IGT 05/18 - Diamondbacks at Mets - Weekend .500

[Guest d'Kong76]

ARI(25-18): Godley (4-2, 4.08)
NYM(20-19): deGrom (3-0, 1.83)

[Ceetar]

they're 7 over, we're not going to get them to .500

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ceetar wrote: they're 7 over, we're not going to get them to .500

He's talking about the Mets. It's the only logical reading. And most likely outcome.

[G-Fafif]

If the Mets had begun the season 9-18 and then surged to their present 20-19 on an 11-1 tear, would things be universally seen as looking up or would the hypothetical recent success be viewed as an aberration because the Mets got off to the miserable start and the Mets suck and they always suck and LOLMets and all that?

I really enjoyed the walking around town in Mets gear while the winning was endless. I mean in April. Obviously any time the winning is endless. Actually, I enjoy walking around town in Mets gear as a matter of course, but I like the bonus sense of "YEAH!" that generates when winning is prevalent.

[Ceetar]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ceetar wrote: they're 7 over, we're not going to get them to .500 He's talking about the Mets. It's the only logical reading. And most likely outcome.

Fangraphs projects the Diamondbacks to go 58-61 the rest of the way and the Mets to go 62-61. Arguably that means the Mets are considered slightly better and hence the 'most likely' outcome is the Mets winning.

[Centerfield]

G-Fafif wrote: If the Mets had begun the season 9-18 and then surged to their present 20-19 on an 11-1 tear, would things be universally seen as looking up or would the hypothetical recent success be viewed as an aberration because the Mets got off to the miserable start and the Mets suck and they always suck and LOLMets and all that? I really enjoyed the walking around town in Mets gear while the winning was endless. I mean in April. Obviously any time the winning is endless. Actually, I enjoy walking around town in Mets gear as a matter of course, but I like the bonus sense of "YEAH!" that generates when winning is prevalent.

Sure. Trends have a lot to do with assessment, and I think fans always weigh recent performance as more relevant. But here, it’s not just the record but the manner of winning and losing.

Even during 11-1 there was talk of “unsustainable” and “playing above their peripherals”. The Mets weren’t getting good starting pitching, they weren’t winning definitely. They were leaning heavily on their bullpen and relying on a hell of a lot of timely hits. Pythagoras told us even then that they would slow down.

Now, during the last month plus, we have seen those fears materialize. Our taxed bullpen has started to leak. The manager mistakes that didn’t burn us in those 12 games are now contributing to losses. Our freakish good luck in close games has run out.

More than anything, our starting pitching looks hopeless. Even if you assume deGrom and Syndergaard stay healthy and pitch well, 60% of our starts will go to Matz, Wheeler and Vargas. That will get us nowhere.

Matz maybe can turn it around. But it’s hard to see any consistency coming from him. Even when he’s good, he’s not likely to us more than 5 innings.

Wheeler and Vargas are awful. Like I said in the other thread, Wheeler is one of the worst pitchers in baseball. And has been for some time. We can hope that maybe he magically gets better. But it’s not likely.

Same with Vargas. You figure Vargas won’t be this bad for long. But he’s a 35 year old journeyman with nothing on his pitches. The idea of him starting a post season game is terrifying.

The potential rotation replacements are two failed starters from 2017. We have no arms in our system that are anywhere close, and no real prospects anywhere other than Alonso to bring in any help.

People have been talking about the similarity to 2015 a lot. Sure. There is always reason to hope. Especially this early. But there are key differences. First, our division was generally terrible in 2015. Our closest competitor won 83 games. The division is much harder this year.

But most importantly, our system is tapped. We have no Michael Fullmer. We won’t be calling up Matz and Syndergaard mid year. Maybe Alonso can be this year’s Conforto? But other than that we got nothing.

Look, I think the offense will pick up. Ces will heal, Conforto will find himself. And I do think Alonso will be in Flushing before the year is out.

But the pitching. Man. Maybe they can all learn a split finger fastball.

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Baby Blevins:
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[Guest cooby]

Adorable

[Ceetar]

no one measures babies to the 100th of an inch! Have you tried to measure a baby? It's not easy!

[Benjamin Grimm]

19.68 inches is 50 centimeters. They must have measured him using the metric system and Jerry and Shirley converted the number to inches.

The baby's initials are ELB. Those are the letters I always saw on the old Montreal Expos caps. No wonder they measured him in centimeters!

[Ceetar]

yeah but why was the Rapunzel nightgown i bought measured in 'up to 118 cm'

what does that mean? and why is there a size 4 but then it's 5/6?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: 19.68 inches is 50 centimeters. They must have measured him using the metric system and Jerry and Shirley converted the number to inches. The baby's initials are ELB. Those are the letters I always saw on the old Montreal Expos caps. No wonder they measured him in centimeters!

That's great

[A Boy Named Seo]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: 19.68 inches is 50 centimeters. They must have measured him using the metric system and Jerry and Shirley converted the number to inches. The baby's initials are ELB. Those are the letters I always saw on the old Montreal Expos caps. No wonder they measured him in centimeters!

ELB immediately conjures Emmett L. Brown for me.

[Guest 41Forever]

19.68 inches is 50 centimeters. They must have measured him using the metric system and Jerry and Shirley converted the number to inches. The baby's initials are ELB. Those are the letters I always saw on the old Montreal Expos caps. No wonder they measured him in centimeters!

Saw this on Uniwatch this week:

[Guest cooby]

Ceetar wrote: no one measures babies to the 100th of an inch! Have you tried to measure a baby? It's not easy!

Maybe when they are swaddled in two miles' worth of gauze or whatever, you can

[Guest cooby]

Anxious to see how DeGrom does tonight after his quite brief start last time.

[ashie62]

cooby wrote: Anxious to see how DeGrom does tonight after his quite brief start last time.

Well? Gonna rain again methinks

[Guest d'Kong76]

The rain worries are tomorrow, not tonight.

David Peralta, LF
Steven Souza Jr., RF
Jake Lamb, 3B
Paul Goldschmidt, 1B
Daniel Descalso, 2B
Ketel Marte, SS
Alex Avila, C
Jarrod Dyson, CF
Zack Godley, RHP

Brandon Nimmo, LF
Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B
Wilmer Flores, 3B
Jay Bruce, RF
Michael Conforto, CF
Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
Devin Mesoraco, C
Jacob deGrom, RHP
Amed Rosario, SS

[Frayed Knot]

Despite only allowing one hit that was not a very clean bottom of the 1st by the Arizona pitcher, apparently disproving the old adage about Cleanliness being next to Godleyness.

[Edgy MD]

Conforto going the other way twice is sweet to behold.

[Edgy MD]

Bat righthanded if you don't want to re-injure your elbow, Jake.

[Edgy MD]

10 K's in five innings for deGrom.

24 1/3 consecutive scoreless innings.

[Edgy MD]

Have you guys all been turned to dust by a big purple cosmic villain or something?

Keith does a great report on Rusty Staub reading Mark Langston's pitches. This booth is far better with three dudes.

[Edgy MD]

Three hits for Confie. Mets up 3-zip.

Gonzalez doing nothing with Godley's bender tonight. And .... nothing.

[Frayed Knot]

Lamb's double wrecked deGrom's scoreless innings streak, but I'll take that exchange: run in but 2 outs and bases empty vs 2nd & 3rd w/1 out even though still scoreless.

Meanwhile, Mets have 4 hits and Conforto with 3 of them.

[Lefty Specialist]

Callaway sending deGrom out for the 7th is a head-scratcher.

But damned if Jake doesn't make it work.

Edited May 19, 2018 by Guest

[Edgy MD]

And yet, a big strikeout of Avila.

[Edgy MD]

ABOUT TIME GONZALEZ PUT DOWN A BUNT!

Keep doing that until the shift ends.

[Edgy MD]

Hilarious night for Devin Mesaraco, getting just under three balls in a row.

[Edgy MD]

Ball four for Reyes looked a LOT like strike three.