Winter 2017/18 non-NYM FA Deals

[Frayed Knot]

Doug Fister, 33 y/o RHP, 1 year plus option for '19 with Texas

[Frayed Knot]

C Welington Castillo -- ex of the Cubs, Mariners, Snakes and, most recently, the Orioles -- to the ChiSox on a two year deal


And on the other side of Chicago: LHR Dario Alvarez, a Met for about 20 minutes (OK it was 10 appearances across parts of 2014 & 2015) inks a one year deal with the Cubs

[Frayed Knot]

RHP Tyler Chatwood to the Cubs on a three year deal for "around $40 million".

Chatwood seemed like one of those guys who just emerged so I had no idea he was a FA.
But it turns out that he's been in the majors since 2011 and with Colorado since 2012. But he was only a part-timer for a while and then missed all of 2015 so it kind of was just in 2016 that he started attracting notice [12-9; 3.87]. HIs 2017 wasn't as good but apparently clubs are intrigued by his 'secondary metrics' plus the prospect of the soon to be 28 y/o getting out of Cape Coors.

[smg58]

Chatwood has never pitched more than 158 innings, which makes this a fairly big gamble.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Weird market. Chatwood's a spin-rate darling, but... multi-year deal @ $13m AAV? I guess it's good to be a FA starter this offseason.

[smg58]

Which is all the justification for tendering contracts to Harvey and Wheeler that you need.

[bmfc1]

Bryan Shaw, not to the Mets but to the Rockies. Damn those big-city teams!

Edited December 13, 2017 by Guest

[Ceetar]

Bryan Shaw isn't particularly much of anything.

[Centerfield]

Ceetar wrote: Bryan Shaw isn't particularly much of anything.

I hate to break this to you, but neither are the Mets.

[Ceetar]

Centerfield wrote: Ceetar wrote: Bryan Shaw isn't particularly much of anything. I hate to break this to you, but neither are the Mets.

they're a better team than Shaw is a reliever. And Shaw doesn't particularly push the needle much on the first part.

[Guest 41Forever]

Centerfield wrote: Ceetar wrote: Bryan Shaw isn't particularly much of anything. I hate to break this to you, but neither are the Mets.

I would disagree on that one. Mets are a good team with a season devastated by injuries as opposed to a bad team that lacks talent.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think they're a "good" team but I have my doubts about whether they're a "good enough" team.

[Guest 41Forever]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think they're a "good" team but I have my doubts about whether they're a "good enough" team.

Not disagreeing on that one! Definitely places to upgrade.

[Vic Sage]

As it's turning out, ALL the deals at the Winter 2017/18 meetings aree "non-NYM FA deals"

[smg58]

Still plenty of relievers on the market. Shaw's price got too high. Morrow's deal (with the Cubs) wasn't cheap either. I fell a small amount of regret over Mike Minor, but he may have gone with the team that was willing to start him anyway.

[ashie62]

Shaw is a Rockie at 27 million for three years. Fairly priced for an elite 8th inning guy by me..

I have seen speculation that Sandy has been talking to Fernando Rodney's peoples fwiw.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Not Rodney. Please no Rodney.

[ashie62]

I feel your pain. A Rodney signing would not surprise me in any way.

[MFS62]

Joe Smith signs with the Astros - 2 years.
Sigh.

OE, saw that FK had already noted this in the Winter meetings thread.

Later

[ashie62]

Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic confirms that the Angels' acquisition of Ian Kinsler from the Tigers is a done deal.

According to Anthony Fenech of the Detroit Free Press, the Tigers will receive right-hander Wilkel Hernandez and outfielder Troy Montgomery in return. Neither of them are top prospects, so this was mostly about shedding Kinsler's $10 million salary for 2018. In the end, Kinsler waived his no-trade clause to go to the Angels. The 35-year-old is coming off a down season where he batted just .236/.313/.412 with 22 homers over 139 games, but he's still a strong defender and gives the Angels a sizable upgrade at second base. The Angels apparently might not be done, as they also hope to make a move for a third baseman.

[smg58]

They aren't done; they just signed Zack Cozart to play third for three years and $38M.

[smg58]

Carlos Santana goes to the Phillies for 3 years and $60 million. Even if I was looking for a first baseman, that's about 15 million more than I'd have offered.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I figure the Phillies must see us vulnerable enough to overcome, and Marlins and Braves irrelevant for the time being, and so all they need is a shaky year from Washington and KAPOW!

[Edgy MD]

The Phillies got very little production out of first and third last year. They kind of had to fill one of those blanks in.

Cosart was on my short list of possible Mets infielders. I was leery his sudden and dramatic bump in OBP last year might reverse itself. And I wasn't sure he'd be willing to move off short, but there he is, going to play third in Anaheim.

[Centerfield]

smg58 wrote: They aren't done; they just signed Zack Cozart to play third for three years and $38M.

This seems pretty reasonable. Is Cozart older? I would have been ok with getting Cozart for 3B and moving Asdrubal to 2B. Plus you could slide Cozart to SS if Rosario stumbles and that would make space for Florvera.

[ashie62]

This is getting frustrating. I'm getting like "Pull the trigger Sandy." It don't come easy.

[Edgy MD]

Don't get exorcised. It's like this every offseason until it isn't.

[Centerfield]

Except for the times nothing happens.

[ashie62]

I would just like to see the oye vey taken away.

[Lefty Specialist]

Edgy MD wrote: Don't get exorcised. It's like this every offseason until it isn't.

Yeah, but I kind of have a feeling in the pit of my stomach that they're not going to do much and just magically hope that the pitching will be fabulous because they hired a pitching coach as manager.