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Mock draft first rounds out there have the Mets gravitating toward batsmen with their 12th overall pick. Keith Law is projecting that it'll be Texas Tech 3b https://kkam.com/mlb-pipeline-mock-draft-has-josh-jung-in-the-top-15-of-round-one/Josh Jung. Though Jung is not yet 21, consensus seems to suggest he has the potential to be a quickie and reach the majors by 2020. Problem is that Texas also is also said to be looking at him and they pick one before the Mets.



Béisbol America on the other hand, originally mocked the Mets as drafting Kentucky lefthander http://www.the3rdmanin.com/zack-thompson-mlb-draft/Zack Thompson. While it's understandable that the Mets are as concerned as anybody about there not being enough pitchers named Zack out there, BA's subsequent mockerino switched their projection to Lefty-Hitting Outfielder https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/corbin-carroll/-69sPBNoEeWrOKA2nzwY6g/default.htmCorbin Carroll out of Seattle's Lakeside School, the noted athletic factory that has produced such baseball legends as Bill Gates.



I know, you're shocked that a guy named Corbin Carroll would go to a private prep school. He also seems to have something of the same value added that Jarred Kelenic brought last year, in that he comes out of high school with a lot of college-level experience playing for national teams.



I know you're all wondering what CBSSports is predicting. They too are calling for Corbin Carroll. They note that he'd be a top-five pick if he was 6'2" but he's not as projectable at 5'10", but that Major League teams might not be as shorty-shy seeing as how José Altuve and Mookie Betts are the best players in the American League not named Trout.



I think of the Mets picking first-round shorties, I think of 5'9" Wally Backman (#16 overall, 1977). Even Jason Tyner was 6'1".


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The Orioles, of course, pick first. Who can remember who they picked the last time they had an overall #1?


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This starts tonight with televised rounds 1 and 2.



MLB.com thinks the Mets want a college arm and also think it'll be Kentucky U lefty Zack Thompson, as does CBS sports.



Some guy on the Internet says it'll be George Kirby, a RH pitcher out of Elon Kollege.



FanGraphs mocked the Mets to Arizona State CF Hunter Bishop with UNLV SS Bryson Stott also in the mix.


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Zack Thompson has had elbow issues. One tweeter notes that Bishop's PAC-12 (tougher competition) stats are out-of-whack with his total numbers:

Al Leiter's son should be a 1st-rounder.



Here is Jim Bowden in The Athletic on the 3 players identified as possibilities for the Mets in Fangraphs:

[bLOCKQUOTE]Zack Thompson, LHP, Kentucky


Age: 21 Height: 6-3 Weight: 223 Bats: L Throws: L


FB: 55 CB: 50 SLI: 55 CH: 50 CTL: 50 CMND: 50




Thompson has a 92-95 mph fastball with above-average running life. He also throws a nasty but inconsistent hard slider with mid-80s velocity and a slow-developing curveball. He occasionally mixes in a changeup. According to multiple teams I spoke with, he has an above-average spin rate on both of his breaking balls. He's had a lot of medical questions in his college career, specifically issues with his elbow, but clubs seem to be convinced that it shouldn't be a barrier to taking him in the first round. This spring, he was filling up the strike zone more than ever and was able to show his durability by making every start without any early exits.[/bLOCKQUOTE]




[bLOCKQUOTE]Hunter Bishop, OF, Arizona State


Age: 20 Height: 6-5 Weight: 210 Bats: L Throws: R


HIT: 50 PWR: 65 RUN: 60 ARM: 50 FLD: 50




Bishop was drafted by the San Diego Padres in the June 2016 Amateur Draft but decided to go to Arizona State instead. The move paid off for him: thanks to three years of adjustments, his hit tool took off this year. The left-handed hitter's calling card has always been his combination of speed and power that has evaluators believing he could join the 30/30 club someday. More importantly, the development of his bat tool has put him in the top of this year's draft class. Bishop's work ethic, mental toughness and competitiveness are definitely difference-making qualities.[/bLOCKQUOTE]



[bLOCKQUOTE]Bryson Stott, SS, UNLV


Age: 21 Height: 6-3 Weight: 205 Bats: L Throws: R


HIT: 55 PWR: 50 RUN: 50 ARM: 55 FLD: 55




Stott is a solid defensive shortstop with an above-average, accurate arm. He flashes solid leather with average range to both sides. At the plate, he demonstrates solid contact and barrel awareness with the potential of having at least major-league average type power. He's an average to above-average runner with usable speed. There is very little risk him in developing into an everyday winning shortstop at the major-league level.[/bLOCKQUOTE]



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I still can conceive of any reason to pay attention to mock drafts. Other than the first choice (and maybe the second), it's just pure guesswork that is wrong more often than it is right.


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=RealityChuck post_id=11883 time=1559585377 user_id=82]
I still can conceive of any reason to pay attention to mock drafts. Other than the first choice (and maybe the second), it's just pure guesswork that is wrong more often than it is right.

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That's all true but it's how guys get into the org for better or worse. Chance are this will be the first time you hear some name that will be magical, or noteworthy, or important for the Mets at some point. That's always fun.



Edit: Look how much fun we had meeting Matt Harvey and Jacob deGrom in 2010!



http://archives.thecranepool.net/14000/f1_t14041.shtmlhttp://archives.thecranepool.net/14000/f1_t14041.shtml


LWFS: The ninth-round guy DeGrom (Jacob DeGrom, RHP/SS, Stetson) looks interesting-- superlative control, with just 16 BB all last year.


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i love mock drafts in basketball and football, but not so much in baseball. draft picks make an immediate impact in other sports. In baseball, it generally takes years before a prospect has any impact in MLB, if ever, and by that time his draft history is long forgotten.



Still, even in baseball, the draft is all about the promise of tomorrow; it feeds the hope that springs eternal in the human breast. I get excited by that.


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I'm dying at these exchanges in the old threads:


Vic Sage

Jun 03 2013 12:27 PM

Re: GREETINGS! -- aka: the draft thread 2013

just get some fucker who can hit please!



A Boy Named Seo

Jun 03 2013 12:51 PM

Re: GREETINGS! -- aka: the draft thread 2013

"Sandy, explain your thought process behind this pick at #11."



"Our game plan, as always, has been to get some fucker who can hit, and we felt he was best hitting fucker available, so we jumped at the chance to nab this fucker."





LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr

Jun 03 2013 06:25 PM

Re: GREETINGS! -- aka: the draft thread 2013

RUNNING NEEDS LIST:

Motherfuckers who can hit

Best MF Available

Real Good Motherfuckers


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Final Mocks:

ESPN - LHP Zack Thompson

Baseball America - LHP Zack Thompson

Jim Callis (MLB) - LHP Zack Thompson

Jonathan Mayo (MLB) - OF Hunter Bishop

Fangraphs - SS Bryson Stott

Perfect Game - LHP Zack Thompson


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That was a surprise but with a name like Baty, he's got to be good. From The Athletic, this is from the Pirates writer who thought that Pittsburgh would take him.

Brett Baty, 3B, Lake Travis High School

The Pirates are starved for power at every level of their system, including in the majors. Baty is a big (6-foot-3, 218 pounds), powerful Texas high schooler and UT commit who might end up switching to first base by the time he reaches the majors. Hmm … sounds a lot like Josh Bell. A lefty batter, Baty can hit for power to all fields. A third baseman at Lake Travis High School, Baty will turn 20 in November, which is old for a prep player, but his 70-grade power and plus bat speed are powerful lures.



From a column about HS players:

Brett Baty, 3B, Lake Travis HS, Austin, Texas: If you looked up “third baseman from Texas” on Wikipedia, you'd find a Commons photo of Baty, a big horse with 70-grade power from the left side and plenty of offensive polish. Doubters wonder if Baty can stay at third base but he's made enough progress with the glove this spring that it is at least possible. He's a Texas signee. One negative: he's already 19 years old, which will turn off some evaluators. Projection: mid-to-late first round.


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I wonder what the story is with him already being 19-1/2 y/o?

You hear stories of Texas kids being intentionally held back in school by their parents in order to stand out more in HS football.

That doesn't seem like the type of things you'd intentionally rig for baseball ... but yaneverknow


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Brett Baty is an A-plus baseball name.



The Carroll kid really was giving off that Kelenic-y smell.


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"Quinn Priester" sounds like the Cockney rhyming slang punchline to a joke I don't know.


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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Mets take another Texas high school kid, RHP Josh Wolf with their 2nd pick/53 overall.


They may have to buy him out of a commitment to Texas A&M.

Later


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