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Beltran had more PA than Hernandez or Ordonez. Sure, we caught the tail end of his defensive prime, and he probably hurt his counting defensive type numbers with playing through injuries in '09+. But he was really really good. He might be the best centerfielder of that first decade of this millenium. Ordonez was probably the best, strictly tools and prowess. He probably benefits, statistically from a 'rising boat' situation where others around him were good too. And we still don't really evaluate first base defense properly. There's a lot going on there and it's hard to quantify.

I was going to go with "acknowledging the growth of e-sports" for the microphone thing. Have the whole team mic'd up, why not.

might be Beltran.

is Edgar Martinez not in? cause he's a hall of famer regardless of what some idiot writers say.

Vaccine's generally take upwards of a year. but TESTING. build in regular testing of players and isolate and quarantine. build into the schedule time so that a team that test positive can take 10 days or whatever off and so can their current opponent, and their last opponent and their current opponent. This would be better with them NOT all playing together in Arizona I suppose.

Edgy MD wrote: On the other hand, if they start playing in Arizona, TV ratings would be through the roof. it'd be nice if they relaxed blackout rules, which of course they won't.

Edgy MD wrote: You never see people mount a dickmeter on their walls anymore. Once upon a time, they were everywhere. Then suddenly, they were all gone! Actually that's one of the new TikTok trends.

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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I suspended 2020 Visions because they had become so popular here that we'd all catch coronavirus just reading and replying to them. and you were all posted counting stats, which, well, won't be counting as high this year if at all!

79? I feel like we just passed all the high numbers now with 'I was born that year, I guess it works' so I'm surprised there are any.

unless he opens a restaurant/hotel chain.

Yeah, but those surgeries were already baked in. Even accounting for those surgeries, Mets fans were imagining a dominant several years run anchored by what was supposed to be a dream pitching staff. Then Mets fans were stupid. And I wouldn't put it past guys like Carig to pump that narrative because it's fun, knowing that they'd be able to turn that hype around for a "Generation K 2.0" story, which isn't true in the least bit but is also seemingly what's being prepped for here. Oh, and guess what? The Mets rotation was projected to be like, second best last year. and third best this year. in baseball. almost everyone in baseball WOULD be envious.

Team has a lot of good pitching. Mostly pitches well but maybe not as exceptionally as "all things go right at the same time" would have been. I don't think there's much here. They took a picture. how nice.

Thor was never really "all that." That Toronto Mets trade pretty much went down in flames lol, what nonsense. I mean, sure you're losing him for an abbreviated season this year, but if they do play, you kinda want Thor for the playoffs. You can cobble together the regular season fine, but that's something else. Of course, the flip is true of 2021, you'd, hopefully, have him for the stretch run and the playoffs.

=metsmarathon post_id=33458 time=1584326341 user_id=83] should you push back the draft date as far as possible, or at lest pull it off the calendar? cos i'm totally gonna be signing in on the 18th at 9:00 and seeing if i can get some $1 steals otherwise...

=metsmarathon post_id=33402 time=1584207354 user_id=83] um, are we sure that the ottoneu system is able to draft AFTER march 26th (the original start of the season)?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: If I were an owner, I'd make Manfred walk the plank now just for the appearance of a clean slate but I'm sure they'll have him stick around long enough to complete the tasks of screwing over the minor leagues and the MLBPA. Manfred's probably been an overall benefit to the owners though. I bet a bunch of them don't like baseball either. And a shortened season might be a boon for them too, as more teams probably stay competitive 'longer' plus pure counting stats look lower in negotiations, etc. We've already established basic attendance in the park is a small factor of their riches, and I doubt they're giving back cable money to broadcast the games unless it really gets super-shortened.

Oh, for sure MLB's reasoning is purely PR. Baseball's great at pretending to care about things and then doing only actually making a token attempt at fixing it. They did not, as the press would have you believe, kick their puppies.

my very point was to separate the two aspects of it. There are probably other words. One place that's literally just showering and getting dressed, another that's all the other zillion things that go on in clubhouses.

well, Comforto is out so I guess we hope for Cespedes. Cano's not batting 7th either.

I mean, the gist of this seems to be: Male sports writers think locker room access is crucial. Sure, some women may get harassed a bit, but it's not bad and much better than it used to be. In the end, hanging out with naked dudes gives me insight, and that makes me a better writer. I don't get what the problem is with the nudity. They're adults and professionals and the writers at least, are formally educated. Doctors and nurses see naked people all the time. And the majority of nurses are females. We're a prudish and sexually immature society and that needs to change and the way to change that is not by removing women from the locker rooms or restricting them. If there's harassment going on in the locker room, I would imagine that the thing to do is to eliminate the harassment instead of banning women reporters from the locker rooms. Cocks and nipples. Big fucking deal. nobody's banning women from the locker rooms, we're banning non-employees, period. It's a damn locker room, not an interview room. If you're so bad at your job that you need to trap a player at his locker. If the only time he'll talk to you is when his pants are literally around his ankles, maybe you're not so good at your job. And if talking to the media is so important, why are we relegating it to 'gotcha' moments when they can't run away? Will some avoid a more casual 'media area' even if that's where all the snacks and drinks are? probably. But guys avoid the media now too. You're just giving them the dignity of not having to blow you off (half) naked while they're literally doing something else. Don't make it a "media area" though. Maybe it a clubhouse. just pull out the locker room stuff. Put the chairs, the boombox, the food, the foosball and PS4,the beer in the clubhouse and all the clothes and showers in the locker room. it's not hard. giving the players a few minutes of private time to be human isn't the end of sportswriting.

Some of that requires seom reconfiguration, but it's overdue, surely. Separate the clubhouse from the locker room. You've got lockers, clothes, etc. the weight, batting cages, trainers room and all that on one side, then you come out the door to the common area with reporters, and water and food and whatnot. These guys are at the ballpark for hours and hours and hours before games. some of that's private prep time, but a lot of it's not. The rest of us (well, you office folk) mingle with coworkers while the keurig spits, you can too.

=Centerfield post_id=33097 time=1583853484 user_id=65] It always struck me as odd that reporters (and their cameras) were allowed in the clubhouse anyway. Why not allow the players to dress, then come out to meet the media?

I fall more on the side of thinking it's somewhat excessive but I don't know. Either way, throwing a fit because MLB followed the trend and started trying to take precautions, while still providing access!, is a bad look.

Edgy MD wrote: Without the data, I thought his slider was awesome, but his fastball was getting pummeled. But yeah, something was getting left up. It's all interrelated. You don't get the slider down and they don't swing over it, you come back with a fastball and they're waiting for it. Especially if you're not lowering their eye level with the slider and all that stuff. Could've been some placement issues with the fastball too