Twenty-One Prediction Fun: Francisco Lindor

[Edgy MD]

Think of all the big shot brand names the Mets have brought in from the outside. Beltran, Martinez, Santana, Hernandez, Carter, ... Lolich, Saberhagen, Delgado, Baerga, Vaughn, Alomar, Foster, Viola. Some flourished. Some floundered. Fate is fickle.



I'm Francisco Lindor, and I'm 27. I'm younger than all of those characters were when they came to the Mets. Some were close — Beltran, Baerga, Rusty Staub even — but I'm the bebe of the group, and that has to be worth something, right? Of all the guys the Mets have brought in to strut around shaking the authority they've established from their past, I've got more future than any of them. Yeah, Ellis Valentine was younger, but the Mets didn't get him on the cheap for nothing. They kind of sorta knew there was something defective in that package as soon as they shook the box.



So there are two questions on the table. Am I going to continue my impressive career trajectory, and are the Mets willing to pay up front to find out? And I guess a secondary third question (secondary third?) will be how many years they will be willing to put on the table. I'm excited to be here. I really am. But with my current career arc, my youth, my health, my non-Valentinian rep, and my knowledge of that Cohen portfolio, I'm going to be looking for the longest and biggest contract in team history.



So, (a) what kind of year do I have ahead? ( will I play it with or without a long-term contract in my back pocket? © What kind of numbers do you anticipate will be on that contract?



Only ceetar knows for sure.



Defense time.



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[Benjamin Grimm]

Nine years, $320 million. No-trade clause. No opt-out. Will end up with not quite as many base hits as a Met as David Wright.

[MFS62]

154G, 27HR, 97 RBI, 117R, .296 AVG, Gold Glove, All-Star, 2nd in MVP voting to Alonso.

And that is after he signs a seven year, $310 contract.



Later

[Edgy MD]

Seven years, $310.



Trump is right. America sucks.

[Fman99]

I believe he leads the Mets to their first WS win in 35 years. I am so fucking ready for this to happen let me tell you. He rakes .290 29 HR 110 RBIs gold glove. They pay him either before or after but he gets his big $$$$

[G-Fafif]

Steve wants our advice, presuming he has our consent.

[Edgy MD]

I wish he crowdsourced folks on the Governor Christie thing.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

25-90-289/365/465. Very good for a Met shortstop

[LWFS]

29 HR, 81 RBI, 101 R, 20 steals; .283/.340/.497

[kcmets]

Has a monster year and is in the top three in MVP voting.

[Edgy MD]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: 25-90-289/365/465. Very good for a Met shortstop

=LWFS post_id=58796 time=1616912796 user_id=84]29 HR, 81 RBI, 101 R, 20 steals; .283/.340/.497

[Benjamin Grimm]

It's simple. Be Gary Carter in 1985, not George Foster in 1982. (Or Carlos Beltran in 2005.)

[Edgy MD]

Indeed it would be lovely if were that simple, especially with the likelihood that he'll be neither, and whatever he is will be gleaned through a filter. The filter is the main thing we can control.



But the attitude toward Foster, Beltran, Piazza, McReynolds, Hebner, and others has tended to be purty counterproducive.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I thought predicting 25 HRs was conservative... I was probably generous on the other numbers but yeah there's frequently that poor first year thing

[Edgy MD]

I think both those predictions would be lovely to see come to fruition.



I just hope, if he does it while pulling down a $30 millionish salary, it won't be framed as a shortfall.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I don't care about the money really. I mean I do but I don't

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, and I care too much about the boobirds.

[MFS62]

SNY reporting that negotiations continue, but the parties are still far apart.

Later

[smg58]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Nine years, $320 million. No-trade clause. No opt-out. Will end up with not quite as many base hits as a Met as David Wright.

An opt-out after four years, but otherwise this. As for this year: .275/.345/.515, 32 HR, triple digits in runs and RBI. And a Gold Glove.

[G-Fafif]

Being offered a lot. Wants a lot (more).

[batmagadanleadoff]

If that's their final offer, Lindor'll be a one year Met. If even that.

[G-Fafif]

[kcmets]

I doubt there's 'demands' going on, but it's The Post.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I doubt there's 'demands' going on, but it's The Post.

It's not a "demand" in the sense that Lindor might be stomping his feet, raising his voice, making threats and throwing an all-around tantrum as he asks for what he's askin' for. It's a contract term. Lindor's request for an amount of money is "a demand" in the language of contracts. "Offer' is self-explanatory. So you've got an offer and a demand. And when the offer and demand are the same, that'll lead to a contract.

[G-Fafif]

=kcmets post_id=58960 time=1617076431 user_id=53]
I doubt there's 'demands' going on, but it's The Post.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I predict they meet in the middle

[Fman99]

I agree. I also think it'll be closer to the $325m figure than the $385m one. Lindor wants to start on the good foot, not be the guy who rejected one of the biggest contract offers ever. That's what I'm thinking. Eleven years, $343m, something like that.

[ashie62]

325, 385?



What's many millions amongst friends.



this will happen.



On to Conforto, who should have been addressed first.

[Edgy MD]

I'm sure the team would have liked that, but frequently markets are set from the ceiling down.

[Benjamin Grimm]

A twelve-year contract would take him through his age-38 year. (He'll turn 39 the November after the 2032 season ends.)



I guess $32 million might not seem like a lot of money (relatively speaking, of course) by 2032, but that still sounds like it would be a lot of money for a 38-year-old shortstop. I'm not sure what they should do here. I just hope they don't go into the free agent shortstop market next year and end up treating all of these free-agent shortstops like the did J.T. Realmuto and end up with whoever the shortstop version of James McCann is.