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[Guest 86-Dreamer]

I am still confused about that double play - Guillen did not really cover second base, did he?

[Guest Edgy DC]

We briefly "Yankees Suck!"ed a lost Yankee-hat-wearing guy at the Bobby back at the fourth. I tried to explain to Cha that we were performing a parody. She gave me that "I don't know who you are, why are you talking to me?" look.

[nymr83]

]He had to stop and wait until the ball was thrown.

Why? if you run all-out then Guillen is more than welcome to throw you out at second, which would have gauranteed Beltran's scoring without there even being a throw. In a tie game you almost have to know that Guillen is throwing home.

[soupcan]

ScarletKnight41 wrote: The grumbling has come from me, I'm sure. And they can be as stupid as they want - it's their business. It's the trash talk and the sudden MFYesque attitude of entitlement that pissed me off.

Don't waste your time fretting 'bout it.

That team is NOT built to last. The fans will lose their cocksure attitude right quick once their hometown heros do the dog days dive.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Not for nothin but I didn't think the DC fans were especially arrogant. I shudder to think what an out-of-towner might make of a single game at Shea this year.

Dorks who wear things and/or say things just to get noticed are in every park. The clapping for dumb plays happens in lots of places too.

[Guest KC]

>>>Why?<<<

Because, unless I'm not remembering correctly, a replay camera angle
actually showed Piazza stopping and having to wait to see the ball whiz
home. If he went any further and got deeked and picked off this thread
may have a very different ending. Well, they were all out anyways, but
that's why.

[soupcan]

]The clapping for dumb plays happens in lots of places too.

Dude - a standing O from the whole park last night as Livan left the mound?

Pitched to one batter in the 8th, gave up 8 hits, 5 runs (all earned), 3 walks, 4 Ks and a HR.

That deserves an ovation?

These chuckleheads are clueless.

[nymr83]

KC wrote: >>>Why?<<< Because, unless I'm not remembering correctly, a replay camera angle actually showed Piazza stopping and having to wait to see the ball whiz home. If he went any further and got deeked and picked off this thread may have a very different ending. Well, they were all out anyways, but that's why.

theres was 1 out not 2, if he gets thrown out trying for second allowing beltran to score without a throw in the process i'm ok with that.
i'm really not even too upset about what did happen because you are trying to trade piazza for floyd's run there, they just happened to get them both which is unusual.
my thing is that knowing the score and situation you just bust it out of the box for 2B there, thers no reason to hold up.

[Guest martin]

i tried to think of how the mets did something wrong on that final play, but i couldnt come up with anything. maybe i would have liked to see piazza hold up and make a rundown at second, but that prrobably wasnt possible.

seems like it was a pretty low percentage p[lay for washing to get both outs, and i dont fault the mets for trying. it was fun to watch, and close all around.

[Willets Point]

soupcan wrote: ]The clapping for dumb plays happens in lots of places too. Dude - a standing O from the whole park last night as Livan left the mound? Pitched to one batter in the 8th, gave up 8 hits, 5 runs (all earned), 3 walks, 4 Ks and a HR. That deserves an ovation? These chuckleheads are clueless.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they're recognizing that Hernandez had a 2 1/2 month winning streak on the line and wanted to show him some appreciation.

[soupcan]

Willets Point wrote: Perhaps. Or perhaps they're recognizing that Hernandez had a 2 1/2 month winning streak on the line and wanted to show him some appreciation.

Nope. They're dumb.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Dorks who wear things and/or say things just to get noticed are in every park. The clapping for dumb plays happens in lots of places too.

You know what? I've been to games in every current major league park, and several others that are no longer around.. This place was as stupid as I've ever seen.

[Frayed Knot]

]theres was 1 out not 2, if he gets thrown out trying for second allowing beltran to score without a throw in the process i'm ok with that. i'm really not even too upset about what did happen because you are trying to trade piazza for floyd's run there, they just happened to get them both which is unusual. my thing is that knowing the score and situation you just bust it out of the box for 2B there, thers no reason to hold up.

The hit was a bloop to short RF, there's no way Piazza should be running non-stop toward 2nd at that point. Piazza only decided to take off for 2nd once the ball bounced away from the catcher. Floyd (although you couldn't see it) must have decided to try to score once the throw went down to 2nd. Both would have been better off not trying to advance - it would have left us w/1st & 3rd and still just 1 out.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

soupcan wrote: "The clapping for dumb plays happens in lots of places too." Dude - a standing O from the whole park last night as Livan left the mound? Pitched to one batter in the 8th, gave up 8 hits, 5 runs (all earned), 3 walks, 4 Ks and a HR. That deserves an ovation?These chuckleheads are clueless.

="Willets Point"]Perhaps. Or perhaps they're recognizing that Hernandez had a 2 1/2 month winning streak on the line and wanted to show him some appreciation.

Exactly right, WP.

Use the principle I often apply to Demo/Pubbie issues: If your guy were doing the same thing you're so bitterly complaining the other guy is doing, would you be defending it? Would at least your vitriol be simmered down? Yes? Then please STFU and use that information, plus the brains God gave a cashew nut, and learn how to modify your own obnoxious behavior to the minimal standards you expect others to adhere to.

Mets fans have never given an SO to a mediocre performance from one of their favorites? Mets fans have never chanted that so-and-so sucks? Why not open a booth supplying Expos/Nats fans with applications for Mets enmity, have them state how long they've hated the Mets for, have them notorize the statement, run the application past your board for Mets-haters certification, and let them know when they've qualified? Pull-leaze.

[MFS62]

While this discussion was going on, other baseball stuff was going on.

The National League Mets weren't the only organization team to beat the Nats today.
Look at this:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores105/105188/BBM2005_07_07_natrok-mtsrok-1.htm

Later

[seawolf17]

20 runs without the benefit of a home run. I guess drawing fourteen walks will do that.

[Theoldmole]

Well, with Robin Ventura at third for the Mets, what do you expect?

[Guest holychicken]

Reyes would have managed to not get a walk.