This is a most interesting thread. ^That game was a classic JD, and great post there. And Yancys post of support was really well put. Bret, I commend your yearning for new strategies in this old game. But like in JDs breakdown above, so many things have to go right for it to payoff. In either case, of going with a conventional strategy or a novel one like yours, so many things have to end up going right for you. Baseballs a game where, when managed well, options used will create other options, and if you play them in the right order, it pays off. But ill tell you what. Id try that in just the right situation. Say the 2nd baseman is slated for a rest, and slumping to boot. And the pitcher shows that he is, on that day, getting pop ups and fly outs primarily. If my gut said I had a 4th outfielder who had a better chance of continuing any offensive flow set in motion, Id give that strategy a shot. For a game that wasnt important. Because truthfully, Id do it for the wrong reason, because i would only try that if i had actually given up on the game,....pretty much. And if the O steps up and delivers those needed runs, and the opposing team cant take advantage of the holy defense, I look like a brainiac. But soooo many things have to go just right. I could more so seeing it done only against certain batters during an attempt to make that comeback, splitting the 4th outfielder from 2nd to OF when %s dictated. And like someone mentioned, if they do get afew seeing eye bingles thru that hole, you do eventually want a guy to be there for the force play at that point, i would think. If the other team is able to hit grounders off the fly ball pitcher, you have to be flexable and start thinkin conventional double play. Anyone remember when Gil Hodges put on the 4 outfield deep shift vs McCovey in '69? Most interesting thread, which more than likely shows im not such a good manager as well as G.M.