Is this Ed Kranepool's boyhood home?

[roger_that]

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8244341,-73.8493279,3a,30y,307.25h,91.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.9188173129504946%26panoid%3D1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg%26yaw%3D307.25451504062937!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwNi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw%3D%3Dhttps://www.google.com/maps/@40.8244341,-73.8493279,3a,30y,307.25h,91.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.9188173129504946%26panoid%3D1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg%26yaw%3D307.25451504062937!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwNi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw%3D%3D



Google says the building with the driving school is 847 Castle Hill Avenue, and he listed 847 Castle Hill Road as his address in 1962. Any Bronx boys here, or fans who've made the pilgrimage?

[MFS62]

My wife lived on Story avenue (the next block over according to the map inset) and went to James Monroe High School when Kranepool was there. She was a year ahead of him, and she's told me she wasn't in any of his classes.

She was an MFY fan(still is), so I doubt she cared where he lived. But she probably knows where it is.

Later

[roger_that]

Seems awfully grim. No hint that he grew up, upstairs from a driving school and income tax shop, even if those two businesses weren't there when he was growing up.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Yeah. It was on my bucket list. I couldn't wait to go to the fucking Bronx to visit a driving school just because Ed Kranepool might've lived there 75 years ago.



And what's so grim?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Maybe he's commenting on the lack of a historical marker?



Or a larger than life statue?



No disrespect to Ed Kranepool, but he's not exactly Theodore Roosevelt.

[batmagadanleadoff]

There used to be a statue of Kranepool in front of the old Carnegie Deli. Kranepool reportedly once went there to have a corned beef sandwich. But the statue was taken down when the eatery closed permanently a few years ago. How grim, Grimm.

[Cowtipper]

Should be on the National Register of Historic Places.

[batmagadanleadoff]

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8244341,-73.8493279,3a,30y,307.25h,91.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.9188173129504946%26panoid%3D1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg%26yaw%3D307.25451504062937!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwNi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw%3D%3Dhttps://www.google.com/maps/@40.8244341,-73.8493279,3a,30y,307.25h,91.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.9188173129504946%26panoid%3D1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg%26yaw%3D307.25451504062937!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwNi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw%3D%3D Google says the building with the driving school is 847 Castle Hill Avenue, and he listed 847 Castle Hill Road as his address in 1962. Any Bronx boys here, or fans who've made the pilgrimage?

Tomorrow, maybe you can start a thread about Brian Ostrosser's boyhood home. Whaddya say?

[Cowtipper]

Being from Canada I imagine Ostrosser grew up in an igloo, so his childhood home is probably melted by now.

[roger_that]

I got the address off a form I'd like to reproduce here--SABR just posted a bunch of documents. I screenshotted it, but am having some trouble getting it to post. Not a fascinating document, just kind of cool to see some of these. Maybe just post the URL:



https://sabr.org/weiss-questionnaires/edward-kranepool-89981/https://sabr.org/weiss-questionnaires/edward-kranepool-89981/

[whippoorwill]

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8244341,-73.8493279,3a,30y,307.25h,91.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.9188173129504946%26panoid%3D1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg%26yaw%3D307.25451504062937!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwNi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw%3D%3Dhttps://www.google.com/maps/@40.8244341,-73.8493279,3a,30y,307.25h,91.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.9188173129504946%26panoid%3D1OPCQIVwauc-tSMyT6Nfhg%26yaw%3D307.25451504062937!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwNi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw%3D%3D Google says the building with the driving school is 847 Castle Hill Avenue, and he listed 847 Castle Hill Road as his address in 1962. Any Bronx boys here, or fans who've made the pilgrimage?

Maybe n 1962 it was a bachelor pad

[kcmets]

=whippoorwill post_id=189229 time=1744210072 user_id=79]Maybe n 1962 it was a bachelor pad

[MFS62]

I checked. My wife lived 1.2 miles away.

Later

[roger_that]

Sorry if I offended anyone with this bit of trivia.



It's a hobby of mine, NYC locales with a little obscure history behind them.



Louis Armstrong house in Corona, walking distance of Citifield, for instance. Anyone been there?



I've got some odd houses that Mets once inhabited in Queens and Long Island on my list. Some hotels in Manhattan. Rusty's former restaurant site in Manhattan. The hotel Casey lived in when he managed the Mets. The restaurant that Ron Darling co-owned with Art Shamsky.



I find it cool to touch the doorknob that maybe these guys once turned.

[Edgy MD]

You offended exactly zero people.



I myself was thrilled and delighted.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Why would anybody be "offended"? Is that the right word?

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

=roger_that post_id=189912 time=1744916876 user_id=128]
Sorry if I offended anyone with this bit of trivia.



It's a hobby of mine, NYC locales with a little obscure history behind them.



Louis Armstrong house in Corona, walking distance of Citifield, for instance. Anyone been there?



I've got some odd houses that Mets once inhabited in Queens and Long Island on my list. Some hotels in Manhattan. Rusty's former restaurant site in Manhattan. The hotel Casey lived in when he managed the Mets. The restaurant that Ron Darling co-owned with Art Shamsky.



I find it cool to touch the doorknob that maybe these guys once turned.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I also went to The Dugout when I was a kid. I made sure to touch the door knob to Kranepool's office, knowing for sure that Kranepool also touched it. I was thrilled. And delighted. Thrilled and delighted. So thrilled and delighted that I haven't washed my right hand ever since.

[stevejrogers]

=roger_that post_id=189912 time=1744916876 user_id=128]
Sorry if I offended anyone with this bit of trivia.



It's a hobby of mine, NYC locales with a little obscure history behind them.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=stevejrogers post_id=189917 time=1744921360 user_id=57]
... the only Met employees in the 63-year history of the franchise I'd say deserves such an honor would be Casey Stengel and Willie Mays.

[Cowtipper]

I, frankly, was offended.

[stevejrogers]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=189918 time=1744921662 user_id=68]
=stevejrogers post_id=189917 time=1744921360 user_id=57]
... the only Met employees in the 63-year history of the franchise I'd say deserves such an honor would be Casey Stengel and Willie Mays.

[stevejrogers]

The restaurant that Ron Darling co-owned with Art Shamsky.

I know you meant Swoboda, but that'd be an interesting combo for a Met-centric establishment to have linked to it



Speaking of which, I looked up Straw's old place in

Douglaston. Sadly, since I like it when establishments stay relatively the same and not completely different (see CBGB now an upscale clothing store), it's now a real estate broker office



https://maps.app.goo.gl/q5Z66pocDDxvypmYA?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copyhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/q5Z66pocDDxvypmYA?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy

[batmagadanleadoff]

Darling and Shamsky. Kranepool and Swoboda. Close. Real close.



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[roger_that]

The restaurant that Ron Darling co-owned with Art Shamsky. I know you meant Swoboda, but that'd be an interesting combo for a Met-centric establishment to have linked to it Speaking of which, I looked up Straw's old place in Douglaston. Sadly, since I like it when establishments stay relatively the same and not completely different (see CBGB now an upscale clothing store), it's now a real estate broker office https://maps.app.goo.gl/q5Z66pocDDxvypmYA?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copyhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/q5Z66pocDDxvypmYA?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy

No, I meant Shamsky and Darling.



It was on Murray Street in lower Manhattan, a half block from City Hall Park.



Edited to add: There's a reference to the address and the co-ownership on the Ultimate Mets Data Base: https://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0159&tabno=7https://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0159&tabno=7 dated December 28 2002.

[stevejrogers]

No, I meant Shamsky and Darling. It was on Murray Street in lower Manhattan, a half block from City Hall Park. Edited to add: There's a reference to the address and the co-ownership on the Ultimate Mets Data Base: https://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0159&tabno=7https://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0159&tabno=7 dated December 28 2002.

17 Murray was what it was called when they owned a piece of it. Not Legends as that commenter said.



There is a long running sports bar called Legends on 33rd near where the late Foley's was, But I don't know if any pro athletes are, or were attached to it.

https://tribecacitizen.com/2022/06/06/the-dark-horse-will-close-this-friday/https://tribecacitizen.com/2022/06/06/the-dark-horse-will-close-this-friday/

[Frayed Knot]

This thread reminds me of the movie 'Grosse Point Blank' where Martin Blank/Jon Cusack finds out that the site of his childhood home is now a Quickie-Mart ... at least it is until it gets blown up.

[roger_that]

I'd be interested if anyone on this site can inform us of any locations where former Mets were known to abide. Surely, some of us growing up must have lived cheek to jowl with some Met for a season or two. There must be hundreds of such places, unknown to many, where Mets have lived, owned bars and restaurants, rented or bought property, etc. No?

[whippoorwill]

This is one of my favorite threads ever

[kcmets]

Art Shamsky used to frequent a not-so-secret brothel atop

an old man's bar across the street from my second cousin's

apartment on the Lower East Side.



No plaque, but there's stories that he swung a big bat. I think

it's now a UPS Store.