MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 from prospectus: David Bell is opening the door for one of the best spring training stories around. With Bell�s back a lingering problem, the Phillies are going to break camp with 33-year-old rookie Chris Coste, who can play third and short. The author of two books, Coste is a Disney movie waiting to happen Anybody know about him? Later
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I know a little about him.He's 33 and can play third and short. He's also written two books.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Oh yeah that guy. I think he's in camp with the Phillies.
Guest KC Guests Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I played for Brandon, Fargo, Buffalo, Akron,Buffalo, Akron, Buffalo, Pawtucket, Indy, Scranton, I played everywhere, man, I played everywhereHe must have a good off-season job or rich parents.
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Just what we need, another Disney movie.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I did like that movie about the old Rookie that got called up for Tampa a few years a go.....I think a pitcher makes a better story though.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 That Rookie movie was on tonite. I saw a few minutes of it.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Cool deal, I loved the part where he was told he was going to Texas...and when he got called into the game....I'm a sucker for that.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 MFS62 wrote:from prospectus: David Bell is opening the door for one of the best spring training stories around. With Bell�s back a lingering problem, the Phillies are going to break camp with 33-year-old rookie Chris Coste, who can play third and short. The author of two books, Coste is a Disney movie waiting to happen Anybody know about him? LaterI read up on the Phils in the local paper down here in SJ.I havent heard anything about the guy.Ive recently read Bell sayin he will be ready opening day.If I see anything about Coste Ill let you know.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 ]I did like that movie about the old Rookie that got called up for Tampa a few years a go.....I think a pitcher makes a better story though.Read the book. Not surprisingly, Disney misses the real story.< strongbadvoice >Casting Dennis Quaid as a burned out jock --- That's only been done a thousand times.< /strongbadvoice >
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Yancy "Just what we need, another Disney movie."I'd rather another Disney movie than another Disney music CD.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 ]Read the book. Not surprisingly, Disney misses the real story. Never even knew there was a book, looking for it on Amazon now.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 I missed the existance of the book also.The movie wasn't bad and, from what I remember reading at the time of it's release, was reasonably accurate aside from a few typical Hollywood flourishes. Quaid's decent in the role and his wife particularly so.Yeah it's Disney so they lay it on pretty thick at times but the thing's practically a tear-jerker in a few spots.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 Reasonably accurate, sure. There's just large swaths of the story they're unwilling to tell --- a problem with most adaptations, as interesting books contain more material than the typical length feature film.The book certainly isn't excellent literature, but the story of his amateur football career and failed baseball career and going back to school in his late twenties is a big part of what's going on. The whole "nuns putting a miracle into the soil" frame story --- I don't remember any of that. I don't recall the special mentoring relationship of the young black player, but it felt Disney patronizing when I saw it.The great moment of this dude washed up from the softball circuit finally arriving in a major league clubhouse is all ruined by the clubhouse being Devil Ray clubhouse, and the uniforms practically being softball uniforms.When he gets to the tryout, after sitting around all afternoon, he does a good depiction of an old-school pitcher stretching his arm across his chest (a technique that's now frowned upon), but when they ask if he needs any warmup tosses, he says no. Huh?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 "There's just large swaths of the story they're unwilling to tell --- a problem with most adaptations, as interesting books contain more material than the typical length feature film."Duh!"... the story of his amateur football career and failed baseball career and going back to school in his late twenties is a big part of what's going on. The whole "nuns putting a miracle into the soil" frame story --- I don't remember any of that. I don't recall the special mentoring relationship of the young black player, but it felt Disney patronizing when I saw it."Like your first paragraph, they're not telling his entire life story here.And while one of the HS players was depicted as black, there was no particular "special mentoring" for him. If anything, the white catcher was the one portrayed as his main confidant/go-between. "The great moment of this dude washed up from the softball circuit finally arriving in a major league clubhouse is all ruined by the clubhouse being Devil Ray clubhouse, and the uniforms practically being softball uniforms."Would you prefer it if they changed the team he came up with in order to make the story more aesthetically pleasing? .... I didn't think so."When he gets to the tryout, after sitting around all afternoon, he does a good depiction of an old-school pitcher stretching his arm across his chest (a technique that's now frowned upon), but when they ask if he needs any warmup tosses, he says no. Huh?"Small potatoes. If you want to tee off on some minor scene the least you could do is mock the 'radar trap' scene; a bit of hokum that not only didn't happen but couldn't.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 ]And while one of the HS players was depicted as black, there was no particular "special mentoring" for him. If anything, the white catcher was the one portrayed as his main confidant/go-between. I'm speaking of one of his minor-league teammates.]Would you prefer it if they changed the team he came up with in order to make the story more aesthetically pleasing? .... I didn't think so. That's a cheap framing of the argument. I found it funny is all. A better idea would be perhaps not to milk the scene for all it was worth when it isn't working. More moving to the story was when Boggs and McGriff made a point of welcoming him. Another fun thing that happened is a player who came up shortly after him (after six or seven years in the minors) who stood in the clubhouse and proclaimed, "I can't believe I finally made it to the bigs," and promptly got fined by McGriff's kangaroo court for showing Morris up.]Small potatoes.Sometimes one bad potato can spoil the whole bunch girl. Disney... with their golden sunsets and perfectly rugged nonthreatening heroes.... did you see what they did to Devo?
duan Old-Timey Member Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Edgy DC wrote:Reasonably accurate, sure. There's just large swaths of the story they're unwilling to tell --- a problem with most adaptations, as interesting books contain more material than the typical length feature film.That's certainly true, but a skilled adaptation will usually stay away from trying to replicate the book. A good example of this is Cider House Rules where the book was mammoth, but the onscreen adaptation made the story more concise, staying true to the heart of it, but being a much better movie by understanding what movies do well rather then trying to be a novel on screen.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I thought the locker room scene worked well enough - Devil Dog unis and all - between their awe at the famous names on jerseys and just the pristine spaciousness of it all. "We're not in Kansas anymore".Yes the character of "Brooks" was basically made up. I did one time find a TBDR who also made his debut within a day or so of Morris - a name I knew but have since forgotten. He wasn't black and wasn't a superstar type (at least didn't become one) but I'm not upset over the movie's contrast of an older guy hanging on for one last chance with a cocky, 'thinks-he-can't-miss' kid.The brief, half-hearted stretch before auditioning was, I thought, consistant with his 'let's get this over with so I can tell the kids I tried' attitude he had going in.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 ]He wasn't black and wasn't a superstar type (at least didn't become one) but I'm not upset over the movie's contrast of an older guy hanging on for one last chance with a cocky, 'thinks-he-can't-miss' kid. i didn't see the purpose of that sub-plot as provinding a contrast; I saw it as a patronizing reiteration of Diff'rent Stronkes-era race values.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 From the AC Press:] When the 25 man roster was completed late Sunday [....] feel good story Chris Coste was out of here. David Bell proved healthy enough to avoid the DL.]Coste, a career minor leaguer trying to make the Phillies as a 33 year old rookie, believed he played his way on the team with his .463 batting average, while showing he could catch and play first baes in the major leagues.But (GM) Gillick and Charlie Manuel didnt feel comfortable with only four outfielders, and when they had a chance to get (outfielder David) Dellicci [...] they jumped at it.[...]That meant the end for Coste, who was sent back to triple A Scranton."I got a chance to play," Coste said before packing his bags. "That was a big thing. Given a shot? I don't know."Coste then excused himself and headed for a back room in the clubhouse, out of view of the media.
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