So Whaddya Do?

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Alls I was saying was if the team is hopelessly out of the race it only makes sense to rid the ship of the guys who won't be part of the solution next year while hopefully making room for or acquiring guys who might. It was a hypothetical on top of a hypothetical.

[smg58]

I don't know if it's hopeless -- much like St. Louis, there is too much talent to say it can't happen (although the Cardinals do have the benefit of a much weaker division). And we're a month away from needing to make a call on that.



Having said that, you could still make a strong case that moving guys like Canha, Escobar, or Vogelbach would do nothing to hurt our chances this year while giving us a longer look at our younger players. Pham is a different story: perhaps you sell high while you can, but I think you would have to be willing to sacrifice the present to move him and I'm not there yet. Marte has two more years, along with the catch-22 that if he's playing well enough that another team would take the contract on, we probably don't want to part with him.

[ashie62]

The Angels lost two third baseman to injury, Rendon and Urshela so it makes sense for them to take Escobar



Is it selling season?



There does seem to be some interest in Pham, according to SI



I could see moving the over 30 guys to the benefit of some Syracuse players



Would someone take Verlander's contract?

[bmfc1]

If it gets to July and they are still dropping popups and running to 1B via the mound then perhaps you trade everyone that won't be here next year, including Pham and Canha (ugh, I'm a fan!), for more "one-year away" prospects. The earlier you do it (as with the EE trade) the more value the other team gets out of the player. The Mets can keep their core intact so they can claim they are not giving up on this season while trying to improve the team for next year and the farm system overall.

[Lefty Specialist]

No one is taking Verlander's contract unless Cohen pays 75% of it. Same for Scherzer.



Move Canha, put McNeil in LF and play Mauricio at 2nd. Pham will have some interest, but trading him will seem more of a 'give-up' move. They were careful to characterize EE trade as dealing from excess.

[MFS62]

Lets' start with first things first - fundamentals.

I remember hearing the story of a manager who, after many fundamentally bad plays, called a pre-game meeting.

He started it by holding up a ball and saying, "THIS is a baseball".

Maybe Buck has to hit the mental reset button and get their heads back into the game.(and out of their arses)



Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

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Lets' start with first things first

[bmfc1]

The starting pitching isn't going to improve as Peterson is starting on Tuesday. He was awful for the Mets, he's been awful for the Syracuse Mets but the timing works for him to start. Timing over quality.

[nymr83]

Meanwhile, Joey Lucchesi has pitched well at Syracuse. Can we at least get him lined up for Peterson's next start... you know, just in case.

[Edgy MD]

I'm not sure what Peterson's next start is. Both are at Syracuse and Joey Fuego is probably ahead of the line for a callup. The team only has four guys in their rotation right now, and I don't think that's going to hold until the Quintana missile fires, so yeah, I think there's a good chance Lucchesi gets another chance.

[Gwreck]

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The starting pitching isn't going to improve as Peterson is starting on Tuesday. He was awful for the Mets, he's been awful for the Syracuse Mets but the timing works for him to start. Timing over quality.

[Edgy MD]

Michael Wacha, meanstwhile, is 19-4 / 3.24 in 208 innings between 2022 and 2023.



I'm not sure a lot of us had money on that coming to pass.

[bmfc1]

Gwreck: as far as we know, that's on the pitchers. Max's WAR is 1.1. Senga's WAR is 1.0. Those are 1 and 2 on the team.

https://www.fangraphs.com/teams/metshttps://www.fangraphs.com/teams/mets

The Peterson move (and I hope he pitches a complete game shutout) is on management as they knew they need a SP for Tuesday after Thursday's day-off and their continued intent to give Senga, Max and JV as much rest time as possible (it looks like they'll be resting in October) so why did they have Lucchesi pitch on Friday (in turn)?