Replacing Mickey: The Quest for a New Mets Manager

[Frayed Knot]

Who is 'EJerez'?



oe: Ernesto Jerez - looks like someone possibly from ESPN Deportes



So this report is Gomez citing Jerez that Perez has been hired.

Sounds EZ to me.

[G-Fafif]

https://twitter.com/marlyriveraespn/status/1188263326624768001?s=21https://twitter.com/marlyriveraespn/status/1188263326624768001?s=21

[Edgy MD]

Tracky trying to stuff somebody else's scoop is a bold move. You don't want to end up back in your Speedo, Track.

[Frayed Knot]

So now we've got Marly Rivera (whoever she is) saying she knows that Jerez doesn't know what he earlier claimed to know, or at least what Gomez assumed to know about what Jerez knows.



I just don't know anymore.

[G-Fafif]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marly_Riverahttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marly_Rivera

[Frayed Knot]

https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1188264497041018890https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1188264497041018890

The Mets NOT deciding to name Eduardo Perez as their next manager is not the same thing as the Mets deciding NOT to name Eduardo Perez as their next manager.



Just so as we're all clear on this now.

I know I'm not.

[G-Fafif]

Mike Puma says Luis Rojas is out.

[Mex17]

Unless this ESPN thing screws him, I expect Perez to edge out Bogar because of the communication/media skills.

[bmfc1]

Is this the "bombshell"? If so, it's an unknown one.

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1188559718001844224https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1188559718001844224

[HahnSolo]

Me hearing this news: Pat Murphy? Pffft. Let him go coach Notre Dame.



[checks guy's resume]



Hey, he DID coach at Notre Dame [Pat Murphy coaching Notre Dame might be the most Notre Dame thing ever; then again their football coach is Brian Kelly]. One of his players in college was Craig Counsell, for whom he now works.



This seems like a hire in the Snitker mold (baseball lifer who's seen it all), and as Snitker has shown, that could be a good thing. No clue if he should be the guy but it does show that they are doing a pretty thorough search.

[Edgy MD]

Oh yeah. Things are going to get HOT in Flushing next summer.



https://www.theherald-news.com/_internal/cimg!0/dt01prscslonzzgcoswmn8k0pq5iym5>



Seriously, though, the guy has almost 1,000 NCAA victories under his shirt.

[Edgy MD]

Also, Track sez that Murphy isn't the only mystery candidate in the mix.



This is thrilling.

[LWFS]

Is this the "bombshell"? If so, it's an unknown one. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1188559718001844224https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1188559718001844224

Oooh... a secret bombshell. So, like, a landmine?

Edgy MD wrote: This is thrilling.

Is it?

[Edgy MD]

Oh, yeah.



Give in to the mystery, man. They can appoint Grady Little's perpetually confused younger brother, and he still comes in 0-0, without any "See you tomorrow" freakouts on his record — certainly not in a Mets locker room. I personally wouldn't care if they teased it out through the new year. I know it affects offseason player negotiations, so sure, you've got to make the hire ASAP and move on. But in the meantime, as far as I know, until they hire somebody, the next manager is John J. McGraw with a better sense of humor.



Mickey didn't work out, but I still applaud the boldness of the hire. The next skipper could be a fart in a spacesuit, but he or she gets to put his or her name on a Mets era and it will stay there as long as there is a Mets. That's always cool.

[G-Fafif]

Pat Murphy can manage the Mets to a division title in year one, yet he'll rank a distant fourth among significant Met Murphs.



But the opportunity to leapfrog Billy Murphy will be right there waiting for him.

[LWFS]

Edgy MD wrote: Oh, yeah. Give in to the mystery, man. They can appoint Grady Little's perpetually confused younger brother, and he still comes in 0-0, without any "See you tomorrow" freakouts on his record — certainly not in a Mets locker room. I personally wouldn't care if they teased it out through the new year. I know it affects offseason player negotiations, so sure, you've got to make the hire ASAP and move on. But in the meantime, as far as I know, until they hire somebody, the next manager is John J. McGraw with a better sense of humor. Mickey didn't work out, but I still applaud the boldness of the hire. The next skipper could be a fart in a spacesuit, but he or she gets to put his or her name on a Mets era and it will stay there as long as there is a Mets. That's always cool.

I'd stipulate to "interesting," or "mild fun." But in the era of shifts-called-from-your-laptop, pitching-changes-dictated-from-the-assistant-GM, dugout stewardship really ain't what it used to be.



Does a managerial hire really affect player acquisition/negotiations much?

[Edgy MD]

I would expect it does. For one, he's a consultant with the GM on personnel decisions. For two, he's part of the package a player is considering pledging at least part of the next several years of his life to.



That might be overstated, but I'd think a GM would be kind of shy about approaching players with leverage without being able to tell them who they'll be answering to.

[Centerfield]

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Pat Murphy can manage the Mets to a division title in year one, yet he'll rank a distant fourth among significant Met Murphs.



But the opportunity to leapfrog Billy Murphy will be right there waiting for him.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Johnny

[G-Fafif]

Because Johnny Murphy died young, his legacy may be the least known of early key Met executives.



1969 GM who died of a heart attack the following January. Oversaw scouting during Mets' formative years, helping build the foundation of the world champs. Mets HOF inductee, 1983, along with Bill Shea. The John J. Murphy Award is still given annually to the outstanding player taking part in his first big league camp. Jeff McNeil won it this past spring; Garth Brooks won it in 2000.

[Centerfield]

Yikes. Embarrassed to say I've never heard of him. In fact, it never occurred to me until now that I didn't know the GM of the '69 team.



Thanks guys.

[Lefty Specialist]

Dare we hope that AJ Hinch is disgusted with the Astros and looking for new worlds to conquer?

[Centerfield]

I'm kinda surprised. I would have thought with Girardi having given the Mets the excuse to sign another puppet, that it would have been wrapped up quickly and announced today (only off day until the end of the WS).

[Benjamin Grimm]

Unless perhaps the new guy is currently employed by the Astros or the Nationals.

[Edgy MD]

=Centerfield post_id=25325 time=1572285412 user_id=65]
Yikes. Embarrassed to say I've never heard of him. In fact, it never occurred to me until now that I didn't know the GM of the '69 team.



Thanks guys.

[HahnSolo]

Add another name to the list, per Martino:



Uncovered another Mets mystery candidate: Triple-A manager Tony DeFrancesco has interviewed for managerial job and could still be in mix, per major league sources

[Benjamin Grimm]

Jon Heyman wrote: Some of the mystery has gone out of Mets search. No more bombshells. Appears the final 4 are: Tim Bogar, Eduardo Perez, Derek Shelton and Carlos Beltran.

[Edgy MD]

It's going to be Armando Benitez. I just know it.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

When I say "Bo" you say "Gar"



BO!

[Edgy MD]

https://nypost.com/2019/10/26/ex-met-dave-magadan-has-seen-effect-tim-bogar-can-have-as-manager/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttonsGar!



After nothing was announced yesterday, I'm thinking the Mets have committed to Bogar, but they can't make an outright offer until after the World Series ends, and he technically becomes available.