Damon is a Yankee :(

[nymr83]

4 years, 52 mil.

[Zvon]

mmmmmmm.

52?

mmmmmmm.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Good. He's got an ugly swing and his wife has fake yabbos.

[Frayed Knot]

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that Boras didn't stick to his original claim of 7 years or bust.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

He also has a shitty arm.

[Frayed Knot]

He's also not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

The arm is the funny part since a large part of the complaints about Bernie concerned his arm. Damon didn't have a good arm to start with and then if got worse as he didn't seem healthy at the end of this past season.

He's still a good leadoff hitter and this deal doesn't look to be too long.
Of course he's going to have to chop all that hair/beard off and I'm sure he'll tell anyone who'll listen how happy he is to do it.

[Guest cooby]

I haven't been this stunned by a baseball transaction in I don't know how long

[Guest Edgy DC]

He looks to be not far from being another sub-standard centerfielder. Let's see.

Boston fans will. Be. Viscious.

[nymr83]

]He's still a good leadoff hitter and this deal doesn't look to be too long.

if the yankees lead him off it will be a poor decision. Derek Jeter is a better leadoff hitter

[Guest Matt Murdock, Esq.]

one of them will bat first, the other second. I think it's immaterial which one hits where, and you could do a thousand simulation studies without finding any discernable distinction in the offensive production of one lineup over the other.

At any rate, Yanks overpaid, so i'm happy. I bet Yankoids turn on him faster than you can say "chuck knaubloch"

[Zvon]

Nymr83 wrote: ]He's still a good leadoff hitter and this deal doesn't look to be too long. if the yankees lead him off it will be a poor decision. Derek Jeter is a better leadoff hitter

Jeter struck out 117 times last season.
Thats alot for a lead off guy.
Johnny Kd 68 times.

I cant picture Damon w/o his hair and grubby look.

[Frayed Knot]

"I think it's immaterial which one hits where, and you could do a thousand simulation studies without finding any discernable distinction in the offensive production of one lineup over the other."

Of course it won't matter, but it's amazing how many MFY fans think that moving Jeter to the #2 slot is uber-critical.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Now playing: Damon Yankees!

[Guest Matt Murdock, Esq.]

]Of course it won't matter, but it's amazing how many MFY fans think that moving Jeter to the #2 slot is uber-critical.

it would only matter if that's what Jeter wanted.
But i don't think he gives a ratzass.

and nice use of Uber as a prefix, in the context of Von Steingrabber's MFYs.

[Guest abogdan]

Yeah, it's probably too long and too much, but this move significantly increase the Yankees' chances at winning the AL East by filling a major hole and hurting the Red Sox. Damon doesn't have an arm, but he has much more range than Bernie did and makes the Yankee lineup even more ridiculous than it already was.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

I'm disappointed. For 4 years, the Sox should have re-signed him, even granting that the 4th year is kinda a gamble. An LT contract for someone with Damon's abilities, at Damon's age (as with Piazza or Pedro), the team has to assume that you're getting a quality player for a couple of years, and paying nasally for the privilege (more than the $$$ value you're paying for those first few years) and then beyond year three, it's all a crapshoot. But here there is only the one year beyond year three, so the Sox should have, IMO, coughed up the scratch. This was a great deal (for the Sox) if the Yankees had gone for Boras 7-years-or-bust gambit but they should have gone for a 4 year deal themselves.

Damned lousy cheapass Sox.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

F the MFYs and the Red Sox.

I mean, good luck to the latter, but know also I've reserved a window seat on the Blue Jays Bandwagon. If that doesn't work out, I am strongly behind the O's. Strongly!

[nymr83]

]Jeter struck out 117 times last season. Thats alot for a lead off guy. Johnny Kd 68 times.

strikeouts are no more harmful than other outs, furthermore, even if they were more harmful you'd be better off putting htem in the leadoff spot where there is nobody on base in front of you.

[nymr83]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Damned lousy cheapass Sox.

turnig your back on your 2nd franchise in a year?

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

What are you talking about?

I've always been a White Sox fan.

[Guest vtmet]

Between Jeter and Damon, they've scored over 470 runs in the last 2 seasons...that's a lot of runs...With Jeter having decent speed and Damon being a lefty with some pop batting in Yankme Stadium, IMO, it would make more sense for Jeter to leadoff...giving Damon some cheap speed/shortporch induced HRs or giving AROD a lot of 1st and 3rd situations due to a lefty at bat with Giambi the statue holding Jeter and Cano cheating towards the 2B bag...but hopefully, Torre ain't that smart...

[seawolf17]

I didn't want to hate Johnny Damon, but I think I can find it in my heart to do so.

[Frayed Knot]

Reports have Boston drawing the line at 4yrs/$40 -- so it was the money rather than the years that spooked them.
Big holes for the Sox at both CF & SS right now, not a good place to be in with many of the big deals having already been made. Hanley Ramirez - the hot prospect dealt in the Josh Beckett deal - was to be their future at one or the other of those positions ... and now he's their future at neither.

[seawolf17]

If only we still had Mike Cameron lying around...

[Guest Edgy DC]

So, the difference is 12 mills.

Is 12 out of 52 worth it to you (assuming you're Johnny Damon) to be the heroic hirsute caveman Irish-named hero to whiteys and their children throughout New England --- the one who spit in the face of the robber baron --- rather then just another airbrushed Kool-Aid guzzler in the Bronx?

Assuming you can make a little (but not a lot) more, endorsement-wise, as the main face of the Sawx, rather than one of a handful of alternatives to Jeter in the Bronx, assuming you now have to watch out for a betrayed New Englander punching you out upon recognition in every airport you ever go through --- is that worth 12 mills?

Does he perhaps think that the Sawx, post-Theo, can't sustain their level of performance, and he's getting out while the getting is good, because who wants to be the face of a team in decline? (See Piazza, Mike, 2001-2005.)

[Willets Point]

Eh...I'm okay with this. The Yankees are just rewarding Damon for all the good he did for the Red Sox while he goes into decline with them.

That is if he doesn't make ... THE SPEECH.

[smg58]

It's a coup for the Yankees, and it puts the Red Sox on the ropes in a big way. The Yankees may wind up overpaying a guy past his prime down the road a bit, but when has that stopped them before?

[Guest Edgy DC]

The real question is "When has it hurt them before?" and the answer might be "More often than we might appreciate."

It's sure hurt my team.

[Elster88]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: I'm disappointed. For 4 years, the Sox should have re-signed him, even granting that the 4th year is kinda a gamble. An LT contract for someone with Damon's abilities, at Damon's age (as with Piazza or Pedro), the team has to assume that you're getting a quality player for a couple of years, and paying nasally for the privilege (more than the $$$ value you're paying for those first few years) and then beyond year three, it's all a crapshoot. But here there is only the one year beyond year three, so the Sox should have, IMO, coughed up the scratch. This was a great deal (for the Sox) if the Yankees had gone for Boras 7-years-or-bust gambit but they should have gone for a 4 year deal themselves. Damned lousy cheapass Sox.

This is a huge change in your stance from "Don't sign veterans on the tail of their career to high priced contracts."

Doesn't anyone else think 13 million a year is a huge waste of money for Damon? I guess the Yanks can afford it. I'd much rather have Beltran for the next 6 at his rate (16?) than 4 years of Damon at 13. Even after Beltran had a bad year and Damon had a career year.

[Elster88]

seawolf17 wrote: If only we still had Mike Cameron lying around...

OUCH! We could really rape the Sox for players if we still had him around.