Ceetar

Edgy MD wrote: Ceetar wrote: I wary of demanding he get fired up though. Wasn't there a "Get thrown out" campaign for Randolph? I feel like Manuel spent the second half of 2008 purposely acting like exactly the opposite of everything anyone ever complained Randolph. I don't think I mean to suggest that showing more fire = screaming at umpires. well, it's one of the few ways we can see it as fans without it having to be force-fed us through the broadcast looking for it or the beatwriters reporting it. But I'm sure fans and the media were demanding more fire, and getting thrown out was simply a specific suggestion of how. i.e. Just let Collins manage how he thinks is best. That's his job, don't appease the media's desire for a lame-duck narrative.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: But once the game went into extras he should have made fewer pitching changes. This, I totally agree with. Parnell for two (and he was worried about wearing Parnell out off of evidence from last year, and he'd pitched the day before) Familia for two (This is probably where you needed to go longer, but..precious arm I guess?) Then Rice for one, who'd already pitched the previous two games. Probably should've pushed him farther too though. Part of the problem is the pitchers you have left are usually the ones you're looking to have a day off to stay fresh.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: There's a power outage in Wright's game. Isn't it obvious? Permanent talent shift? Can't blame Citi's old dimensions anymore, right? Wright's never hits for power in April. well, not never, but less. It's his worst month.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: The Mets haven't had a manager as good as Collins in more than 10 years. And it's not even close. This matters nothing as far as Terry's job security goes, and it's not even a compliment to Terry. But I'm just sayin', is all. I will agree with that too. I also think Edgy's onto something. Let's see Terry get a little fired up. I think he gets fired up some. He certainly did last night right? at least got harsh? I wary of demanding he get fired up though. Wasn't there a "Get thrown out" campaign for Randolph? I feel like Manuel spent the second half of 2008 purposely acting like exactly the opposite of everything anyone ever complained Randolph. I'd probably rank 'em Collins/Randolph/Howe/Sandy Alomar/other random one-day stand-ins/The drunk guy yelling from behind the dugout/Manuel

Edgy MD wrote: (I frankly get the notion that he's very good and passionate about developing young players.) He WAS minor league field coordinator before he took the job after all. Sure, he doesn't know Wheeler or d'Arnaud (and really, does Backman know d'Arnaud better than Collins for getting an extra two weeks with him in Vegas?) but he knows Duda and Ike, Tejada and Niese and Gee, etc. All possible parts of a long term future, not to mention that both he and they are there now. Clearly Klap is running with the complete rebuilding, gonna scourge flushing of all but Wright, Harvey, and the top prospects idea, but the 'knows the players' already angle is bs mostly. From what I can see, I trust Collins more than Backman with a young 'up and coming' team anyway.

MFS62 wrote: There's an old baseball adage that says since you can't fire the players, you fire the manager. But, before they do that, how about firing the hitting (and I use that term loosely) coach? Later I like the hitting coach, and am not going to fire him over a bad week. (Warthen, on the other hand, has had years of bad bullpens, and the starters without talent haven't exactly flourished, or quickly) I think the question marks for Hudgens are Ike's slow starts (but can you then credit him for helping him break out of it last year?) and Tejada hasn't really taken a step forward. But he has to get some credit for Duda so far, and Wright has seemingly gone back to flourishing under his watch. Murphy is Murphy, and everyone else might not be talented enough to save.

minor thing, but I wish we'd stop hitting Buck 4th/ahead of Duda.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: BRING ME THE BAT HEAD OF ANDREW BROWN Perhaps Byrd's start today is a "show me something or else" start? (More probably, for Lagares)

undefeated in May.

but here's the better picture from three seconds later: https://plus.google.com/photos/108298182040954132162/albums/5334632508047679665/5872824958777897538?banner=pwa The only problem is I'm not sure I'd want a picture reminder of that game.

Nymr83 wrote: Great work guys! Ceetar, I checked out the album and this one is on my maybe list, hard to tell the resolution and stuff posting from Kindle Think that one's a little fuzzy at full size. looks okay in preview, but the full thing is washed out and blurry unfortunately.

Some stuff at the end of this album. not a ton, some background thing,s some shots I meant to stitch into a panaramic. https://plus.google.com/photos/108298182040954132162/albums/5334632508047679665?banner=pwa

my choice* outfield. *from the available options.

Edgy MD wrote: I think you should photoshop a 1965 parking lot and skyline beyond a 2007 stadium. And have them playing the Tampa Bay Devil Rays

Edgy MD wrote: Many fine starting pitchers worked their way into the rotation having served their apprenticeship as the spot starter/mopup guy. It's got a proud history. I'm not sure what exactly you're contending. Sure. but that's few and far between. those are the exceptions. Goose Gossage was Hall of Famer. What i'm contending is that often the 7th guy in the bullpen sucks. Even if you're looking for a specific usage scenario, he's still going to suck. The guy that you don't want to pitch too many innings or is 'breaking in' is often going to just dive in. They either monitor the innings in the minors, or he's needed to make starts. fine line to find the usage case inbetween. And in a lot of these cases, they're best used in other ways. And no 'best usage' case ever works out anyway. You may want to try to get him in games, but you may get a week where starters pitch and it's all the high-leverage guys. Anyway, it's simple. Use the best relievers as much as possible. Walk the line between burning them out and under using them. (In our case, Parnell. more Parnell. Keep pitching Parnell. If it's Friday and you're off Monday and Parnell is rested, assume he's pitching every ninth inning as long as the Mets are within 4. ) And hell, the other guys? the one-offers? BURN THEM OUT. If Brandon Lyon is pitching well? Throw him out there until Brian Cashman is threatening to sue for overuse. Milk every last freaking quality inning out of the guys throwing well. Because sooner or later they'll suck again and you can rest them then.

I'll see what I have. I might have something but I fear most of my pictures are also low res, didn't get the better camera until 08 or so.

Edgy MD wrote: Having starters pitch fewer innings, and having relievers pitch fewer innings, screws you at two ends, leaving a mushy middle where lesser pitchers get a disproportionate share of high-leverage innings compared to prior years, to say nothing of a less versaitle roste.r Chances are a 'quality' reliever is going to get more innings pitching his specialized one inning than being held in reserve. You don't want to fall into the backup catcher scenario where you're afraid to use you're 7th reliever because tomorrow might go extras. Because then you have a 6-man pen and are overworking those guys. Sure, it'd be nice to have a guy that's okay going 5 innings in a pinch, but if you're using him an inning at a time, or two here and there, chances are either his arm strength isn't there to be effective for long relief, or he's been working extra on the side to maintain arm strength and is probably pitching most of the games you use him in, tired.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I remember when there were "long relievers" who might be able to go four or five innings in an extra-inning game. What ever happened to the Pat Mahomes or Tom Gormans of the world? Why do you now have to change pitchers every inning or two, even in an extra inning game? Because most of the time you _don't_ use those guys. Why carry the 25th man that's only pitching in blowouts or if the game happens to go 15? If he's good enough to use regularly, you're going to find him innings to pitch regularly, and if he's just eating space to save waste innings.. part of it's that it's hard to keep your arm strength up for 4-5 innings, healthily anyway, without actually pitching. People worry about over-extending pitchers these days, and the idea of having this sacrificial lamb has fallen by the wayside somewhat. I mean, Familia probably could've gone longer for instance. It's not like he's not accustomed in his career to doing so, but you're just not going to risk it with him.

metirish wrote: Interesting take Ceetar, no excuse for poor fundies if that was the case. It definitely wasn't. he caught it flat footed and took a step back to get to that spot, but he had take to take a couple more back and get ready to go forward, even just a step as he caught it might have been enough to get the ball to the plate on a hop at worst, hell, the 'edging back to throw' motion before the catch might have had Dobbs decide not to go.

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, Baxter can only be the best at what he is, and the throw it would have taken just isn't in his arsenal. The sad part is that it was a pretty impressive defensive game for the team. Even Duda was crackerjack. Even on a miscue, like when Turner threw to second on a bunt when neither Tejada nor Murphy were in position to take the force, Tejada kept his head and made the tag. I guess I also take issue with Juan F. Pierre running at will like he's Ron LeFlore or something. Can Baxter not be decent defensively? Does he have no arm? These aren't things I'm sure of. I am sure he fielded that fly ball poorly to make a throw. It wasn't that he didn't have the arm to do it, it's that he wasn't positioned to put his body behind it. There were a couple of other iffy postioning/awareness things later on, and I know Keith was getting exasperated with the defense on both sides. Marlins SS make a pretty pathetic attempt to get Murphy's slow roller through the left side.

Vic Sage wrote: FUCK YOU, KOEHLER ROCKS! sorry, i get carried away. we're not used to any sports accomplishments at SBU. his name is Koehler Rocks? that sounds like it's the name of a sink.

metirish wrote: It might well be true that Mets fans are embarrassing, the whining about the whining Mets fans is annoying too. That's why I stick to whining about the people whining about the Mets fans whining. it's recursive enough to just be confusing.

You don't get mugged when you're worried about getting mugged; that's when you get hit by a car. words to live by.

Swan Swan H wrote: Let's get the taste of that one out of our mouths right away. Hefner, hugh have to suck it up and go deep. and why not, we're not protecting Hefner for decades of Mets service, use him up and spit him out!

Zvon wrote: Fernandez batted for himself and yet is outta the game for the top of the 5th. Hmmm. standard minor league rules. Just wanted to get him a turn at bat.