After You, David (Mets 3B Count Resumed)

[G-Fafif]

How many men on third for the Mets? With J.D. Davis's debut this weekend, 172 in all, 43 since David Wright came along in July of 2004. Davis is the first altogether post-David third baseman, as the most vestigially legendary of Met positions officially reinstalls its revolving door until another 5 in our scorecard (if not with a 5 on his back) comes along and rips it out of its hinges for another dozen or so seasons.



Here's the whole freshly updated gang...





172. J.D. Davis 03/30/2019

171. Jack Reinheimer 08/15/2018



170. Jeff McNeil 07/24/2018

169. Jose Bautista 05/25/2018

168. Luis Guillorme 05/11/2018

167. Todd Frazier 03/29/2018

166. Phillip Evans 09/17/2017

165. Travis d'Arnaud 08/16/2017

164. Neil Walker 08/09/2017

163. Asdrubal Cabrera 07/22/2017

162. T.J. Rivera 08/10/2016

161. Jose Reyes 07/05/2016



160. Ty Kelly 05/24/2016

159. Matt Reynolds 05/17/2016

158. Kelly Johnson 10/03/2015

157. Juan Uribe 07/25/2015

156. Danny Muno 05/25/2015

155. Ruben Tejada 05/14/2015

154. Anthony Recker 04/14/2015

153. Eric Campbell 06/05/2014

152. Omar Quintanilla 09/15/2013

151. Wilmer Flores 08/06/2013



150. Zach Lutz 06/27/2013

149. Vinny Rottino 05/28/2012

148. Ronny Cedeño 04/10/2012

147. Josh Satin 09/28/2011

146. Nick Evans 07/17/2011

145. Daniel Murphy 05/31/2011

144. Willie Harris 05/12/2011

143. Luis Hernandez 08/31/2010

142. Mike Hessman 07/29/2010

141. Justin Turner 07/19/2010



140. Wilson Valdez 08/25/2009

139. Andy Green 08/19/2009

138. Fernando Tatis 06/17/2008

137. David Newhan 09/29/2007

136. Ruben Gotay 09/07/2007

135. Damion Easley 04/19/2007

134. Julio Franco 09/10/2006

133. Eli Marrero 07/02/2006

132. Jose Valentin 05/26/2006

131. Miguel Cairo 04/21/2005



130. Chris Woodward 04/13/2005

129. David Wright 07/21/2004

128. Ricky Gutierrez 04/22/2004

127. Todd Zeile 04/11/2004

126. Jay Bell 04/10/2003

125. Marco Scutaro 07/28/2002

124. Ty Wigginton 05/17/2002

123. John Valentin 04/14/2002

122. Desi Relaford 04/22/2001

121. Jorge Velandia 09/08/2000



120. David Lamb 07/14/2000

119. Lenny Harris 06/04/2000

118. Joe McEwing 05/20/2000

117. Kurt Abbott 04/26/2000

116. Shawon Dunston 08/08/1999

115. Melvin Mora 07/06/1999

114. Robin Ventura 04/05/1999

113. Mike Kinkade 09/08/1999

112. Jim Tatum 05/20/1998

111. Craig Paquette 05/03/1998



110. Shawn Gilbert 09/24/1997

109. Manny Alexander 07/13/1997

108. Luis Lopez 07/12/1997

107. Jason Hardtke 06/21/1997

106. Kevin Morgan 06/15/1997

105. Matt Franco 09/08/1996

104. Alvaro Espinoza 08/02/1996

103. Carlos Baerga 07/30/1996

102. Bill Spiers 07/23/1995

101. Aaron Ledesma 07/06/1995



100. Edgardo Alfonzo 05/02/1995

099. Fernando Viña 04/10/1994

098 Doug Saunders 09/24/1993

097 Butch Huskey 09/08/1993

096 Bobby Bonilla 06/25/1993

095 Tim Bogar 05/29/1993

094 Jeff Kent 09/26/1992

093 Steve Springer 08/20/1992

092 Chico Walker 05/11/1992

091 Junior Noboa 04/15/1992



090 Bill Pecota 04/06/1992

089 Garry Templeton 06/07/1991

088 Chris Donnels 05/07/1991

087 Tom O'Malley 09/07/1989

086 Craig Shipley 09/07/1989

085 Jeff McKnight 06/10/1989

084 Gregg Jefferies 08/28/1988

083 Keith Miller 06/18/1988

082 Mackey Sasser 05/11/1988

081 Dave Magadan 04/18/1987



080 Gary Carter 07/22/1986

079 Tim Teufel 04/12/1986

078 Howard Johnson 04/09/1985

077 Kevin Mitchell 09/13/1984

076 Ray Knight 08/29/1984

075 Ross Jones 07/28/1984

074 Clint Hurdle 09/12/1983

073 Tucker Ashford 05/06/1983

072 Ron Gardenhire 09/27/1981

071 Bob Bailor 09/24/1981



070 Mike Cubbage 04/26/1981

069 Wally Backman 04/18/1981

068 Hubie Brooks 09/04/1980

067 Bill Almon 07/27/1980

066 Jose Moreno 06/18/1980

065 Mario Ramirez 05/22/1980

064 Phil Mankowski 04/15/1980

063 Kelvin Chapman 05/10/1979

062 Richie Hebner 04/05/1979

061 Alex Treviño 10/01/1978



060 John Stearns 06/28/1978

059 Elliott Maddox 05/26/1978

058 Sergio Ferrer 04/20/1978

057 Bobby Valentine 07/06/1977

056 Joel Youngblood 06/24/1977

055 Doug Flynn 06/22/1977

054 Lenny Randle 05/08/1977

053 Leo Foster 09/06/1976

052 Mike Phillips 05/16/1976

051 Dave Kingman 09/15/1975



050 Roy Staiger 09/12/1975

049 Jack Heidemann 05/07/1975

048 Joe Torre 04/08/1975

047 Rich Puig 09/13/1974

046 Jim Fregosi 04/15/1972

045 Ted Martinez 07/06/1971

044 Bob Aspromonte 04/06/1971

043 Tim Foli 09/12/1970

042 Joe Foy 04/07/1970

041 Bobby Pfeil 06/26/1969



040 Wayne Garrett 05/04/1969

039 Al Weis 05/01/1968

038 Bob Heise 09/25/1967

037 Ken Boswell 09/18/1967

036 Amos Otis 09/07/1967

035 Joe Moock 09/01/1967

034 Phil Linz 07/19/1967

033 Bob Johnson 06/04/1967

032 Ed Charles 05/12/1967

031 Tommie Reynolds 04/29/1967



030 Jerry Buchek 04/23/1967

029 Sandy Alomar 04/15/1967

028 Jerry Grote 08/03/1966

027 Ed Bressoud 05/14/1966

026 Ken Boyer 04/15/1966

025 Kevin Collins 09/11/1965

024 Gary Kolb 09/01/1965

023 Chuck Hiller 08/22/1965

022 Danny Napoleon 04/24/1965

021 Bobby Klaus 08/15/1964



020 Wayne Graham 08/08/1964

019 Amado Samuel 05/08/1964

018 Johnny Stephenson 04/26/1964

017 Charley Smith 04/24/1964

016 Pumpsie Green 09/15/1963

015 Jim Hickman 06/19/1963

014 Ron Hunt 05/13/1963

013 Al Moran 05/12/1963 (Game 2; T-9)

012 Larry Burright 05/12/1963 (Game 2; T-5)

011 Chico Fernandez 05/12/1963 (Game 1)



010 Ted Schreiber 04/14/1963

009 Charlie Neal 08/29/1962

008 Sammy Drake 08/10/1962

007 Rick Herrscher 08/02/1962

006 Frank Thomas 06/17/1962

005 Cliff Cook 05/08/1962

004 Elio Chacon 05/05/1962

003 Felix Mantilla 04/23/1962

002 Rod Kanehl 04/21/1962

001 Don Zimmer 04/11/1962

Edited March 31, 2019 by Guest

[MFS62]

Melvin Mora. (sigh)

I always liked Jason Hardtke because of the hardtkeness of spelling his name.

And Bill (please tell Joe Beningo that I'm NOT the guy who makes those numerical projections) Pecota.



Later

[stevejrogers]

=MFS62 post_id=5792 time=1554075997 user_id=60]
And Bill (please tell Joe Beningo that I'm NOT the guy who makes those numerical projections) Pecota.

[Frayed Knot]

"Wait til you guys [the press] see Bill Pecota"]And Bill (please tell Joe Beningo that I'm NOT the guy who makes those numerical projections) Pecota.

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: "Wait til you guys [the press] see Bill Pecota" -- Jeff Torborg And Bill (please tell Joe Beningo that I'm NOT the guy who makes those numerical projections) Pecota. Please tell me Joe Bandabingo doesn't actually believe that former ML'er Bill Pecota spends his time making up statistical projections for current major league players!

I was listening to his show a few days ago, when they were discussing the upcoming season, and the guest mentioned the PECOTA projections. Joe said something like "That's not the old baseball player, is it?" The guest and his co-host (Evan Roberts, who knows the new stats), after recovering from the question, assured Joe it wasn't the same. But I don't recall whether or not they explained what PECOTA meant or if Joe understood them.



Later

[G-Fafif]

173. Adeiny Hechavarria 05/04/2019

[G-Fafif]

174. Andres Gimenez 07/26/2020

[Edgy MD]

I feel like that's some sort of record of time passing without a third base debut.

[G-Fafif]

Upthread, you'll see three seasons contained no Mets 3B debuts: 1973, 1982 and 1990.

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, this is nearly 15 months, but that's not quite Fregosi->Puig territory, to say nothing of The Gardenhire-Ashford Gap (which sounds like a chapter in Ken Burns' Civil War that featured particularly engaging essaying from Shelby Foote.

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175. Jonathan Villar 04/07/2021

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176. Jose Peraza 05/05/2021

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177. Brandon Drury 05/23/2021

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178. Tomás Nido 06/13/2021

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179. Eduardo Escobar 04/07/2022

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

543

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180. Mark Canha 08/12/2022



Canha is also the 81st OF-3B/3B-OF in Mets history.

[Edgy MD]

Kevin Mitchell, Howard Johnson, Butch Huskey, Dave Kingman, Jim Hickman, Frank Thomas, Elliot Maddox, Lenny Randle, Keith Miller, Joe McEwing, Hubie Brooks, Jeff McKnight ...



Am I close to 80 yet?

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181. Deven Marrero 08/16/2022

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182. Brett Baty 08/17/2022

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183. Yolmer Sanchez 08/21/2022

[vtmet7]

is it time for 184 yet? Brett Benny Ayala Baty is making McCann seem like a MLB hitter...and meanwhile the guy that he bypassed is the milb player of the week

[Edgy MD]

=vtmet7 post_id=105119 time=1661291124 user_id=80]
is it time for 184 yet? Brett Benny Ayala Baty is making McCann seem like a MLB hitter...and meanwhile the guy that he bypassed is the milb player of the week

[vtmet7]

Edgy MD wrote: =vtmet7 post_id=105119 time=1661291124 user_id=80] is it time for 184 yet? Brett Benny Ayala Baty is making McCann seem like a MLB hitter...and meanwhile the guy that he bypassed is the milb player of the week

I would enjoy it thoroughly if the team called him up and made a platoon squad out of the two of them.

[Edgy MD]

I think the greater concern with Vientos right now has been his strikeout rate. But I'm a-guessing we'll see him soonly enough.

[vtmet7]

Edgy MD wrote: I think the greater concern with Vientos right now has been his strikeout rate. But I'm a-guessing we'll see him soonly enough.

true enough, but Sandy's never seemed like strikeouts bother him unless it's from swinging wildly out of the "zone"...Nimmo used to K a lot while drawing walks and taking a lot of called strikes but it was fine because of his OBP and his "chase rate" was good...not sure how Vientos strikeouts breakdown, whether he swings wildly a lot or whether he gets a lot of called strikes...



it seems like his K rates have improved in the past several weeks...since July 22 (23 games), he's got a .398 batting average with a 1.158 OPS, 18 K's in 98 Plate Appearances (not great, but improved, plus power hitters tend to get more than the normal share of K's, walks ang GIDP's)...



https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=viento000mar&type=bgl&year=2022https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=viento000mar&type=bgl&year=2022

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, as I said, I'm behind him.



I guess the September 1 post-season roster deadline has been pushed back a few games this season, but he has to get a callup in the next weekish to be eligible.



The only problem with that is that (I think) they are pretty much out of players with options, and virtually all their backenders and reserves right now are veterans who would have to go through waivers.



A key exception is Baty, so if they can send Baty down a day or two before the deadline, call up Vientos, and recall Batyman as soon as the rosters expand, it should give them some good options.

[vtmet7]

kind of interesting that Escobar is having a rehab assignment tonight as a shortstop, not as a third baseman...when he comes back, will he be the backup SS/2B while splitting time with Baty at 3rd? (Escobar hits LHP better, Baty is a Lefty)...



including Escobar's experience at 3rd, his MLB experience at other positions:

3B: 5612 innings;

shortstop: 2551 innings;

2B: 908 innings;

OF: 275 innings (with time spent in all 3 OF positions);

1B: 126 innings;

Catcher: 1 inning;

Pitcher: 1 inning;



He played all infield positions in 2021

[G-Fafif]

184. Mark Vientos 10/04/2022

[Edgy MD]

Vientos and Álvarez dusting off their gloves is a cool accessory on this game. Hopefully, they both start on defense tomorrow.