mets get delgado (apparently)

[Guest Edgy DC]

If this deal went down a day earlier, Dickshot may have had a crack at a few more votes --- heep and Recap, for instance.

Meanwhile Rockin hasn't appeared to claim his victory.

[soupcan]

I'm gonna hazard a guess and say that all most of you who are bummed anbout this deal because you expected great things from Jacobs and Petite are in your mid-20's at most.

As has been stated already - pitching prospects are so hard to predict. I mentioned David West in a previous post - remember him? I'm guessing not. Touted as a can't-miss, future #1 starting pitcher he was dealt to Minnesota in the Frank Viola deal. I was up in arms over his deal.

Viola came here and went 20-12 in 1990. West's career numbers were 31-38, never winning more than 7 games in one season.

There's two things I look at when a trade is made - does this deal bring my team closer to a World Series championship and if the player I traded away reaches his full potential would he become even close to the player I got?

Well yes, I think that having Delgado's offense brings this team much closer to a WS than Jacobs would. And even if Jacobs is the real deal would he ever become as good a player as Delgado is right now? Not likely and even if he did, we traded him and got his best numbers right now in Delgado without having to wait for Jacobs to develop.

In other words - TITTS baby, TITTS.

[Zvon]

"Jacobs we hardly knew ye!"
*Zvon sobs*

Okay....(clears throat-UGHM-,wipes tear...)


Im over it.
Happy Thanksgiving to us.

I bet this tilts the Wagner scales.
We get that piece of the puzzle and then we see what kind of manager Randolf really is.

I expect someday to see Jake Monster swat one in a crucial situation and think what could have been, but such is baseball.
Three all-star infielders in 2006?
Im one happy camper.

I hope this takes rook 2baseman Anderson Hernandez and/or J.Seo off the table in that deal that was brewing for either catchers Paul Lo Duca (Fla.) or Toby Hall (Tampa) (read it in the NY Post yesterday)

[Benjamin Grimm]

Not surprisingly, this is one fast-growing thread.

[Benjamin Grimm]

A little more information on the deal on ESPN's web site, from the AP:

]Delgado's agent David Sloane said Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria called his client to inform him about the trade. The sides have not yet agreed on how to spread the money, the official said, with the Mets proposing Florida pays $1 million next year, $2 million in 2007 and $4 million in 2008. The Marlins proposed paying $2.5 million in 2007 and $4.5 million in 2008. The commissioner's office, which must approve the trade because more than $1 million is changing hands, will make the final decision, the official said. Players also must take physicals.

First time, I think, that we have a named source acknowledging the deal.

[Elster88]

Not all of us mid-20 year olds are against the deal.
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[Guest Edgy DC]

Mets.com seems a little more confident in the completion of the deal, reporting that Delgado's agent has confirmed it.

[Guest heep]

I am 25, like Jacobs and dislike Delgado.

The deal makes sense, but I do not like it, and I am entitled to point my finger at Jeff Wilpon if I want to .

I can do that.

Who is paying the 41 million over the next 3 years. Omar?

[metirish]

Here's a treat for the holiday...you can listen to Jon Heyman break down this deal on audio..

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spheymanaudio1124,0,694829.audiogallery?coll=ny-sports-headlines

[Benjamin Grimm]

Of course you are. You're also entitled to blame Oprah Winfrey, but that wouldn't make sense either.

[Frayed Knot]

"The deal makes sense, but I do not like it"

No one says you have to like it. Stating an opinion of things is what we do around here.


"and I am entitled to point my finger at Jeff Wilpon if I want t."

And I'm entitled to blame it on Oprah Winfrey if I want ... but that doesn't make it worth the breath it takes to say it.

Some people find picking on the rich kid to be as fun as it is easy, but it also comes off as childish whining if it's not accurate.
Here's your chance to tell us why you think it's accurate.

[Frayed Knot]

12:52

Yancy Street Gang wrote: You're also entitled to blame Oprah Winfrey, but that wouldn't make sense either.

12:55

="Frayed Knot"]And I'm entitled to blame it on Oprah Winfrey if I want ... but that doesn't make it worth the breath it takes to say it

OK, now THAT'S scary.

[Centerfield]

Yancy: Of course you are. You're also entitled to blame Oprah Winfrey

Frayed Knot: And I'm entitled to blame it on Oprah Winfrey if I want

Wow. That was weird.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Very weird.

I'm just glad that mine posted before yours. Makes you look like the crazy one.

Oprah's aura must be haunting the forum today.

[Elster88]

I love this trade!
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[metirish]

[Elster88]

After reading Yancy's, I was going to post that Oprah should be blamed for lots of things. Maybe a lot of people just don't like her?
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[Benjamin Grimm]

Too much information, Oprah.

If Oprah is indeed here, you can be sure that I didn't invite her. Nobody I invite ever shows up.

[Guest heep]

I can tell you why I think its accurate:

Fact: Omar is not paying Delgado's salary.

Fact: We traded for a player who turned down a generous offer and chose not to play for us.

I would not trade for a player who turned me down last year. Fuck him.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

She tried to lick my arsehole once. I hear she likes that.

[Zvon]

I blame Stedman.

[Centerfield]

="Yancy Street Gang"] If Oprah is indeed here, you can be sure that I didn't invite her. Nobody I invite ever shows up.

Lol Yancy. But kudos to you for trying.

[metirish]

heep, you don't build championship teams by holding a grudge, didn't Castillo spurn the Mets a few years ago when we were looking for a second baseman, yet Omar might still get him..

[Guest Edgy DC]

]Fact: Omar is not paying Delgado's salary. Fact: We traded for a player who turned down a generous offer and chose not to play for us. I would not trade for a player who turned me down last year. Fuck him.

It's all so unclear. What does this have to do with Oprah?

Just about every player turns down an initial offer before accepting a subsequent one. Look at it that way.

[Frayed Knot]

Fact: Omar is not paying Delgado's salary.

Fact: Omar doesn't pay ANYONE'S salary.
I guess this means Jeff masterminds all trades.


"Fact: We traded for a player who turned down a generous offer and chose not to play for us."

And this has what to do with Jeff?

[Guest heep]

Ok.

Rationalize this with me. Perfect example: Wagner's offer.

Who determines this? Jeff or Minaya?

I say both. But who ultimately has the final say?

[Benjamin Grimm]

I may have missed something: Has Fred died yet?

[metirish]

Fred probably has the final say, but they trust Omar and have given him full autonomy in building the organization and team.

[Zvon]

heep wrote: Ok. Rationalize this with me. Perfect example: Wagner's offer. Who determines this? Jeff or Minaya? I say both. But who ultimately has the final say?

Stedman

[Centerfield]

I wonder how Oprah feels about people with no talent like Tyra Banks getting their own talk show. Does she feel like it makes her look better in comparison? Or does she get insulted that people like Tyra think her job is so easy that she could do it.

I think Oprah should model the next Victoria's Secret catalog just to make a point.

(Yes, I am condoning lingerie pics of Oprah Winfrey)