Pelfrey Countdown

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Sorry.

No decision tonight.

Pelfrey 7.0 7 3 2 2 10 0 3.78

That 10 is for K's

[Guest Edgy DC]

A lot like Pedro's line tonight.

[metirish]

OK, Peterson likes the minor league guys to pitch a lot of innings, what say will he have in Pelfrey?

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Don't misunderstand it. Pelfrey is a hulking college guy and Kazmir a slight high school guy.

[metirish]

Fair point Dickshot, there is a big difference in that, still most people I have read say Pelfrey should stay in the minors this season.....I say fuck that and bring him on.....of course I'm a bollox so what do I know.

[nymr83]

Before the year started i said we'd see Pelfrey make his major league debut July 4th before a sellout crowd at Shea Stadium, I'm still hoping thats right.
One of the great things about college guys (and the reason i prefer drafting them unless a high school guy is one of those "oh my god he's amazing" talents) is that they are usually pretty close to being ready.

[Guest Rotblatt]

Pelfrey DID pitch 359.7 innings in college in addition to his 38.7 innings in the minors.

I'm anxious to see him, and think he or Soler is our best internal option for the #4 spot if we don't move Heilman.

[smg58]

They certainly have more upside than the guys we have left in AAA, but that's a big jump to make, especially when we'd be asking them for critical innings. I think the fact that the Mets brought MacLane up to Norfolk instead of Soler or Pelfrey indicates that they don't consider rushing those two to be an option. Which is fine, as long as there are better alternatives...

[Frayed Knot]

I've said this before, but I think the biggest worry isn't necc that he couldn't handle the jump in levels but rather the increase in IPs that he'll be facing. Those 360 IPs were spread out over 3 years and then were followed by a 9 month lay-off from any pitching at all.
He's already facing a much longer season than anything he's seen up to this point and it's different doing it in the minors where the team's W/L can play a secondary role to his development.

I do suspect we'll see him before the year's out but that's different from promoting him after just a good outing or two.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Yah. Consider this a long countdown, like from 100, not 10.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Bring up Pelfrey NOW..He reminds me of that huge country boy pitcher who throws to Roy Hobbs in the Natural. Strike out the Whammer!!

[Frayed Knot]

Well faced with logic like that I have no choice but to agree, forget all that stuff I said earlier.

[Centerfield]

Is that 7 hits, 3 runs?

[soupcan]

cleonjones11 wrote: Bring up Pelfrey NOW..He reminds me of that huge country boy pitcher who throws to Roy Hobbs in the Natural. Strike out the Whammer!!

Yeah! Bring him up NOW! Fuck the future, blow his arm out TONIGHT! We're only 3 games in front and its already the second week of May!

What is wrong with Omar? What the hell is he waiting for??!!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Maybe he doesn't like Pelfrey because he's not Hispanic.

[soupcan]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Maybe he doesn't like Pelfrey because he's not Hispanic.

Hispanic? I thought Omar's criteria was that the last name had to end in a vowel.

'Y' is sort of a vowel isn't it?

[Benjamin Grimm]

That vowel comment was a little weird. Makes it sound like Omar has a preference for Italians.

Let's list some of the Hispanic Mets:

• Martinez
• Hernandez
• Beltran
• Valentin
• Sanchez

Who was it who made that vowel comment anyway? I've already forgotten.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Sarah Vowel's name ends in a vowel. Sign her.

[Guest cleonjones11]

soupcan wrote: ="cleonjones11"]Bring up Pelfrey NOW..He reminds me of that huge country boy pitcher who throws to Roy Hobbs in the Natural. Strike out the Whammer!! Yeah! Bring him up NOW! Fuck the future, blow his arm out TONIGHT! We're only 3 games in front and its already the second week of May! What is wrong with Omar? What the hell is he waiting for??!!

I respectfully disagree..Pelfrey is ready...NOW

[Frayed Knot]

Pelfrey's AA stats (3 starts):

16.2 IP; 8R (7ER); 23 H, 5 BB (1.68 WHiP); 3.78 ERA; 21 K

That's a small sample size but it doesn't even come close to suggesting dominance.

Add that to his brief Fla St Lg stint and he still has less than 40 innings pitched as a professional which follows a nearly 10-month layoff.


Let's calm down here a bit, OK?

[soupcan]

Absolutely.

Why the panic?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, there's no need to bring up Pelfrey NOW!

We can wait at least until tomorrow morning.

Truthfully, though, it's ridiculous to be declaring him "ready" just yet. The earliest we can expect to see him is July, and even that would surprise me.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Many people thought David Wright was ready NOW.. specifically Howard Johnson. That seems to have worked out....

[Benjamin Grimm]

You're not Howard Johnson.

[Guest cleonjones11]

and your not Daryl Strawberry

[metsmarathon]

i'm charlie neal.

[Frayed Knot]

="cleonjones11"]Many people thought David Wright was ready NOW.. specifically Howard Johnson. That seems to have worked out....

Howard Johnson thinking David Wright was ready is a lot different than YOU thinking Mike Pelfrey is ready; especially when you consider that Wright had 3 years in the minors and HoJo saw him daily - as opposed to Pelfrey's 40 innings! in the minors and you've not only never seen him but probably wouldn't recognize him if you two were the only ones stuck on an elevator.

[Guest Hillbilly]

I wonder if there is any thought of putting Heilman in the rotation and bringing up Henry Owen to fill Heilman's role in the pen? Involves a lot of shifting and hoping, but we sure could use the help in the Starting rotation. Owens is still putting up eye-poping numbers.

Edit: removed non-link

[smg58]

They appear to be reluctant to move Heilman, and I think you would have to commit to moving him into the rotation for an extended period of time for it to make any sense (i.e., starting him once and then sending him back to the pen when Bannister or Maine is ready would be too disruptive.) It could still happen eventually out of necessity, though.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Hillbilly wrote: I wonder if there is any thought of putting Heilman in the rotation and bringing up Henry Owen to fill Heilman's role in the pen? Involves a lot of shifting and hoping, but we sure could use the help in the Starting rotation. Owens is still putting up eye-poping numbers. Edit: removed non-link

Too stubborn by half. Heilman's a relief pitcher, haven't you heard? To move him into the rotation before 2010 would be to admit they had no clue what they were doing when they trded Benson, traded Seo, or otherwise weakened their rotation by putting Heilman in the pen.