Sox vs. Sox Series Thread

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Did Jaret Wright make the MFY squad? If not, today's starter Matt Clement would be the only Benson Buncher to reach the postseason. He opposes Jose Contreras.

This game is just getting underway.

[metirish]

White Sox up 1 to zip

]Matt Clement pitching for Boston BOS CHW S Podsednik hit by pitch. 0 0 T Iguchi sacrificed to catcher, S Podsednik to second. 0 0 J Dye hit by pitch. 0 0 S Podsednik stole third. 0 0 P Konerko grounded into fielder's choice to third, S Podsednik scored, J Dye out at second. 0 1 C Everett singled to right, P Konerko to second.

[Guest KC]

Clement is getting lit up in the first ugly ugly ugly.

[Guest Rotblatt]

I wonder how many Red Sox fans wish they had Steve Trachsel right now?

"Oooh, we're too good for Steve Trachsel! Oooh, he pitches in the icky National League! He must suck!"

Stupid sons of bitches.

For posterity, Clement gives up a ribbie single to Rowland, then a 3-run homer to Pierzynski.

Sox down 5-0.

[Valadius]

Hey!!!!! IT'S MIKEY TALKING!!!!

"What's your philosophy, Rick, when you're a pitcher up 5-0, top of the 2nd inning?"

He asks good questions. Berman blows.

[Elster88]

Red Sox					White Sox
		AVG	HR	RBI			AVG	HR	RBI
Damon, Johnny	CF	.316	10	75	Podsednik, Scott	LF	.290	0	25
Renteria, Edgar	SS	.276	8	70	Iguchi, Tadahito	2B	.278	15	71
Ortiz, David	DH	.300	47	148	Dye, Jermaine	RF	.274	31	86
Ramirez, Manny	LF	.292	45	144	Konerko, Paul	1B	.283	40	100
Nixon, Trot	RF	.275	13	67	Everett, Carl	DH	.251	23	87
Varitek, Jason	C	.281	22	70	Rowand, Aaron	CF	.270	13	69
Millar, Kevin	1B	.272	9	50	Pierzynski, A.J.	C	.257	18	56
Mueller, Bill	3B	.295	10	62	Crede, Joe	3B	.252	22	62
Graffanino, Tony	2B	.309	7	38	Uribe, Juan	SS	.252	16	71
Clement, Matt	P		13 - 6	4.57	Contreras, Jose	P		15 - 7	3.61

[Centerfield]

6-2 now as the BoSox attempt to make a game of it.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Rotblatt - "I wonder how many Red Sox fans wish they had Steve Trachsel right now?"

I wonder how many of them wish they had Pedro back. Oh wait, he only pitched well this year because he was in the lowly National League.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

The White Sox gave the Red Sawx a major beat down in Game 1 of their series. The White Sox jumped on Boston starter Clement for 5 runs in the first inning and never looked back.

White Sox 14 Red Sox 2

[Frayed Knot]

I hope the Sox win the series. It'll be good to see Carlton Fisk's old
team win.

]Did Jaret Wright make the MFY squad?

No he didn't. We need a final 'Benson Bunch' update.
I know Leiber & Lowe came on strong at the end while Clement most
certainly did not.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I'll do a BB update soon, but first there's that matter of a press release for the POTY.

Does anyone know a good way to actually broadcast these releases? I only know where to find them, not how they got there.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Benson himself dragged his ass across the finish line. The final four to six weeks, to be truthful.

[Guest Rotblatt]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I'll do a BB update soon, but first there's that matter of a press release for the POTY. Does anyone know a good way to actually broadcast these releases? I only know where to find them, not how they got there.

IIRC, you'd send them to the sports editor at whatever paper you think might be interested, then harrass them by phone to try and get them to print it. I'd assume it's the same concept for sports websites. The big papers tend to get overwhelmed with press releases, but we might be able to find our way into a Notes column at some of the smaller papers . . .

Most places issuing press releases put copies of them on their website somewhere vaguely prominent so that anyone browing can easily access them--we could do the same thing with an "Official Press Release" Forum . . .

And the press release should contain infomation about CPF--how long it's been around, how many members, what its mission is, etc., as well as who to follow up with should they have any questions, with that person's title.

And a logo. We should totally have a logo.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Is Bernard Gilkey still working for Sports Ticker? If he can run it, that's one source that others draw information from. Bryan Hoch is also a contributor to about a dozen different outlets.

[Guest Rotblatt]

Oh, and I don't know of any easy way of getting all the addresses/fax numbers of sports editors. I think organizations generally have one big push where they compile all the contact info of editors who might be interested, then update it as needed. So we'd have to identify the papers to target, then scout them to find the contact info--should be on their websites (assuming they have them) or buried in the physical paper somewhere.

[seawolf17]

Michael Kazich, Cubs fan, as quoted in USA Today Sports Weekly, as to whether he'd root for the White Sox in this series:

]"Not in a million (bleeping) years. Are you (bleeping) kidding? No true Cubs fan will ever cheer for the (bleeping) White Sox." Not even if they play the despised Cardinals? "I hate the (bleeping) Cardinals, but if they play the (bleeping) White Sox in the World Series, I'm cheering for the (bleeping) Cardinals," he says. "And that hurts to say that. But the (bleeping) White Sox are evil. Plain evil."

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

And that's exactly the attitude that we should have towards the Yankees.

If it comes down to Yankees-Braves, get me a tomahawk!

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, but the White Sox aren't really evil. The Yankees are.

I mean, maybe we should have his attitude. But should he?

[MFS62]

I wonder if the White Sox want to swap Japanese second basemen with the Mets?
Theirs just went yard after Gafanino did his best Bill Buckner imitation.
5-4 Sox, of the Pale variety.

Later

[Guest Rotblatt]

Pale Hose take a commanding 2-0 series lead. Graffanino pretty much cost them the game in the fifth. U-G-L-Y.

[Frayed Knot]

Usually the stereotype in Chi-town is that White Sox fans hate the Cubs (smugness and a un-earned sense of entitlement and all that) but that Cub fans are fairly indifferent towards the ChiSox.

That rant implies otherwise.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

="Edgy DC"]Yeah, but the White Sox aren't really evil. The Yankees are. I mean, maybe we should have his attitude. But should he?

You're right. We should, but I don't quite understand why he does.

Attention-wise, though not success-wise, the Cubs are more like the Yankees, and the White Sox are more like the Mets.

[Guest sharpie]

Which is exactly why we should be rooting for the White Sox here. I have to say, mrs. sharpie got all excited over the game last night and she hardly ever watches baseball. As I've mentioned before she grew up a disinterested White Sox fan but through my good graces is now a mostly disinterested Mets fan. For some reason, last night, we both got all het up bout the Pale Hose. Go figure, I've never cared a whit for them ever before.

[Guest Rotblatt]

Well, they're the underdogs, and if memory serves, they've played second-fiddle to the Cubbies, who perenially outspend them, for a long time.

What's not to like for a Mets fan?

Unless, of course, you also happen to be a quasi-Twins fan like me.

[Frayed Knot]

I think many ChiSox fans are honked off about the fact that the Cubbies have received the lion's share of the national media attention in recent years (despite sucking about 75% of the time) and object to the assumed notion that they (Cubs) have always been the more popular team. Older fans can tell you about when Wrigley was often empty prior to the re-gentrification of 'Wrigley-ville' and the whole "Wrigley experience" becoming tres chic.
Hence the mostly 'one-way' resentment.

It's like some in the under-20 crowd in this town - and many outsiders as well, some of whom make their living telling others what to think - who have no concept that the Mets out-drew the Yanx more often then not until just a few years ago.

[Willets Point]

I gained a fondness for the White Sox and White Sox fans at the one game I attended while in Chicago.

For starters, I never feared that Sox fans would stick my head in the pee trough in the men's room....

Should the Pale Hose beat the Carmines, I will root for them in future series, but until then I'm all for Boston.

As much as people blame Grafinino for the error, I still have an irrational hatred for David Wells and hold him responsible for the Red Sox loss.

[Centerfield]

Epstein said after the game that Buckner never crossed his mind. Not once. Epstein is a friggin' liar.

I was surprised to see Iguchi had hit 15 hr's this year for the Sox. I feel like he actually became what we were hoping Matsui would be. We got the wrong Japanese.

[Guest rpackrat]

]Graffanino pretty much cost them the game in the fifth

Graffanino didn't give up the 3 run bomb to a middle infielder with little power.

[MFS62]

The early edition of the Daily News I saw this morning had the headline "Gaffe- anino".

Cute.

It was too early for the MFY game results.

Later

[Guest KC]

Anyone who had White Sox in three, please bring your slips to window 3
to collect your winnings. Not all at once, everyone will get paid, single file
please. Sheesh ... guess I'm going for the White Sox now. Nice job by
Orlando Hernandez - hard to root for him though but I guess I am now.