A.P. Discuss SNY Thread

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I just Googled Keith Hernandez to see if there was any news of a suspension, and all I found is one person asking about it in a discussion group. When searching the web for Keith, his UMDB page was the third one listed! Wow! With such high Google page ranks, I wonder why I'm not making any money on the damn thing!

[Guest Iubitul]

If he is being punished for anything, it's gotta be the monkey comment.

That being said, I think the plan all along was to have Keith and Darling rotate in the booth with Keith getting most of the work. It would be a 40/120 split, or something along those lines, IIRC

[Guest Iubitul]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I just Googled Keith Hernandez to see if there was any news of a suspension, and all I found is one person asking about it in a discussion group. When searching the web for Keith, his UMDB page was the third one listed! Wow! With such high Google page ranks, I wonder why I'm not making any money on the damn thing!

Speaking of Google - upto two days ago, a search for "Mets Photography" would bring my site up first - now, it's completely gone from the search results...

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Did your site have any downtime recently? I've heard that you could lose your Google ranking if your site is unavailable when the Google spider comes calling.

[metsmarathon]

oh, i know. i'm refering to statements such as "[group] plays like this", etc., be they domincans, cubans, japanese, or canadians. kids in different countries grow up playing the game in different ways, developing unique variations on skills, and prefering some combinations of such skills over others, resulting in certain similarities in style of play across large groups relative to other large groups.

i have a problem when people think that such things are tantamount to racism, or are otherwise offended.

if mex has gotten in trouble for such statements, i wonder if it was because somebody actually complained, or if some "proactive" suit wanted to cut the lawyers and whiners off at the pass...

[Guest Iubitul]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Did your site have any downtime recently? I've heard that you could lose your Google ranking if your site is unavailable when the Google spider comes calling.

Not that I know of - it's on Kase's server, and I think everything has been good. I just checked with a search of my full name, and it's not listed in those results, either...

[Guest KC]

Google is interesting. I did a search for Mets Photography and the Crane
Pool Companion which gets a small fraction of the number of hits that the
board gets is listed at about the seventh link.

As an experiment, I'll put the member links back in the header here and see
if you creep back up in the standings.

Fascinates my inner geek that google thing.

[Elster88]

Ronnie again tonight. I feel like he's been good.

Ralph Kiner to join them later.

[Guest GYC]

From what I've heard from various Mets fans online, Keith Hernandez destroyed Piazza a few games ago and SNY overreacted and pulled him. He talked about how the Mets wouldn't have been as good this year because runners would be on 2nd. He then continued to say that runners would get a hit and next pitch would be standing safely on 2nd.

[Frayed Knot]

Seems to me that if Keith really has been pulled by SNY - temporarily or otherwise - then at least one of the media-centric newshounds in this town; Mushnick, Raissman, Best, Sandomir would have caught wind of it. Of course it's possible that the IFPSA has better sources on this stuff but I have my doubts.

The idea that Hernandez "destoyed" Piazza stemmed a comment on how LoDuca has been calling games "aggressively" and how that's a help to the pitchers "just like it was when Gary Carter was here". Some took the omission of Piazza as a backhanded slap worthy of the beginnings of a blood feud.

Now here's what I ask myself: Why - even if this was a subtle putdown of Piazza - would the suits at SNY get themselves all bent out of shape?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Because we're conspiracy theorists and we'll figure it out later. Um, maybe because the Mets have a lot more invested in Piazza than in Her... no, that's not it.

So, Gary Carter's game-calling is Keith's ideal now, huh?

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

="Frayed Knot"]Now here's what I ask myself: Why - even if this was a subtle putdown of Piazza - would the suits at SNY get themselves all bent out of shape?

Too much snipping after Piazza has long since left could cause those around Piazza to overblow things and cause a rift between the Mets and Piazza, effectivly severing ties between the two

[nymr83]

Piazza left on fairly good terms, if not for the arbitration rules theres a good chance he'd have been back too. The Mets don't want to ruin Piazza jersey-retirement day, Piazza in the HOF day, etc. in future years.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Iubitul wrote: If he is being punished for anything, it's gotta be the monkey comment.

That theory makes the most sense to me.

Also, Monday Morning Mets isn't coming up on Google either. However, both MMM and Mets Photography are front and center on Yahoo!'s search engine.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

CPFers need a court decision to be upheld on appeal before drawing any conspiracist anti-Mets conclusions. Until that day, assume that the Mets' organization isn't doing anything, toward or untoward. You simply cannot ever know these things, correct?

[Guest KC]

I wish I had more to go on than a half a call, and didn't mean to start anything.
My guess is that Keith has the week off and they'll juggle around this way for the
rest of the season.

[Frayed Knot]

1) Neither Keith nor Darling were scheduled to work every game this season.

2) The suspension for dissing Piazza theory assumes that the internet sleulths have discovered that the front office NYM guys put enough pressure on the SNY guys to suspend Hernandez for a supposed dis of Piazza (even though MP's name never came up) because the front office types are afraid that Mikey might not show up to some future ceremony 6 or 8 years down the road all w/o the snoops from any of the newspapers here knowing anything about it.

I ain't buying it.

[Guest KC]

Mex-gate is over, the bum is vacationing in Barbados and will be back Monday.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Gary just said Keith will be back tomorrow and has been in Barbados. Suspend me!

Edit: Rats. Foiled again.

[HahnSolo]

Nice gig. Work a week then take a week's vacation.

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: CPFers need a court decision to be upheld on appeal before drawing any conspiracist anti-Mets conclusions. Until that day, assume that the Mets' organization isn't doing anything, toward or untoward. You simply cannot ever know these things, correct?

Awww but this is the same franchise that decided to pick Steve Chilcott over Reggie Jackson because Reggie had a white girlfriend!

This is the same organization that didn't want to pay ARod anything because they wanted to drive down the sale price of the organization and pushed Boras' phamplet about how ARod wanted merchandiceing tents

SC=1962 the year Met Conspiracies started

[G-Fafif]

mlbaseballtalk wrote: This is the same franchise that decided to pick Steve Chilcott over Reggie Jackson because Reggie had a white girlfriend! This is the same organization that didn't want to pay ARod anything because they wanted to drive down the sale price of the organization and pushed Boras' phamplet about how ARod wanted merchandiceing tents

Same franchise. Different organization. Far different organization in 2006 from what it was in 1966. Tangibly different organization from what it was in 2000.

[Guest Edgy DC]

]This is the same franchise that decided to pick Steve Chilcott over Reggie Jackson because Reggie had a white girlfriend!

It's also (a) untrue (the lady was Mexican), and ( completely unsubstantiated. We've been through this, and he only real source this is Reggie Jackson himself, and even he acknowledges it's mere speculation.

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

Edgy DC wrote: ]This is the same franchise that decided to pick Steve Chilcott over Reggie Jackson because Reggie had a white girlfriend! It's also (a) untrue (the lady was Mexican), and ( completely unsubstantiated. We've been through this, and he only real source this is Reggie Jackson himself, and even he acknowledges it's mere speculation.

Apparantly you didn't see the SC notation at the end of my post!

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yup. Sorry. Reading your comment second hand.

[MFS62]

Since I've only had the service for a few days, I have a Gary Cohen question.
Should his name be placed in nomination for the Lindsay Nelson Award for announcers with the worst taste in sports jackets? Or was what I saw a one day thing?

Later

[Elster88]

Keith was on the FAN today. They called him to ask where he was. It sounded like he said Florida (so unless he misspoke he wasn't in the Barbados). He said he watched on DirecTV, so he didn't miss anything. He called Lo Duca "De Luca" the first time, started to say De Luca a second time but he corrected himself. Nothing interesting.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

If we're going to comment on wardrobe, I'd start with Keith's furry lapels on his sports jacket. Very metrosexual.

[Guest KC]

How many ads does Jeter have on SNY? I think we're up to four.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Chris Cotter brings nothing to the table.