Edgy MD Site Manager Posted Tuesday at 02:14 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:14 PM Felix Mantilla John Stephenson Art Shamsky Don Hahn Wayne Garrett Chico Walker Rubén Tejada Curtis Granderson What club do all of these beloved Mets belong to? What, besides their Metly status, do they all have in common?
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted Tuesday at 02:50 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:50 PM They were struck out by Nolan Ryan? Later
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted Tuesday at 02:57 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:57 PM Eight people who have never been in my kitch--- ah, dammit. We had Shamsky over for dinner that one time. I have no idea where to start on this, but I'm going to guess it has something to do with leading off, maybe? They're all hitters, so I assume it's something hitting-related. whippoorwill 1
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted Tuesday at 02:58 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 02:58 PM A quick check suggests Felix Mantilla was not born in Florida, and Curtis Granderson was not struck out by Nolan Ryan. They are indeed all hitters.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM Yeah after I said that I looked up Mantilla
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM I'm thinking the last active player who could say he was struck out by Ryan was Manny Ramirez, who debuted in 1993 and lasted until 2011. OE: That's a no. Manny's only appearance against Texas that year came with Kenny Rogers on the mound.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted Tuesday at 03:23 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 03:23 PM Best I could find on the Ryan front is Eduardo Perez, who faced Nolan Ryan three times in 1993 and struck out two times, and then went on to last until 2006. Jim Edmonds faced Ryan as a rookie in 1993, and lasted all the way through to 2011, but he disqualified himself by showing heart, putting the ball in play all three times against the 46-year-old phenom.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted Tuesday at 03:31 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:31 PM They appeared on Kiner's Korner? Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted Tuesday at 03:35 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 03:35 PM I would doubt that as Kiner's Korner last aired in 1995 to the best of my knowledge. It's theoretically possible that Ruben Tejada appeared on Kiner's Korner as a five-year Panamanian, but I think I would have remembered that.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted Tuesday at 05:38 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:38 PM All had their legs broken by Chase Utley? MFS62 1
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted Tuesday at 05:38 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:38 PM They did the same thing in their first major league at bat - struck out or got a hit? It wasn't clear if they are the only members of that club. Later
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted Tuesday at 10:39 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:39 PM There’s one specific thing I’m certain Chico did as Met, and I see two 2015 Mets here so my guess is they all made the last out for a team being no-hit? I don’t think there were that many no hitters thrown against the Mets so I’m guessing some of these guys were the final victim for other teams.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted Tuesday at 11:45 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 11:45 PM 1 hour ago, Gwreck said: There’s one specific thing I’m certain Chico did as Met, and I see two 2015 Mets here so my guess is they all made the last out for a team being no-hit? This is correct. A review of Mets no hitters suggests a couple of things: As much as any dog may be able to have his day, better pitchers are going to get these things more frequently, and the Hall of Famers more frequently than that. These things tend to happen more frequently in mid-summer, perhaps when a lineup is fatigued from the grind. They also tend to happen the last week of the season, perhaps when a lineup has one foot in the offseason. They also tend to happen in doubleheaders, perhaps when the line-up is checkered with subs and perhaps conserving their bullets. Date Opponent Pitcher Last Out Note(s) June 30, 1962 Los Angeles Dodgers Sandy Koufax Felix Mantilla June 21, 1964 Philadelphia Phillies Jim Bunning John Stephenson Perfect game; first game of DH September 20, 1969 Pittsburgh Pirates Bob Moose Art Shamsky October 2, 1972 Montreal Expos Bill Stoneman Don Hahn First MLB no-hitter pitched outside US; first game of DH August 24, 1975 San Francisco Giants Ed Halicki Wayne Garrett Second game of DH September 8, 1993 Houston Astros Darryl Kile Chico Walker June 9, 2015 San Francisco Giants Chris Heston Rubén Tejada Octtober 3, 2015 Washington Nationals Max Scherzer Curtis Granderson Second game of DH whippoorwill 1
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted yesterday at 01:27 AM Posted yesterday at 01:27 AM I had completely forgotten about the Moose, Halicki, and Stoneman games. At the time of the Moose game, the Mets were up 4 on the Cubs, a magic number of 7 with 11 left to play (including a final 2 games against the Cubs that wound up not mattering). Not quite a meaningless game but the Miracle was clearly in sight. By contrast, the season was long over for the 72 and 93 Mets, and the 2015 game was meaningless as the Mets were locked into the third seed at that point. No pitch count data is available for 1972 but Stoneman walked 7 and struck out 9…must have been quite a few pitches thrown.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago What I get from 1969 and 2015 (twice!) being on this list is that getting no-hit is in no way the mark of a bad team.
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