but it looks to me like his ceiling is capped at average.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 I dunno, look at this from Pittsburgh's pov:- they dealt a 41 y/o reliever w/little future for them plus a hopeful maybe for a starting OFer they can control for 4 years.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Edgy DC wrote:Which makes our rightfielder... some combination of Endy Chavez, Lastings Milledge, and Victor Diaz, and our rotation about eight deep.What are we going to do with Perez?I wonder if a platoon with Endy/Diaz is in order, and hold off on the Milledge promotion until September.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Not the way Diaz is going this year. It's Lastings time unless...
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Nady is a heckuva lot to give up for Hernandez, but at least they have some outfield depth.(Note to Schaefer voters: He's RHernandez!)
Guest Rotblatt Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Frayed Knot wrote:I dunno, look at this from Pittsburgh's pov:- they dealt a 41 y/o reliever w/little future for them plus a hopeful maybe for a starting OFer they can control for 4 years.That's a fair point. It all hinges on how valuable you think Perez is. Personally, I think he's pretty darn valuable, but I'm easily impressed by "upside."
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 This may also open the door for a Cliff Floyd return in 2007.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 I think this also increases the chances of Mr. Floyd being back next year.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Similar Pitchers through Age 23 Compare StatsSandy Koufax (976) *I'd have guessed he'd be in-line for a Cy Young Award by now.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Beat me by a second, Yancy. Either that or "great minds..."
Guest ScarletKnight41 Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 I take a nap and all hell breaks lose!It's good to have Bert back, now that Duaner Sanchez is gone for the season. But I'll miss X-Man - he had been a pleasant surprise this season.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 ]Personally, I think he's pretty darn valuable, but I'm easily impressed by "upside".Precisely, he's pretty darn **POTENTIALLY** valuable - and the Pyroots opted for the "sureness" of X.And I'm not saying I hate the move, only that each side had it's reasons for doing it.Question of the day: Was this move prompted solely by the Duaner crack-up or was something along these lines going to happen anyway?Omar had made no secret about upgrading the pen and Robo had been part of those rumors.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Rotblatt wrote:Mets to flip Perez for Linebrink?The rumor is, specifically: Perez and Heath Bell for Linebrink.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 ]If not, Littlefield just got pwned. I've never quite known what that word means, but I think he dealt wisely.As of now, Cameron = Hernandez + Perez + Whatever Nady Has Given Us Thus Far.Victor Diaz has slugged .350 for the Tides this year. It looks like a Milledge return, but other possible callups are Michael Tucker, and... Edgardo Alfonzo.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Two words: Pat Burrell.In related news:]Clippers clobber Perez, IndiansJuly 29, 2006Wil Nieves hit a two-run double and scored in a nine-run first inning that carried visiting Columbus past Indianapolis, 10-6, on Saturday. The 28-year-old catcher delivered a one-out double to center field, then scored with Terrence Long on errors by center fielder Chris Duffy and shortstop J.J. Furmaniak. Nieves hammered a solo homer in the second for Columbus (47-59). Long's RBI single sparked the scoring as the Clippers used seven consecutive hits to build a 9-0 lead. Danny Garcia and Kevin Thompson sandwiched RBI doubles around J.T. Stotts' run-scoring single. Andy Cannizaro's RBI single capped the inning, during which Columbus sent 13 men to the plate. Every member of the Clippers lineup collected at least one hit in the opener of a two-game set. Colter Bean (7-2) allowed a hit and a walk while registering a strikeout in 1 2/3 innings for the win. Jose Veras got the last two outs to notch his 16th save. Yurendell de Caster went 3-for-5 with a three-run homer, falling a double shy of the cycle for Indianapolis. Rajai Davis also was 3-for-5 with an RBI to extend his hitting streak to 11 games. Chris Richard and Adam Boeve picked up an RBI apiece for the Indians (58-47). Major League veteran Oliver Perez (1-3) recorded just one out and was torched for eight runs on five hits. He walked three of the game's first four batters.]Columbus Top 1stKevin Thompson walks. With Andy Cannizaro batting, wild pitch by Oliver Perez, Kevin Thompson to 2nd. Andy Cannizaro walks. Coaching visit to mound. Carlos Pena pops out to shortstop J. Furmaniak. Mitch Jones walks. Kevin Thompson to 3rd. Andy Cannizaro to 2nd. Terrence Long singles on a soft fly ball to right fielder Adam Boeve. Kevin Thompson scores. Andy Cannizaro to 3rd. Mitch Jones to 2nd. Wil Nieves doubles (10) on a fly ball to center fielder Chris Duffy. Andy Cannizaro scores. Mitch Jones scores. Terrence Long scores. Wil Nieves scores. Missed catch error by center fielder Chris Duffy. Throwing error by shortstop J. Furmaniak. Bronson Sardinha singles on a line drive to left fielder Rajai Davis. Danny Garcia doubles (19) on a fly ball to left fielder Rajai Davis. Bronson Sardinha scores. JT Stotts singles on a ground ball to center fielder Chris Duffy. Danny Garcia scores. Pitcher Change: Josh Sharpless replaces Oliver Perez. YIKES.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 I'm thinking Milledge.How does Fonzie replace Nady? Are you' thinking that with Chavez and Woodward on the bench, the Mets have enough outfield depth that they can call up an extra infielder?
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Edgy DC wrote:Victor Diaz has slugged .350 for the Tides this year. It looks like a Milledge return, but other possible callups are Michael Tucker, and... Edgardo Alfonzo.If Victor's .350 isn't useful enough, I can't see what Edgardo's 8-for-41 (only 1 extra base hit) is going to do for us.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Yancy Street Gang wrote:I'm thinking Milledge.How does Fonzie replace Nady? Are you' thinking that with Chavez and Woodward on the bench, the Mets have enough outfield depth that they can call up an extra infielder?No, I don't think it works, I just think it might happen somehow when the roster settles.On Linebrink: there are so many burly righthanded relivers with brown goatees floating around around now, there ougut to be some sort of BRHRwBG administration office in Washington.Hear Scott sing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009INJ24/103-5436334-2305422?v=glance&n=5174
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Geez, you leave the office for an hour and look what happens. Couldn't we have gotten Bert for something less than Nady? I think Milledge has potential, but his OPS is slightly below .700 as a major leaguer. And Floyd gets hurt every day.
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