�야기하� Hyun-Jin Ryu

[Ceetar]

https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=14444&position=P

Not the picture of durability, but is very good when he's healthy.

Had a groin thing this year that had him miss a lot of time, though he still got up to 2.0 fWAR. His Tommy John was 15 years ago. Next season is his age 32 season.

It might be the way to go. Instead of trying to find a 4th? Ace, just find a few guys that are excellent, even if you'll only get like 80 IP a piece from them.

[Centerfield]

이야기하자 Hyun-Jin Ryu

How did you do that? Nicely done!

[Ceetar]

Google translate and copy-paste.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

류현진은 뚱뚱해.

[smg58]

He's somebody I've always felt kind of bad for. But like I said in the other thread, I'd need a reason to think he can stay healthy. Otherwise, you're asking a team who last two seasons can be summed up as "one injury after another" to make a big splash by signing somebody whose whole career can be summed up as "one injury after another."

[Ceetar]

smg58 wrote: He's somebody I've always felt kind of bad for. But like I said in the other thread, I'd need a reason to think he can stay healthy. Otherwise, you're asking a team who last two seasons can be summed up as "one injury after another" to make a big splash by signing somebody whose whole career can be summed up as "one injury after another."

Well, to be clear, I don't want Ryu to big the 'big splash'. ATM they technically have (At least) 5 starters. If we could find a reason why he, or anyone really (Hi Big League Advance) could stay healthy, we'd be ahead of the game. Pencil him in for 90 innings and hope for more.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I've always liked him a lot. I'd take him as a 80-100 IP companion swingman to Lugo in a heartbeat.

[Centerfield]

이야기하자 Hyun-Jin Ryu

In case you are seeing this thread and wondering how it should be read phonetically it's:

EEE-YAH-GEE* HA-JA Hyun-Jin Ryu.

(Hard "G" sound, like "Gary")

Also, it's using the familiar tone, so anyone older than ceetar should be pretty offended.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm pretty offended.

[Ceetar]

Google had it as 'yaegihaja' with english characters if that helps.

[Frayed Knot]

Centerfield wrote: In case you are seeing this thread and wondering how it should be read phonetically it's: EEE-YAH-GEE* HA-JA Hyun-Jin Ryu. (Hard "G" sound, like "Gary")

Now you tell me, after I've been pronouncing it with a soft G all this time.
I bet those guys at the take-out place have known all along that I'm not native Korean like I claimed.

[Centerfield]

Looked good last night. When they were talking about how lefties can neutralize a lineup like the Dodgers, it really illustrates how important it is to have good lefties in your rotation.

I don't see how Ryu can be as good as his numbers. He doesn't throw that hard, his pitches don't have a ton of movement, and doesn't appear to have a deceptive motion. I feel like he might be one of those guys that goes south real quick if he loses even just a touch of whatever makes him effective.

Better athlete than I thought. Moved pretty well to cover first.

Big kid. Must eat lots of kalbi.

[MFS62]

Centerfield wrote: I don't see how Ryu can be as good as his numbers. He doesn't throw that hard, his pitches don't have a ton of movement, and doesn't appear to have a deceptive motion. I feel like he might be one of those guys that goes south real quick if he loses even just a touch of whatever makes him effective.

That made me immediately think of two guys:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gurala01.shtml
and
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vargaja01.shtml

Maybe its the water in Kansas City.

Later

[Edgy MD]

I think of lefties who were effective despite having a surfeit of neither speed or movement, and I think of Tom Glavine.

[Ceetar]

Took the damn qualifying offer.

[smg58]

I would have if I were him. The median scenario is he gets a higher salary than he would have on the market, has a break-even year, and is back on the market next season and can't be QOed. That's a win for him. He's betting on himself staying healthy, obviously, but in his case the benefits outweigh the risks.

[Benjamin Grimm]

And even if he has a career-ending injury in 2019, he's already set for life financially. The QO pays him what, $18 million? And that's on top of everything he's already earned. It sounds like a risk worth taking.

[smg58]

I would have taken it if I were AJ Pollock, too, but he and everybody else didn’t.

[Centerfield]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: And that's on top of everything he's already earned.

I think this is really the key. He was already a good pitcher in Korea, so I imagine he was pretty handsomely paid during that time.

MLB Trade Rumors projected him at 3 years, $33 million. The QO of $18 million for 1 year is nice, but you also leave $15 million guaranteed on the table. For a pitcher who is older, and has a history of injuries, that's not a small risk to take.

But I think the risk is easier to take if you are already set. If this is my first contract, I think I would take the multi-year deal. If I already have $50 million in the bank, I think I take the QO and bet on myself to stay healthy.