Ceetar

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, Lin-Manual Miranda is up for the song "How Far I'll Go" from MOANA, which is significant in that, if he wins, it'll make him part of the exclusive 'EGOT' club designating those who have won an EMMY, a GRAMMY (2 in his case), an OSCAR, and a TONY (3). He also has a Pulitzer (PEGOT?). But don't feel too bad, it will have taken him nearly nine years to accomplish all that so he's practically a slacker. I believe he'd be the youngest to achieve it.

Revised: swapped Cespedes up above Walker. Moved d'Arnaud and Bruce down a bit more. 30 - Noah Syndergaard 29 - Yoenis Cespedes 28 - Neil Walker 27 - Jacob deGrom 26 - Asdrubal Cabrera 25 - Curtis Granderson 24 - Bartolo Colon 23 - Steven Matz 22 - Addison Reed 21 - Jeurys Familia 20 - Robert Gsellman 19 - Kelly Johnson 18 - Michael Conforto 17 - Jose Reyes 16 - Matt Harvey 15 - Seth Lugo 14 - Wilmer Flores 13 - Hansel Robles 12 - Juan Lagares 11 - David Wright 10 - Alejandro De Aza 09 - Jerry Blevins 08 - T.J. Rivera 07 - Lucas Duda 06 - Travis d'Arnaud 05 - Rene Rivera 04 - Brandon Nimmo 03 - Jay Bruce 02 - Fernando Salas 01 - Jim Henderson

Frayed Knot wrote: Centerfield wrote: Well, for me it was more that even guys that were on the team would have been more effective And, like I said, I think sticking him below the likes of Johnson, Flores, Conforto, and some others is perfectly justifiable. I just couldn't see off the list entirely or at the very bottom down below the guys who barely hit AND barely played. Barely hit and barely played is better than didn't hit and played. Thinking of the overall value of his total contribution. I'm not going to count those 26 XBH without docking him for the 340 non-XBH. I just ran a list of Win Probability Added for 2016 Mets. Loney is 39th. Though he does bump up to 18th if I remove the pitchers (But that's sorta my point) All the guys below him except Bruce provided defensive value at least.

Edgy MD wrote: Who should he have gotten? Getting replacement players who are better than replacement players is nice, but they aren't always in the shop when you come calling. Perhaps the real sin was not having anybody better than Marc Krauss parked in Vegas. they're literally a dime a dozen. Michael Morse? There are probably a billion guys wallowing away in AAA that could've been add for cash considerations or something similar as well. They could've tried calling up the AAA scrub they were playing in Vegas. Krauss? I forget his name. It's a little foolhardy to assume all replacement guys are the same, though granted it can be equally foolhardy to just randomly plug a new guy in as soon as it looks like the last one failed. But hell, Loney was really bad and definitely not a top 30 2016 Met.

Edgy MD wrote: Ceetar wrote: he was a net negative. I did more to help the Mets win last year. I don't think that's what a negative WAR really means. As much as I'm enchanted by fWAR on the offensive side, I don't think they really get defense right, philosophically, although if they did, it probably wouldn't help Loney much, and perhaps would be more likely to hurt him. Well, he gets knocked for the positional adjustment cause 1B is not quite evaluated properly as it applies to the whole field, but most seem to think he played worse than an average 1Bman anyway, so he's actually getting credit. plus his wRC+ was puny and pathetic, on the offense side. 200th of 268 players with at least 300 AB. There were probably a dozen other guys on the scrap heap the Mets could've gotten instead of Loney that would've performed better. It ended up being a bad choice by Alderson. He was literally the R in WAR and still managed to underperform it.

Of 42 1B guys with at least 300 AB, Loney is 36th by fWAR and 34th by wRC+. he was a net negative. I did more to help the Mets win last year. They would've been better off playing Bruce there and not dealing with the outfield logjam. They would've been better off playing a broken-backed Duda there, and should've in the playoffs. James Loney is indicative of everything that went wrong in 2016. THEY SHOULD'VE PLAYED KELLY JOHNSON THERE. Johnson was so much better than Loney. Maybe it was a lot of small sample stuff, but it was 201 PA to Loney's 366. I'd put Thor on the list again as a batter ahead of Loney. I'd put Ruggiano ahead of him and he got like 4 games.

meh.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Walker over cespedes? need to think about that one. Seems like Cespedes might be getting dinged a bit too much for the CF play when it was more of a desperation thing. There's just no fucking way Neil Walker was the best player on the Mets last year. I can't see him any higher than 3rd and even that's a stretch. It's mostly just fWAR. Cespedes actively hurt the team in center while Neil added much needed value at second defensively. The value the steadiness of Walker and Cabrera up the middle for most of the season provided especially compared to Murphy-Flores last year is often understated. I probably should swap Cespedes up, just because he was that much better a hitter (not that Walker was a slouch), but I don't think it's a slam dunk or anything.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Walker over cespedes? need to think about that one. Seems like Cespedes might be getting dinged a bit too much for the CF play when it was more of a desperation thing.

Reserve the right to tweak this later. 30 - Noah Syndergaard 29 - Neil Walker 28 - Yoenis Cespedes 27 - Jacob deGrom 26 - Asdrubal Cabrera 25 - Curtis Granderson 24 - Bartolo Colon 23 - Steven Matz 22 - Addison Reed 21 - Jeurys Familia 20 - Robert Gsellman 19 - Kelly Johnson 18 - Michael Conforto 17 - Jose Reyes 16 - Matt Harvey 15 - Seth Lugo 14 - Wilmer Flores 13 - Hansel Robles 12 - Juan Lagares 11 - David Wright 10 - Alejandro De Aza 09 - Travis d'Arnaud 08 - Jerry Blevins 07 - T.J. Rivera 06 - Lucas Duda 05 - Jay Bruce 04 - Rene Rivera 03 - Brandon Nimmo 02 - Fernando Salas 01 - Jim Henderson Lol. I almost put Matz twice because I combined the pitcher and hitter lists of players and sorted by fWAR and Matz as a batter comes in 29th. Syndergaard comes in at 17.

I intend to do this but I keep forgetting. today. it's not like I have literally anythign to do at work. maybe I'll get software today.

would be nice. I guess we could explore an alternate site but I'm not seeing one that is obviously better either. Though I guess if someone wanted to keep track of it we could manually set up divisions. Scoring is the same anyway, I don't know how you'd resolve the champion that way though.

Vic Sage wrote: positively stoned stones in colon are not good.

oof. you guys are awfully high on Colon.

solid I thought. First movie i've seen in the theaters in a while and I felt old about it after seeing all the tech advances, I'll elaborate on that later. Lots of crazy multi-verse stuff and some inception-like weirdness. I had fun.

There is not.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Hey is possible to revamp the league to a division format next season? Too many of us are out of the $$ and there's little incentive to deal Is there division format in Ottoneu? I wouldn't be opposed to that. I've been really bad with focusing on baseball, particularly fantasy, this year in general.

Centerfield wrote: How much of a downer is that? Han, after all the character growth he supposedly went through, is hanging on as a septuagenarian smuggler? And Chewie is happy to be along for the same going-nowhere ride decades in, still looking for that one big score that can really save their necks? Without even their cool ship to brag about. I don't think Han went back to being who he was in ANH (answering ESS, not Edgy). He originally smuggled to find fortune. He's now smuggling to escape pain. Like I said before, taking our proud hero who was a general at the end of Episode 6, and bringing him back not as a dignified leader, but as a septuagenarian smuggler was a risk. In my opinion. So let's see where they take the story from here. If the main plot of the second movie is repeated attempts to escape the FO with the Falcon's malfunctions being a plot tool, and then capped off by a big reveal of family ties, then I think more will start falling in line with Vic. Centerfield wrote: 3. Daisy Riddle is a star. Tough, vulnerable, funny, compelling. You can't take her eyes off of her whenever she is on the screen. And it's not just because she's easy on the eyes. Even the way she eats her green meal on Jakku is compelling. If you asked me before the movie, who is worthy of taking over the Falcon, I would have said no one. Never. Impossible. But when she did it, it was seamless. When she called that lightsaber, it made you want to stand up and cheer. I agree with much of this. (Yes yes, it's like 7 months later and I _just_ saw it) the 'reboot' was kind of a given. They want to make Star Wars eternal, and so they tied into the first movie and want to build from there. Sure, if they'd just called it Star Wars without Leia/Han (and Luke?) we all would've seen it, but by directly tying into our emotional investment in those characters allows them to tie us to the new characters that are going to take the story forward. Rey taking over the Falcon (and Chewie!) was perfect. Like you said, there was no way to do that and they did. Now Chewie and the Falcon can exist in the other movies without feeling like they're just shoving them at us for nostalgia's sake. They're free to evolve. Han didn't regress, he basically became Obi Wan. Him reverting to smuggling wasn't a reboot, it was him retreating after his son/Protégé turned and his friend fled. (all the Jedi went into hiding) It's not surprising that there were a lot of similarities and overlaps for a movie in the same universe picking up after 30 years or so. (And how much time has passed in-universe? was that clear?) And yeah, they over did it. Let's make another Death Star, only BIGGER. They did abandon the 'find Luke' plot halfway through, and I could've done with some Luke scenes, some preview of episode 8 about what he's up to. I'd like to see less looking back in episode 8, but they still have a lot of explaining to do on what happened between then and now and what the world is like. There was A Lot of predictability to this movie, I felt like I knew the next lines multiple times, and I'm not even a big Star Wars geek. And there are going to be a lot of similarities in the next movie too, almost inevitably. I hope they break from the mold, but I'd be surprised if we don't get a Rey training with Luke while the rest of the heroes are threatened by the new enemy of the film. If I had to guess, this ends with them realizing they're needed and Luke and Rey both departing to return to the main story, instead of Yoda trying to persuade Luke to stay and ignore it.

Finally got to this. Enjoyed it quite a bit.

i hate my team so far. burn 'em all.

Edgy MD wrote: So, anybody? all 5 of my coworkers, from old to young, liked it. All said it was plenty flawed, but still fun. myself, I'll get there eventually..

Ashie62 wrote: My pick of A.J. Pollock failed, badly. well, at least he'll be on the 60.

http://www.fangraphs.com/auctiontool.aspx

Wednesday night. be prompt. I'll leave the auction 'active' all night even after people drop off, but will close it as soon as I get to a computer in the morning. I think, if you want, you can start tossing guys onto your watchlist for nomination purposes if you click into the draft room. I can't guarantee the software will save it between now and then if you logout of ottoneu, but maybe.

is Snukes, yes.