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I dreamed this would happen.



Assuming our light-hitting, strong-defense Puerto Rican catcher is out, this replaces him with a lighter-hitting, stronger-defense, just-as-Puerto Rican alternative.



Allegedly, anyhow.


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The Pirates are the only NL team we haven't seen this year, but now we're seeing them granularly.


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Lefty Specialist wrote:

Hitting .150 this year, which is actually below his .175 career average. Oy.


I pointed out, and a guy confronted me, with this:


His career OPS of .550 is higher than that of both Nido and Mazeika. The same is true of his 2022 OPS of .526. McCann barely edges him out with .543.


That was here by the way, where I'm obviously still pursuing this "baseball disruption" thing that's been happening in my head: https://www.mbtn.net/?p=3545https://www.mbtn.net/?p=3545


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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:
But actually, statues in front of the ballpark are the new retired number, the retired number is now the Mets Hall of Fame, and the Mets Hall of Fame is now what you pass on the your way to the concession shop, or a waiting room for the outfield wall, depending on which side of the retire-the-number debate you happen to be on, if everything else is to remain truly in perspective.


This is going to keep me all night.


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I'm a little confused. I like the idea that statues are the new retired numbers. That's a novel yet interesting thought. Where I'm mixed up is the part about the Mets Hall of Fame. Is inclusion there also analogous with a Met having his number retired? Because it's way easier for a Met to get into the Mets Hall than to have his number retired. And way easier to get your number retired than to get a statue. So if I'm reading this correctly, and I many not be, I don't see how the Mets HOF is the equivalent of a Mets statue.


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now _this_ one i'm confident they overpaid for. I don't particularly care that they overpaid ,because it's less money to him than I just spent on two fit bits, but he's really bad and the main benefit of this is he has probably the best first name there is.


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I'm a little confused. I like the idea that statues are the new retired numbers. That's a novel yet interesting thought. Where I'm mixed up is the part about the Mets Hall of Fame. Is inclusion there also analogous with a Met having his number retired? Because it's way easier for a Met to get into the Mets Hall than to have his number retired. And way easier to get your number retired than to get a statue. So if I'm reading this correctly, and I many not be, I don't see how the Mets HOF is the equivalent of a Mets statue.


It's not. It's just that, there were 2 levels (either, Hall of Fame, or Number Retirement), and that, more or less concurrent with the establishment of a super-premium third level: Statue, that the Mets also realized that guys who previously had "topped out" at what now is the lowest of 3 levels, actually, are being "promoted" to the next level, which was previously the top level. So their numbers are retired, but they don't get a Statue.



And that means, or* *could* mean, that *everyone* in the Hall of Fame now, is essentially a candidate to be one day, "promoted" themselves and have their numbers retired. Because Koos and Mex were, only to discover, there was still another level.


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I get it. I don't see anyone else getting a statue or a street named

after them any time soon.


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I get it. I don't see anyone else getting a statue or a street named

after them any time soon.


Right. And for now, even though much is changing, it's actually the dawn, of that day in 1988, and lasted until 2016--or a period almost half of that of the entire lifetime of the franchise, where the only guy who achieved the "super premium" highest-ever level... is Tom Seaver.



Who it oughta be.


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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:



like who is this guy


funny thing about the catcher Perez from the Pirates...right after the trade, I clicked on his hyperlink in an article...and it brought me to the wrong Pirates catcher named Perez...it brought be to Roberto Perez (33 year old former Indians catcher with a lifetime 55 Home runs...then I saw that Roberto was on the DL and they had the stats for the wrong Perez)


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Very often, advocates for number retirement may insist that it's an insult to a player to not retire his number, kind of airbrushing out what should be a meaningful honor of the team's Hall of Fame.



By the same token, the increase in retired numbers as the years pass has served to downgrade even that honor, making the statue the true measure of an institutional team figure.



That's the way I read the comments. Everyone being a curator has led to diminishing returns on that which is is curated.


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