Under New Management 2022

[G-Fafif]

Jayce Tingler reportedly out as Padre skipper.

[G-Fafif]

Padres say Tingler's still their manager…for today.

[Lefty Specialist]

Well, now he can resume his career in the porn business.

[Edgy MD]

Poor Jayce getting the Art Howe treatment.



"We don't want or need you to manage, now get out there and manage."

[G-Fafif]

Jayce Tingler's Padre sense is no longer tingling. He's been officially Rojased.

[MFS62]

Jayce Tingler's Padre sense is no longer tingling. He's been officially Rojased.

"They left Tingler dangling " is a tongue twister.



Later

[Frayed Knot]

Jayce Tingler's Padre sense is no longer tingling. He's been officially Rojased. "They left Tingler dangling " is a tongue twister.

18 states also consider it to be pornographic language not to be used within 200 feet of elementary schools.

[roger_that]

Every Tingler knows that someday he will be Rojased. Some are merely Booning for now.

[G-Fafif]

Cardinals have had enough of that Shildt. Mike is out as St. Loo skipper.

[Frayed Knot]

That one surprises me.

[bmfc1]

It appears to have surprised every baseball writer, as well. Perhaps the next manager of the Mets or Padres?

[ashie62]

Shildt goes to Schitts Creek.

[smg58]

I'm curious what the philosophical differences were. But I'd have already called Shildt and/or his agent.

[Benjamin Grimm]

He has such a silly name. Maybe he can change it to Bob Shildt or Tom Shildt or something like that.

[Edgy MD]

Sounds like the post-season meeting didn't go as planned.

[Frayed Knot]

=smg58 post_id=79782 time=1634240959 user_id=62]
I'm curious what the philosophical differences were.

[Edgy MD]

I'm pretty sure it was one of those what's the right way to hang the toilet paper? thingies. That's ended more than one managerial tenure.



#PhilosophicalDifferences

[Edgy MD]

More seriously, that guy's team had a terrific second half, starting with pretty much the moment I dreamed up the notion that the Cards would be bailing at the deadline and sending the Mets Adam Wainwright.



#DOH

[bmfc1]

From this quote, I'm guessing that management told him to do something in the WC loss to the Dodgers and he didn't obey:

[Edgy MD]

Really? That's sounds like Mozeliak was asking for a lot of faith.

[Frayed Knot]

	TEAM		MANAGER		CONTRACT THRU		HIRED
	ANGELS		Joe Maddon		2022		Oct '19
	ASTROS		Dusty Baker		2021		Jan '20		2021 Option picked up July ‘20
	ATHLETICS		=#008000]Bob Melvin		2022		Jun '11		=#008000]2022 option picked up Jun ‘21
	BLUE JAYS		Charlie Montoyo		2021 + 2022 Option		Oct ‘18		2022 option picked up Mar ‘21
	BRAVES		Brian Snitker		2023 + Option for 2024		May ‘16		Signed Extension Feb ‘21
	BREWERS		Craig Counsel		2023		May '15		Signed Extension thru '23 in Jan ‘20
	CARDINALS		=#FF0000]Mike Schildt		——		July '18		=#FF0000]Fired Oct '21 w/one season remaining
	CUBS		David Ross		2022 + 2023 option		Oct '19
	DBACKS		=#008000] Torey Luvello		2022 + 2023 option		Nov '16		=#008000]Signed extension Sept ‘21
	DODGERS		Dave Roberts		2022		Nov ‘15
	GIANTS		Gabe Kapler		2022		Nov '19
	INDIANS		Terry Francona		2022		Oct ‘12
	MARINERS		=#008000]Scott Servais		???		Oct ‘15		=#008000]Signed multi-year extension in Sept ‘21
	MARLINS		=#008000]Don Mattingly		2022		Nov '15		=#008000]2022 option picked up July ‘21
	METS		=#FF0000]Luis Rojas		——		Jan '20		=#FF0000]Not offered new contract
	NATIONALS		Dave Martinez		2023		Oct ‘17
	ORIOLES		Brandon Hyde		2022		Dec ‘18
	PADRES		=#FF0000]Jayce Tingler		——		Oct '19		=#FF0000]Not offered new contract
	PHILLIES		Joe Girardi		2022 + '23 Option		Oct ‘19
	PIRATES		Derek Shelton		???		Nov ‘19
	RANGERS		Chris Woodward		2022		Sep '18		2022 option picked up Mar ‘21
	RAYS		Kevin Cash		2024 + 2025 Option		Dec ‘14
	RED SOX		Alex Cora		2021 + 2022 option		Nov '20
	REDS		=#008000]David Bell		2022 + 2023 Option		Oct '18		=#008000]Signed extension Sept ‘21
	ROCKIES		Bud Black		2022		Nov ‘16
	ROYALS		Mike Matheny		???		Oct ‘19
	TIGERS		A J Hinch		2021 + ???		Oct '20
	TWINS		Rocco Baldelli		???		Oct ‘18
	WHITE SOX		=#008000]Tony LaRussa		2021 + ???		Oct '20		=#008000]Will return for 2022
	YANKEES		Aaron Boone		2021		Dec ‘17		Status undetermined

So, so far we have just three known openings with two others in limbo for now.

Edited October 15, 2021 by Guest

[Willets Point]

The Ghost of George Steinbrenner fired Boone ages ago.

[Frayed Knot]

Willets Point wrote: The Ghost of George Steinbrenner fired Boone ages ago.

Over the result of a spring training game.

[Edgy MD]

Frayed Knot wrote: Willets Point wrote: The Ghost of George Steinbrenner fired Boone ages ago. Over the result of a spring training game.

An intra-squad spring training game.

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Willets Point wrote: The Ghost of George Steinbrenner fired Boone ages ago. Over the result of a spring training game. An intra-squad spring training game.

A loss is a loss.

Later

[Lefty Specialist]

Hm. Schildt seemed like a good guy. I'd at least kick the tires.

[G-Fafif]

Toast and Marmol-ade for Cards. From the subscription-based Athletic:

The St. Louis Cardinals will announce Oliver Marmol as the team's next manager on Monday morning, sources tell The Athletic. Marmol, 35, had been bench coach for the Cardinals since 2019 and previously was first base coach for the two seasons prior. The Cardinals fired manager Mike Shildt earlier this month after four seasons with the club. John Mozeliak, Cardinals president of baseball operations, cited “philosophical differences” for doing so. Shildt ended his tenure in St. Louis with a 252-199 record and three playoff appearances. Marmol, 35, will be the youngest manager in MLB. He will also be the first Cardinals manager of color since Mike González in 1940. The Cardinals, who finished the 2021 season 90-72, lost 3-1 to the Los Angeles Dodgers in the National League wild card game.

https://theathletic.com/news/st-louis-cardinals-to-introduce-oliver-marmol-as-manager-on-monday-sources/trsYs3liFFbf/https://theathletic.com/news/st-louis-cardinals-to-introduce-oliver-marmol-as-manager-on-monday-sources/trsYs3liFFbf/

[smg58]

From this quote, I'm guessing that management told him to do something in the WC loss to the Dodgers and he didn't obey: https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1448726545749643276

If the front office tried to tell him how to manage and he told them where they could go and what they could do to themselves when they got there, then he's exactly the guy I want.

[bmfc1]

I agree, smg58, but I fear that if they want Shildt they won't be able to get him as he's already under consideration by SD and the Mets are waiting until they hire a GM/POBO.

[Edgy MD]

I wouldn't worry about that. If they are able to recognize the right guy, there are hundreds of right guys out there.



I think a greater concern is the effect the front office job search might have on delaying the Mets in the player market, which is a much more finite field.